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Old 12-15-2009, 07:01 PM
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Default Are discontinuous functions always rational functions?

Are all equations of functions which represent lines that have breaks in them fractions like 1/x or (2x^2 + 4)/(x + 5) ?
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: Are discontinuous functions always rational functions?

I think so.

I mean to have a discontinuous graph x needs to be a value that makes the equation algebraically invalid, but also needs to have valid values either side of it. A rational function is the only thing I can think of that satisfies such a condition (ie it can below 0 or above 0 but it can't be 0).

I might hassle function zero this, he's a dirty pure mathser he might know..
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: Are discontinuous functions always rational functions?

No.

For instance, there's the heavyside function, u(x)
Or the impulse function...
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Old 12-16-2009, 02:42 AM
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Post Re: Are discontinuous functions always rational functions?

Pretty much any time you can divide by zero, you'll get a discontinuity. Some examples of discontinuous trig functions are tangent, cotangent, secant, and cosecant. If you put them in terms of sine and cosine, you can see that you're dividing by sin(x) or cos(x), which can result in divide by zero.

Piecewise functions are combinations of two different functions over different ranges, and can very easily be discontinuous. According to Wikipedia, this is usually a jump discontinuity.

If you're looking for a vertical asymptote with a piecewise function, you can try something like log(x) for x>0, log(-x) for x<0.

Um... an exponential function with a negative number as a base has infinitely many removable discontinuities. For example, f(x) = (-5)^x has infinitely many discontinuities. Like, (-5)^ (1/3) is the cube root, which has a real answer (along with two imaginary answers), and (-5)^(1/2) is the square root, which has no real answers. Whenever there's no real answer, there's a gap in the graph. So for rational values of x (those that can be written as a division of two integers, i.e. a fraction), the ones with even denominators will have no real roots, while those with odd denominators will have one real root. I don't know what happens when x is irrational.

The gamma function is another one with infinitely many discontinuities (with vertical asymptotes). You can think of it as an extension of the factorial function to real numbers (which includes non-integers). The difference from my previous example is that it the gamma function is piece-wise continuous, so to speak. It is only discontinuous at each negative integer and zero, so you can break it into a piecewise function. With (-5)^x, on the other hand, no matter how small of a range of x values you pick, you'll find infinitely many discontinuities in that range.
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Default Re: Are discontinuous functions always rational functions?

Anything that was worth contributing was covered by Clarphimous above.

Rational functions can be discontinuous (but not necessarily), conversely however discontinuous functions could be piecewise.
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Default Re: Are discontinuous functions always rational functions?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaviside_step_function

Here's an example of non-rational function that has a discontinuity at x = 0. (thanks to Function Zero for bringing it to my attention).
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