Zoklet.net - Der Politik http://zoklet.net/bbs Politics: Left, Right, and Center! en Sun, 26 May 2013 07:16:31 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/images/clean_misc/rss.jpg Zoklet.net - Der Politik http://zoklet.net/bbs <![CDATA[The Great Collapse Will Never Come On It's Own]]> http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=274874&goto=newpost Fri, 24 May 2013 22:42:42 GMT A lot of us would like to believe that some day there will be an end to the government and we won't have to do anything. If it hasn't happened yet it won't. Pigs are still getting paid, people still get EBT. It's pretty much just inflation, but they are still getting it. Unless one of these things stop, this collapse we all dream of will not come without us doing something.

I don't think things will get any better, but without some of us taking action this collapse will never come. It's nice to think that it will without you having to do anything though. And there is a lot of opportunity for us to bring this on. No one is taking advantage of it though. ]]> Der Politik ACE_187 http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=274874 Bans on genetically modified food http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=274709&goto=newpost Thu, 23 May 2013 04:34:14 GMT What is the reason for country's like Hungary and Peru banning the growth of genetically modified food? There is little reason to doubt the safety of GMO's at this point in time so why is this the case? ]]> Der Politik FON http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=274709 crisis sparks ‘heartless’ culture in British males http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=274061&goto=newpost Thu, 16 May 2013 08:34:20 GMT The biased media is putting another outrageous spin on reality to suite their agenda: ---Quote--- UK men are in the grip of a ‘crisis of... The biased media is putting another outrageous spin on reality to suite their agenda:

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UK men are in the grip of a ‘crisis of masculinity’ fueled by boozing and consumerism amid the financial crisis, warns one MP. Pornography and ‘hyper-masculinity’ are propagating a ‘Viagra and Jack Daniels’ culture and the normalization of misogyny.

Labor Party MP Diane Abbott will speak out against the degradation of male values in modern Britain in a speech to a UK think tank on Thursday. Warning of a ‘celebration of heartlessness’ among British adolescent men, Abbot will signal that unemployment and economic woes is driving a wave of misogyny and disrespect towards women.

"At its worst, it's a celebration of heartlessness; a lack of respect for women's autonomy; and the normalization of homophobia. I fear it's often crude individualism dressed up as modern manhood," she will say.

Likening the phenomenon to the American film ‘Fight Club,’ she will say “the first rule of being a man in modern Britain is that you're not allowed to talk about it.”

Faced with minimal employment prospects, many young British men are forced to return home after finishing their university degrees. This in turn leads to a stagnation of their development, locking them into a family life that they resent. Abbott also mentions the grown men who are working longer hours, dying of curable cancers and taking their own lives.

As well as the current economic climate in the UK, Abbott signals that pornography and a culture of ‘hyper-masculinity’ create an ideal of manhood that is impossible to aspire to and fundamentally detrimental.

“Normal sex seems boring,” the MP will argue, blaming an overly- ‘pornified’ culture.

"Growing numbers of men of all ages [are] turning to the drug by themselves due to performance anxiety, triggered by a host of psychological issues.”

In response to this new generation of heartless men, the MP is expected to suggest number of measures to encourage young males to open up and talk about their emotions. Labor policy will call on schools to present their pupils with a broader interpretation of masculinity and urge parents to speak to their sons on the subjects of manhood and fatherhood.

Slow progress

The outlook for Britain’s flagging economy is looking dour as the government reported an increase in unemployment for the first quarter of the year on Wednesday. The increase of 15,000 more unemployed has pushed the jobless rate in the UK from 7.7 per cent to 7.8 per cent.

The figures were called ‘disappointing’ by Employment Minister Mark Hoban. They contrast recent statistics that show the gradual recovery of the UK economy from the financial crisis.
http://rt.com/news/culture-men-crisis-uk-304/



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Labor Party MP Diane Abbott will speak out against the degradation of male values in modern Britain. Warning of a ‘celebration of heartlessness’ among British adolescent men, Abbot will signal that unemployment and economic woes is driving a wave of misogyny and disrespect towards women.

"At its worst, it's a celebration of heartlessness; a lack of respect for women's autonomy; and the normalization of homophobia."
Looks like the progressive left is finally being forced to deal with the social effects of all that muslim immigration they let in. This has been a long time coming. They need all these low income people for the votes, but ironically the Islamic social values are the complete diametric opposite to the progressive humanist social values held by the left.

I guess we will finally find out just how effective social engineering actually is, whether progressives can really change the culture and criminal propensities of a group of ethnic minorities.


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The normalization of misogyny
Well honestly, what did they expect? Labor has been repeatedly warned about this, but instead of heeding the warning they just accused anyone who dared speak up of Islamophobia. This is not just in the UK either, it is also the happening in the Netherlands.


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I fear it's often crude individualism dressed up as modern manhood," she will say.
Oh, so Labor is trying to blame conservative values for the problems they are responsible for? :roflol:
The left has been the one shielding this negative minority culture from open criticism.


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Faced with minimal employment prospects, many young British men are forced to return home after finishing their university degrees. This in turn leads to a stagnation of their development, locking them into a family life that they resent.
Hmmm, hoards of people trapped in poverty? High unemployment? No one could have seen that coming.
The solution must be more immigration, we have to keep our economy "competitive" after all. :facepalm:


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In response to this new generation of heartless men, the MP is expected to suggest number of measures to encourage young males to open up and talk about their emotions. Labor policy will call on schools to present their pupils with a broader interpretation of masculinity
:rolleyes: Translation: The progressive public education system is going to try to neuter and emasculate another generation of little boys. ]]> Der Politik Anders Hoveland http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=274061 Why Communist China can never be given any respect or credence as a country http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=274024&goto=newpost Thu, 16 May 2013 00:15:02 GMT I'll do this one briefly and to the point:

1. Hong Kong. Hong Kong was built in to a major economic hub and modernised extensively. China never had the same happen even though they had significantly more resources.

2. Japan. Japan was at war with China in WW2. America and the Pacific allies destroyed Japan and forced their surrender, liberating China, specifically Manchuria. There was eradication of Japanese military and paramilitary forces in Japan, and occupation by the USA. Communist China became communist and attacked US allies in Korea and attempted genocide on the Korean people. Eventually, with Japan assuredly being free from influence of those who were ruling in the Imperial Japanese days, they were allowed to again have an armed deterrant and participated in the Korean war. China still indoctrinates their people that Japan is evil and must be destroyed, inciting feelings of genocide amongst their people towards the Japanese, even though the ruling groups from the Imperial Japanese days have been eradicated. They use the excuse of WW2 to incite these feelings. These are not feelings of cultural hurt as are seen elsewhere, they are advocating genocide of the Japanese people, posturing their military towards being able to attack Japan and producing media entertainment where Japan is the military enemy. They also have military air and naval incursions towards Japan in an extremely threatening manner. This is all bullshit and communist rhetoric. Japan was subdued and is now allied with the world. China is communist and using excuses to try and start wars. They hate their American liberators who freed Manchuria. They thought with their vast manpower resources they could conquer the world. However, they have substandard technology.

3. Taiwan. PRC constantly threatens Taiwan and wants to make it part of Communist China. The Taiwanese fled the communists when they had their revolution and created death camps that killed tens of millions of people under Mao Tse Dong. The Taiwanese came under the US protective umbrella, and were grateful the Americans liberated Manchuria and forces regime change in Imperial Japan. Taiwan is very closely aligned with Modern Japan. Hitler is not in power in Germany anymore, and we all love the German exchange student. Times have changed. Hitler is dead and no longer calling the shots.

Essentially, PRC are communist, genocidal, murderous scum who skew history and propaganda to try and indoctrinate their people to be prepared to wage genocide on the Japanese. ]]> Der Politik tuer502gt http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=274024 potential for government abuse of approvals http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=274020&goto=newpost Wed, 15 May 2013 22:56:19 GMT The problem with the government requiring licenses, or certifying statuses, is that these bureaucratic powers potentially can illegally abuse this... The problem with the government requiring licenses, or certifying statuses, is that these bureaucratic powers potentially can illegally abuse this power, or discriminate against political groups or individuals they do not like. And there is no gurantee that the government departments in charge of issuing the licenses or statuses will ever be required to comply with the law or punished. Meanwhile, private organizations and individuals will still be punished if they try do something they have no license for, even if they have the legal right to get such a license.

This may seem rather vauge so I will give some specific examples. Licenses to carry a gun. Tax exemption status. Government certification before a business is allowed to engage in a certain type of business activity. In some countries, permission from police or the city to have an organized protest march.

Making new laws that require more licenses for things we never had to have a license for before just gives government departments and bureaucrats more administrative power that they have the potential to abuse.

I think the best approach is the conventional court system, to fine and punish people after they have done something wrong, instead of requiring government pre-approval for everything. This is not to say there cannot also be government approval for things that would excuse people and businesses from future legal liability. Sometimes people may not be entirely sure if a certain action may actually be illegal when there are ambiguously worded laws. But these people should not have to obtain pre-approval from some goverment bureaucrat.

If someone breaks the law for doing something without a permit, they should not be punished if they had tried to get a permit before but the government refused to give them one, even though the law says that the government department was required to issue one.

The selective enforcement of the law can be much more important than what the actual laws actually are. ]]> Der Politik Anders Hoveland http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=274020 Subservient and subordinate nations in regards to countries with a western economy http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=273537&goto=newpost Sat, 11 May 2013 01:24:59 GMT Countries personified. It is often argued that the USA is the global sheriff meddling and interfering in world events to further their own... Countries personified.

It is often argued that the USA is the global sheriff meddling and interfering in world events to further their own private, clandestine individual agenda.

This is far from the truth.

The issue is not as black and white as it would appear, with the USA vying for global dominance.

The history of what is argued as US global interference began in earnest after WW2, and began due to communist military aggression.

At the close of the second world war, Germany was partitioned. The former ally against Nazi Germany in that war, the Soviet Union, was decided to be an unfriendly nation and Germany was divided in to sectors of influence, the western economic influential powers had put, in terms of early post war governance, sectors under the control of the USA, Britain and France. What was later known as East Germany was part of the Russian sector and under communist control.

The Russian propaganda machine and their sympathisers in the west painted these events as detached from reality.

East Germany, and in fact many communist nations, were exposed to the horrors of death camps and concentration camps, essentially identical to what was seen in Nazi Germany.

There were food shortages, power shortages and if you spoke out against the government in any way, you were liable to be executed for this. This still has not changed, with journalists who speak out against Putin's regime in Russia still getting imprisoned and killed for attempts to expose corruption and human rights abuses. Essentially the people were forced to suffer because the communists wanted to militarise and spent all their resources on this. There were not just persecutions, there were famines.

This also happens in Communist China today, in regards to such spiritual movements as Falun Gong. These people, who express a religious affiliation separate from government approved religion, are put in to mental asylums or concentration camps and liable to be executed.

Communist government law in China states that any attempt to disrupt order by speaking out against the government can have you executed for crimes against the party.

But once again, in the West, we have communist and Russian sympathisers who are loyal to those regimes and express hatred of the western system.

It would be interesting to note that Vladimir Putin was a KGB officer based in East Germany and is now the Russian president. He would be heavily indoctrinated and tasked with disseminating communist propaganda.

He is now the ruler of that country. He personally, as well as the country as a whole, is friends with governments of countries such as Communist China and Iran.

Russia, and the KGB, has a history of supporting communist terrorist groups and others throughout the world. This includes the PLO and the IRA, as well as others such as FARC and ETA. Through their support of Iran they also support Hizbollah.

These groups all have a common thread of hating Israel, which is Nazi in nature.

Russia was desperate for Nazi scientists after the second world war as part of their efforts to enable them to wage war upon the west and enslave the world, and Nazi military leaders obtained asylum in the Soviet Union as well as Middle Eastern and South American countries that were aligned with the Soviets.

If we look at today, many people will complain that the USA is trying to turn the whole world American and impose American cultural values upon the rest of the planet.

This is far removed from the truth.

You are not compelled to enjoy "western" music or be mainstream at all.

It is just that it is simple and enjoyable.

A digitally synthesized song is often more pleasing to the ear than that of a ukelele or similar antiquated musical instrument. With digital editing, the human voice can sound much more soothing and achieve a music flow that is impossible without modern technology.

This is not imposing American values upon the world. People generally strive for what is most pleasing, simple and enjoyable for them to live their lives.

People can, will and do complain that American culinary influences, as well as social activities are destroying the established cultures in other countries.

These people fail to take note that freedom of religious expression is enshrined in the US Constitution.

It is also interesting to take note of culinary advancements.

Spicy food originated because there was no way to preserve fresh foods apart from drying, salting and pickling the produce.

The spice would hide the tastes of rotten, or otherwise fermented foods.

By introducing refrigeration, and modern cooking methods such as the hotplate, people are able to enjoy 'bland' foods because they are able to be enjoyed fresh.

All western nations experienced this culinary revolution with the advent of electricity and refrigeration.

It is not an attack on cultural institutions.

Life expectancy is now higher.

People can still enjoy traditional food, music and living standards if they desire, however, due to comfort issues such as convenience and health, most people will do this on special occasions.

These people can, do and still will practice traditional cultural and religious activities such as celebrations and festivals as well as dress according to their culture and belief systems.

However, America is still painted as the "Great Satan".

I propose that this is because the USA has the greatest overt military capacity. And the communists, and their militant supporters in western countries, aware of this, use their propaganda techniques to try and shun and isolate the USA in an attempt to destroy the western world.

It should be noted that NATO would be significantly weakened without the presence of the USA, which would have made it easier for the Soviet Union to conquer western Europe.

If the social masses in western Europe had collectively turned on the USA and the NATO alliance, as was intended by the Soviet Union and their supporters, and NATO was dissolved, the Soviet Union and communism may have been allowed to thrive in Europe as there would be less of military deterrent. History has shown that communism is brought about in countries with measures of extreme violence.

There was much turmoil in South America due to Soviet and Communist Chinese support of terrorist groups such as FARC and Shining Path. They are not peaceful. They are closed groups with extreme measures of propaganda that portray themselves as humble farmers expressing pain and discontent at the lives of the working man. In actual fact, any one who questions them and the inconsistencies they raise, is liable for kidnapping and execution, very similar to the current day systems in Russia and Communist China.

Focusing on the Middle East, Israel is portrayed as the enemy because of religion. It is because they are aligned with western nations, and no other reason. Countries opposed to Israel throughout the Cold War, including post revolutionary Iran, Iraq, Syria and others, were closely aligned with the Soviet Union and communism expressly forbids religious worship and has a state policy of atheism. It should be noted that the people are largely unaware of the herecy and intolerance their governments express, and their militaries are Soviet in structure and utilise communist weaponry and technology.

Once again, America is portrayed as a global war monger and power hungry beast.

This is far removed from fact.

The United States does not impose puppet regimes like what the communists do.

Israel is not a puppet regime. Israel has indigenous defence industries and technology, and freely trades with the USA and other countries where they have shortfalls in development.

They have made public statements and policy directives that go counter to the plan of the USA, due to their independence and right of self determination.

The reason they are so closely aligned to the USA is not because they are a puppet state, or for oil, it is because many surrounding nations want them destroyed in cohorts with communist regimes.

America has highly advanced military technology and capabilities. This is a deterrent to nations that have designs on harming Israel, and these countries, with the Nazi-like attitudes, hate the nation state of Israel.

In this sense, the United States of America is a subservient nation to that of Israel, providing them with aid when required, and not controlling the day to day running of the country as is so common when a country becomes allied with that of a communist nation.

These arguments are also applied in Asia, particularly to countries such as South Korea, Japan and Taiwan.

They are portrayed by "open minded individuals" and communist state official media outlets as puppet regimes where the people are oppressed by the USA.

This is a lie.

There are no travel restrictions placed on people living in western aligned nations. They are free to go visit any country, and people in South Korea, Japan and Taiwan do so. They are free to settle in any country.

Due to the prosperity of these countries, which most likely is due to the effect of being aligned with a nation such as the USA which encourages personal prosperity, the people there are generally quite successful.

In any rate, even if they were not prosperous individuals, they would be able to save up for an airfare which would not be extreme considering the distances involved, and if they wanted to migrate to these countries, six months wages working at minimum wage would guarantee them prosperity in these countries when you look at the GDP and living expenses in the countries calling them members of a puppet regime.

They would be able to set themselves up comfortably until they were able to find work, due to the spending parity alone.

However, would this be considered ethical, as the rest of the people living in these states live in abject fear of the government and what would be considered poverty by our standards? They are also not allowed free travel overseas.

Most Chinese mainlanders you meet as migrants or students are very well off in their homes. They even have their parents send them money whilst living here.

This is likely due to the fact their families are party faithful or military officers.

In essence, they are likely supporters of the communist government in some type of semi official capacity, and support their actions regarding Falun Gong death camps. If they weren't they would not be allowed to leave. They are clearly briefed before they get here on what to say and what not to say and what opinions to hold.

In western nations you are free to dissent and criticise the government. When you start getting involved in political subversion supporting terrorism or hostile nations only then do you get the attention of the authorities and start facing the consequences.

Are you aware of the propaganda? Or do you believe everything they provide you with and that America is evil?

America is a subservient nation to those nations that house people trying to avoid persecution and torment.

Nations such as Japan, Taiwan and South Korea are not puppet states.

That is convenient propaganda for the communists who call for them to be annihilated and destroyed militarily, much like what has happened to Israel for so long. ]]> Der Politik tuer502gt http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=273537 So Benghazi Is Finally Coming Out http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=273259&goto=newpost Tue, 07 May 2013 22:35:02 GMT Thought I would post about this here since I always get shit from Obama supporters. Check out my two threads that I made in "It's A Conspiracy!"

http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=261674
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=259330

Basically, if you haven't been following this situation, Benghazi was covered up to give Obama a better chance of being re-elected. It is now falling apart.

Congressional hearing tomorrow.

http://michellemalkin.com/2013/05/05...ional-hearing/

Discuss.

[ ]]> Der Politik TotseNative http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=273259 Picture rights http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=273251&goto=newpost Tue, 07 May 2013 20:32:29 GMT When using a picture if there are rights on it, you cannot use that picture to benefit you. Say you find a picture of a frog on the Internet, and... When using a picture if there are rights on it, you cannot use that picture to benefit you.

Say you find a picture of a frog on the Internet, and you want to use it on your candy bar wrappers for your chocolate business. That is illegal, unless you obtain the rights to that picture.

If you alter the picture slightly, do you bypass this?

I just learned this the other day and forgot. ]]> Der Politik SquattingBear http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=273251 Send Support To Golden Dawn Social Solidarity And Get A T-Shirt http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=273229&goto=newpost Tue, 07 May 2013 13:44:02 GMT Image: http://xaameriki.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/3714e8eecb3eeef2193b63dbd4e13f860c33e81fc814dfaa375d5045.jpg?w=627 ---Quote--- The American...
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The American chapters of Golden Dawn have been inundated with requests asking how to support us and how to get tshirts. We are greatly moved by the generosity offered by Greeks and even non-Greek brothers and sisters who are supporters of Golden Dawn’s excellent humanitarian work.
http://xaameriki.wordpress.com/2013/...get-a-t-shirt/ ]]> Der Politik Ironclad http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=273229