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Old 10-09-2009, 01:04 AM
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So can anyone recommend any 100% cotton paper?

I'm sick and tired of getting dirty looks when the cashier holds my fake 5, but they still take them and give me my change.

Someone said above that Axe (or linx) could make it feel like a normal bill, but wouldn't it fucking reek of Axe? Lol?
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24lb seems a bit heavy...
and I heard somewhere that Southworth watermarks ALL OVER their fucking paper.

point me or PM me the link to the forum, I wanna read it.
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they say the british pound is the hardest mother fucker to fake, but i beg to differ, i mean my fukin hpdeskjet d4260 which cost like £20 made a pretty convincible note(to my gran), i cant imagine what a £200 printer would print like... can anyone recommend a printer in the range of £100-£200 that will print nice british bills+no hassles+simples??? i have the metallic strip covered...i just use metallic heat transfer foils which do the trick quite nicely, not fukd about watermark casue no one checks, and i have paper sourced....
Please go into more detail (pics if possible). I've never had counterfeiting down as my speciality nor highest interests, but now you have my interest since there's some other brits on here who have done it. Get an alps 5000, seriously, they're fucking brilliant printers.

US currency was easy as hell if you can get old templates. I can take care of the watermarking easily. It's vitalto make the best fakes you can, they have blacklights at most bars now and a couple of stores. Obviously passing them at a bar is one of the worst things you can do, it's ideal to get them laundered or get them laundered by getting change. You know what I'm getting at though.
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You know what I'm getting at though.
No i really dont...and slim, will you explain how to do the bleaching method? Thanks man
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Old 10-09-2009, 10:27 PM
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Actually the topic of bleaching has been beat to death on the Bombshock Counterfeiting forum.
The solution stated above was said by MANY to not work at all.

Many Senior members on Bombshock (I still need to try it) have said that lye will remove the ink, and they have posted pictures of before and after with the watermark of a $5 but a face and back of a $20.

Here's how to remove ink from ALL bills in the US.
It involves lye (potassium/sodium hydroxide, a highly corrosive material that can and will give you serious chemical burns.

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3 Tablespoons of lye
2 quarts of water
A tooth brush

Let the bill soak in the water and lye for 30minutes or so. After it's soaked, move it to a hot water bath and gently wipe it with the tip of the brush. It's comes off perfectly. There's a small amount of left-over ink, but printing the new face will cover that up. Use $5's.

Make sure the bill goes in all at once and straight. If it enters the solution uneven, part of the bill will be deformed.

As for printing, you can either scan a bill into photoshop and use that to print onto the bill or just directly copy it onto the new bill.
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If you want the thread, PM me. Or just go to bombshock forums and look around for the counterfeiting forum and check blanking or something by 123shadow123.

And I've attributed the aligning problem with my printer to be GIMP. I dl'ed Photoshop CS4 Extended and did all my dirty work with that. Btw, Photoshop is fucking awemazing (never used it before, always thought it was hyped). For anyone flipping out that their scans of the money wont load in Ps: Scan it straight in Ps. It only works on the bills without a EURion constellation tho.

Also when printing on blanked bills, I would simply print out the bill on normal paper, then use double sided sticky tape to align the blank onto the bill printed on the normal paper. Print and repeat for other side.

When I finally get around to getting some lye I will be printing twenties over ones and fives (only using blanked ones with people who aren't cashiers/tellers, they would check the security things.)

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Where are u gonna get your lye from? Im gonna do this. Ok so bleach is not going to work right?
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Bleach has been confirmed to weaken the bill and possibly tear it up with very little force.

I read somewhere that Rootg's 100% Lye can be bought at Ace hardware.
I'll just steal it tho, lol. It's like $5 for a pound (LOTS OF MONEY TO BE MADE)
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Bleach has been confirmed to weaken the bill and possibly tear it up with very little force.

I read somewhere that Rootg's 100% Lye can be bought at Ace hardware.
I'll just steal it tho, lol. It's like $5 for a pound (LOTS OF MONEY TO BE MADE)
ok if i get a chance this weekend ill try to get over to Ace and get some of that.
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You're 13 GTFO.
stop trolling. ok back to the topic...has anybody actually ever made good looking counterfit bills? if so, post pics
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Bump. Hopefully fannyfart will answer this time.
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Old 10-18-2009, 02:33 AM
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Can anyone confirm products with lye? I can't find any, but I haven't gone to Ace yet.
Dollar General has cheap $1 bottle of drain opener with sodium hydroxide (lye) and bleach. Would that work?
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Please go into more detail (pics if possible). I've never had counterfeiting down as my speciality nor highest interests, but now you have my interest since there's some other brits on here who have done it. Get an alps 5000, seriously, they're fucking brilliant printers.

US currency was easy as hell if you can get old templates. I can take care of the watermarking easily. It's vitalto make the best fakes you can, they have blacklights at most bars now and a couple of stores. Obviously passing them at a bar is one of the worst things you can do, it's ideal to get them laundered or get them laundered by getting change. You know what I'm getting at though.
Most charity related places, like dog adoptions/cat adoptions, human related events may have sales, rummage sales, junk like that. Show up and purchase garbage with your large bills (IE $20 of stuff but all you have is a "50" etc and then get the actual currency. Won't matter in the slightest since you are technically "losing" $20 and gaining $30, but it's $30 in real currency.

Seems like a good idea to me, launder the fake currency at these places (especially if outdoors, less likely to have the blacklights and stuff) and off you go!

the common device i've seen is made by the company called "fake finder/fake finder products" i'm sure you can find it in google

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so what is the best method for counterfeiting?
bleac/lye (sodium hydroxide)
or
making from scratch?
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sodium hydroxide
i posted the guide earlier from the bombshock forums.
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I can confirm that the lye method of bleaching works, learned it from somebody on the old revelations29x site.

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I can confirm that the lye method of bleaching works, learned it from somebody on the old revelations29x site.
Whered u get your lye from
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So my Ace was out of rooto lye (crystals).

I picked up a bottle of Drano Max Gel.
MSDS says that pH is 11-13.
Purple Power (MSDS)(confirmed to work) Degreaser is only pH10-11. So I'm trying out Drano on a dollar.
will post pics, moar to come.

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So my Ace was out of rooto lye (crystals).

I picked up a bottle of Drano Max Gel.
MSDS says that pH is 11-13.
Purple Power (MSDS)(confirmed to work) Degreaser is only pH10-11. So I'm trying out Drano on a dollar.
will post pics, moar to come.
work on those bills yet, invader?
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Didn't work. Didn't do jack shit (msds for drano gel says 5% lye) on a $1 bill. Not risking a $5 bill, that's what the drano cost (lol).
Real mixture from the bombshock forum is around 2.4% lye and 97.6% water.
I guess the drano's bleach (sodium hypoclorite) counteracted the lye, dunno what else would have stopped it.

I'll check in tomorrow at Ace and see if they have it (stocking at my ace is horrible, possibly they'll put it on the shelf.) I know my Ace sells it, there was a spot for it on the shelf.
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Didn't work. Didn't do jack shit (msds for drano gel says 5% lye) on a $1 bill. Not risking a $5 bill, that's what the drano cost (lol).
Real mixture from the bombshock forum is around 2.4% lye and 97.6% water.
I guess the drano's bleach (sodium hypoclorite) counteracted the lye, dunno what else would have stopped it.

I'll check in tomorrow at Ace and see if they have it (stocking at my ace is horrible, possibly they'll put it on the shelf.) I know my Ace sells it, there was a spot for it on the shelf.
wait whats the name of the shit youre buying? would be cool if you posted a link too...
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Rooto 100% Crystals of Lye Household Drain opener.
It's the replacement of the Red Devil brand used for soapmaking (also labeled as a drain opener, but was always used for soap until the discontinuing in 2006.)
For anyone that has a soapmaking shop by them, you could get this cheaper or in smaller amounts. You only need about 1/6 pound or 2 ounces to make 1 bath to wash bills in.

Math: 6 baths out of 1 pound. $5 for that pound. Around 84 cents a bath.
Let's say you only use $5 bills and print $20 bills to be less suspicious. I am personally going wash 5 bills at a time. That's $74.16 profit (5 $5bills with $20 printed, is $100 in the end but you used $25 from the original bills.)
To go even more on the cheap, wash more fives at a time. I don't have a lot to start with (at the moment I have $10 to my name.) but once you get going it's easy to multiply.


Link:Amazon link $3.99 w/o shipping
Ace hardware wants five or six bucks for a pound.

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explain the process you plan on using to bleach the ink and shit out of the bill...like be as DETAILED AS POSSIBLE
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i will once i try it.
no use posting info that doesn't work.

again, i'll be using shetlan's method (bombshock) that i posted in post 209.

i will also be uploading pictures of every step.

keep in mind, i'm a teenager with a peeping mom (lol, tom mom). i'll have to find a day or night that i'm free and either mom's gone or i'm at a friends doing it. she will prolly barge in and call the secret service on me from the bubbling noise from the lye.

i also am thinking of using the abandoned barn behind my house as my temporary station, don't want my carpet etc melted from boiling lye.
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i will once i try it.
no use posting info that doesn't work.

again, i'll be using shetlan's method (bombshock) that i posted in post 209.

i will also be uploading pictures of every step.

keep in mind, i'm a teenager with a peeping mom (lol, tom mom). i'll have to find a day or night that i'm free and either mom's gone or i'm at a friends doing it. she will prolly barge in and call the secret service on me from the bubbling noise from the lye.

i also am thinking of using the abandoned barn behind my house as my temporary station, don't want my carpet etc melted from boiling lye.
Excellent stuff. Looking forward to it.
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yea im really looking foward to this man...so no clue when this will be?:
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Within the next week, possibly.
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hi any one got any idears on how to print the £20 british notes and were i could get the holograms from to stick on chears
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Please go into more detail (pics if possible). I've never had counterfeiting down as my speciality nor highest interests, but now you have my interest since there's some other brits on here who have done it. Get an alps 5000, seriously, they're fucking brilliant printers.
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If you're not even capable of finding lye in a supermarket you definitely aren't nearly as qualified or intelligent to counterfeit shit.
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Within the next week, possibly.
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I just came across a shitload of crisp clean and unblemished 1980's bills, ones fives tens twenties fifties and hundreds. If I was to scan these and print on rag paper, would they pass a pen test?

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Hmm... There's still not much to be found about conterfeiting Australian notes.

I have been thinking about how it could be done. I have no thoughts for the material, but the window could be replicated with some sort of clear sticky plastic. If you know the stuff you used to coat your text books back in high school, that seems like it might do the trick.

I'll do some research on some type of paper etc that feels as much like the note as possible.

Ideas?
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something of interest, maybe for the brits on here, an old £10 note went out of circulation a couple of years ago(well like ten years ago or sumat), the note has the exact same dimensions as the £10 note used today,has the queen on etc,it looks quite similar, except it is missing a hologram and the written ten appears to be different....obviously the watermark is on it etc etc, another difference is the back of the note depicting charles dickens instead of charles darwin, but who notices that shite anyway...

the thing is, this note is readily available on the internet for £5 and under(including shipping costs), so passing it off should get you another £5 cash back for each bill, i don't see it being illegal because its not counterfeiting , its a real note...the cashier either accepts it or he doesnt without any bother...just look stunned, as usual, if asked.

take a look at the note in circulation today and the one ten years ago,

heres the links,

new note: http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/mo...ounds-1913.jpg


old note:http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...a%3DN%26um%3D1


dont forget the dimensions are exact the same... i reckon nightclubs would work well with these outdated notes

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something of interest, maybe for the brits on here, an old £10 note went out of circulation a couple of years ago(well like ten years ago or sumat), the note has the exact same dimensions as the note used today,has the queen on etc,it looks quite similar, except it is missing a hologram and the written ten appears to be different....obviously the watermark is on it etc etc, another difference is the back of the note depicting charles dickens instead of charles darwin, but who notices that shite anyway...

the thing is, this note is readily available on the internet for £5 and under, so passing it off should get you £5 cash back, i dont see it being illegal because its not counterfeiting , its a real note...the cashier either accepts it or he doesnt without any bother...

take a look at the note in circulation today and the one ten years ago,

heres the links,

new note: http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/mo...ounds-1913.jpg


old note:http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...a%3DN%26um%3D1


dont forget the dimensions are exact the same... i reckon nightclubs would work well with these outdated notes

or maybe bleaching the bill completely, and reprinting the new bill on, with some hologram foil on, you lose £5 automatically...dont forget, but at least you have the right paper and a genuine watermark

so you would profit about £4 or so off each bill...
pass 20 per day=£80
140 notes per week=£560
1 year=£29120 pounds sterling,very nice indeed


Just qouted myself,iam not insane just made a mistake.lol

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if SWIM were to make counteirfeit money with rag paper of 100% cotton would the product be undetectable by the iodine pens that test 4 cellulose?
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!!!BLEACHING DOES NOT WORK!!!

it makes the bill weaker and more susceptible to tearing.

use lye instead.

lye is made of sodium hydroxide and/or potassium hydroxide depending on what kind you get.

both are very harmful to skin and clothing and can cause extreme bodily harm if misused, take caution when using lye to counterfeit bills.
you can order it online if you want the good stuff or you can check out your local hardware store or home depot/lowes to see if they sell it. honestly you would be better off getting something online though:
http://www.organic-creations.com/ser...-sodium/Detail
this should work well for any counterfeiting that youre working on....have $5 in singles to experiment with. getting the bill down to the blank paper is the hard part. immerse it in the lye solution(may need to tone down the lye with lots of water depending on what kind you get...it comes in different strengths from my understanding.) and then let it sit there completely underwater for awhile, then take it out, dry, then use previously stated methods to print onto it.

hope this helps somebody.
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My HP deskjet f2430 printed out a $5 note on my first try... flawless.. I'm fucking freaked. I put it next to a real $5, flip 'em around.. and when I look, I can't tell which one is the real one right off the bat. I have to touch it for a sec.

This is by far the creepiest shit ever. How easy....
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