Need for Speed: Shift fucking sucks donkey penis

[rider]

You know how there's always that asshole who thinks he's the best at everything but in reality fucking sucks? That's what Shift is.

I got it so that I could have a street racing game. If I wanted a fucking track racing game, I would buy Forza. The whole point of a need for speed game is that it's unrealistic. When it tries to take itself seriously it just ends up shooting itself in the foot.

I don't mind the SERIOUSLY unrealistic tuning. I don't mind the annoying narrator. But for fucks sake, if you're going to make a track racing game, make it fucking realistic, not some watered-down piece of shit where a bodykit can make your car go faster and handle better.

/rant.

[Mullen]

The NFS series died with MCO.

[Arcade]

Originally Posted by Mullen

The NFS series died after underground

fixage

[33% God]

Originally Posted by Mullen

The NFS series died with MCO.

I enjoyed Most Wanted

[Mullen]

Originally Posted by 33% God

I enjoyed Most Wanted

I kind of did for a while after it came out.. I still think MCO was the pinnacle though.

[Trix Are For Kids]

Arcade-style racing FTW. Carbon was my favorite. Arcade style+cool graphics = win.

[Σnigma]

Underground 2 was my favorite. The unrealism was funny, especially when you could put a massive sound system in your car that just happened to not weigh anything.

[Anima Mundi]

I'll stick to double dash.

[Mantikore]

the only one i liked was NFS2

[Hamza]

Go grab Burnout Paradise, who plays Need for Speed anymore?

[BastardLunatic]

I liked all that was up to Carbon. After that it started sucking.
But yeah, Burnout is awesome game, go play that.
Wish I could.
Crappy laptop

[pimpstrocity]

OP.. this post is a greater reflection on how worthless your life is then how good of a game NFS is.

[ilovechronic]

Originally Posted by rider

I don't mind the SERIOUSLY unrealistic tuning. I don't mind the annoying narrator. But for fucks sake, if you're going to make a track racing game, make it fucking realistic, not some watered-down piece of shit where a bodykit can make your car go faster and handle better.

/rant.

a body kit could theorectically slow a car down if it is heavier or produces alot of drag.

[harry_hardcore_hoedown]

'Super Mario Kart' is the best.

[face_smack360]

Originally Posted by harry_hardcore_hoedown

'Super Mario Kart' is the best.

So is a mild case of AIDS.

[harry_hardcore_hoedown]

Originally Posted by face_smack360

So is a mild case of AIDS.

Are you equating the greatest video game of all time to AIDS?

[face_smack360]

Originally Posted by harry_hardcore_hoedown

Are you equating the greatest video game of all time to AIDS?

Maybe

[sdmf_from_hell]

i think the whole street racing thing has died down because everybody is finding out its actually gay.

(Yes, i'm talking to you rat tailed youth driving the eXcel with neons and shitty homemade bonnet inlet)

Real racing is much more interesting, fun, cool, exciting, jaw dropping, skill testing etc etc and personally i liked this game. (it was a great void filler before Forza3 came out).

I like arcade racers, but not when they're based on a culture that is so very very try hard (See Tokyo Drift).

I agree with the way NFS has gone, it's actually fun again.. it's still very 'arcadey' but so over the top while keeping a true fundamental 'in the race' feel.

I said it before; Shift is what Grid should have been.

InB4 'OMG my brothers mate's skyline can kick your ass, pussy"

[Mankonaut X]

Did anyone buy ProStreet?

[sdmf_from_hell]

Originally Posted by Mankonaut X

Did anyone buy ProStreet?

I didn't but a mate has it, first i thought it completely sucked (which essentially it does).

But when we were drinking one night we threw it on and i had a blast. It was because my expectations of it were already rock bottom, but i'm a sucker for racing games and found a quite fun aspect in it. (the voice and shitty music was muted in the menus)

This is only in multiplayer mind you.

[Township Rebellion]

There's a void in racing games today, the "road racer". The early Need for Speed games were all about driving the worlds best cars irresponsibly down the worlds most exotic roads. It was about the drive itself, it was about the insane competition, it was about the thrill of driving.

To me, the culmination - the closest to road racing perfection was achieved within the Need for Speed series: Porsche Unleashed. I still have my copy, and even though it has some weird graphical glitch on my computer, I still play it every now and then, just to get my fix. But, it's heavily outdated now.

Why is Porsche Unleashed road racing perfection? For one, the theme: Porsche. Instantly, we get a bunch of sweet european-esque roads along with some of the greatest sports cars ever made. Then, instead of going for extreme arcade-yness, they used a nice, believable physics system that was based more on real-world driving than your usual bullshit full-throttle system where games feel no more than just a game. The point being is PU did a good job of replicating the sort of thrills and emotions one would get by driving in that matter in those settings in real life. The sweaty palms, the darting eyes, the heart in throat when you miscalculate a corner and your 911 snap-oversteers. This is the immersion factor, something arcade racers rarely do; something I dearly miss.

Then there were the details. Cars were customizable, but not overly-so. You could buy parts to make it faster, but it was uncomplicated and worked well; being able to keep or sell old parts, for example, which meant you kept an inventory of all your parts for each car; and kept parts could be used on other cars. And, you could tune your car, though it's in these areas where I reckon some improvement could've been made, the "tuning" was sparse but could make a subtle difference.

And then there were the multitudes of single player modes, both a chronology of Porsche's history turned into a career mode (so, your career started in the 1950's and ends in 2000), as well as a test driver mode which was fucking sweet in that it introduced you to other characters, but didn't ram them down your throat with stupid acting, dialogue and pointless story. It was all of this put together that made the game so compelling. What's sad is that the game didn't do well; I guess the fact that not everyone likes Porsche's didn't help, but that's a shame. Though the car choice certainly helped for me, the game behind it was seriously good on its own, and I think some racing game developers could draw quite a bit of inspiration from it.

We need a new hero. Someone needs to come along and do it right. Project Gotham has done some good work, but they stay in the cities. Test Drive? Wasn't there one recently that took place on Hawaii? Apparently the controls and handling were sub-par. Burnout? Too unrealistic for its own good - a completely different kind of racer. Burnout is more about instant gratification rather than the pure thrill of driving. And, there's no connection between player and game; you don't "feel" the car, you just watch it. And of course, Need for Speed.. well, they've moved on in search of the latest trends that may equal more cash for them. It's unlikely we'll see anything truly good from them any time soon. They should just remake Porsche Unleashed, only with lots of other makes. Just keep the general idea the same, including the basic track designs. They're some of the best I've ever seen..

[The Swede]

Originally Posted by sdmf_from_hell

InB4 'OMG my brothers mate's skyline can kick your ass, pussy"

OMG my mate's brothers impreza can kick your ass, pussy!


(it's a rally impreza, not a street racer, tho)

[Echidna]

NFSU2 was the last one I bought. Carbon looked super polished but I played it and didn't have too much fun. Shift looked crazy like it had a realistic sense of speed, but reviews say otherwise.

My favorite racing game is easily Gran Turismo 2, I played like 20 hours straight to save enough cash for the turbo box van. I think it was like $2million.

[Mullen]

Originally Posted by Township Rebellion

There's a void in racing games today, the "road racer"...

I never played Porsche Unleashed, but Motor City Online had muscle cars and real parts, not this 'Stage 2, Stage 3' bullshit. It wasn't the prettiest game graphics-wise, but the physics were good. Instead of buying a 'Racing Suspension Kit' to make the car handle better you bought heavier springs, better shocks, and wider tires.

There is a game I've been following. It's under development by an independent developer, so progress is slow. Beta isn't out yet, but they plan on doing it right as the community has some say in it's design. I'm hesitant to post the link here due to potential trolls/trouble-makers, so if anyone wants the link they can PM me.

[ManCannon]

Need for Speed III: Hot Pursuit > All.

As far as current-gen racing goes, if you don't want something super simmy PGR4 is where it's at. It also helps that it's dirt cheap too.

[rider]

Originally Posted by sdmf_from_hell

...

If you wanted a void filler before Forza 3, why didn't you try... Say... Forza 2? Odd concept, I know.

And although it doesn't have a point, I feel like ranting about one of the funnier things I've seen in a racing game.

So, in Shift, a cold air intake gives more power than a turbocharger. What it's saying is that allowing an engine to suck more air, creating negative intake manifold pressure, thus restricting it, albeit as little as possible, will create more power than a system which puts positive pressure in the intake manifold, allowing a million and a half times more air to flow through the engine.

The NFS games are creating a generation of fucking retards. I don't even think the Fast and the Furious is to blame, I think it's the fucking videogames that are making them stupid, with bodykits that make it handle better at 30mph. How daft do you have to be in the concept of simple aerodynamics to think a bodykit will help you at 30mph? Hell, the most well-designed, functional bodykit will only help you at great speeds, and lets face it, there aren't bodykits designed for function, the ones that are are called spoilers and splitters. And I don't mean YO DAWG CHECK OUT MY AUTOZONE JDM WING LOLOLOLOLOLOL I mean proper, well-designed splitters.

/rant.

Oh, and Frinkey, I seem to recall that game, I played it on my PS1 many years ago. The one thing I remember from it that sticks out in my mind is this one mission where you drive a 911 or something in the snow, and you have to go down a pass in a specified time. I remember sliding all over the place, and never being able to beat it.

This thread and rant has prompted me to watch Tokyo Drift again. I've honestly watched this movie 50 times, at least. It's funny as shit. I watch it passively, if I can't go to bed or I'm bored I put it on in the background and let it run while I do something else.

[#1 Stunna]

No "Need For Speed" game was ever good.

[Insomaniacal]

Lets all get stoned and play something realistic... Like Mario Kart.

[Shrike]

Burnout 3 is the best racing game ever.

[NamelessNom4d]

I had so much fun with Need For Speed III and Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2, then Underground came out, and I enjoyed that for the customization, and Underground 2 came out, enjoyed that for the open world and customization, and then Most Wanted came out, and I got really bored...

I torrented Carbon and beat it... pretty fun while it lasted but Hot Pursuit 2 still has the best replayability in my opinion. I have Need For Speed III for PC, I might play that again just for old times. I really liked the atmosphere of that game, the the ambient music was great!