If you could go back in time to WWII...

[mr.blunt]

Originally Posted by Actor

Uh...how bout option 3, U.S.A.

Uh... how bout that's not part of the question, Einstein.

[Agent 008]

Personally? If those were the only two options that I had? I would probably pick Germany. Simply because they seemed to give at least half a shit for the people who worked for the success of their military.

Alternatively, I could go for the Soviet side, but only if I could be reasonably sure that once victory was achieved, me and my comrades would turn our guns against the Commissars that have been shooting their own people in the back when they tried to retreat from sure-meaningless-death situations that their retarded commanders put them into. And eventually overthrowing the Blosheviks altogether.

But since that was not going to happen... It's a dire choice between occupying Eastern Europe as part of the German army, or occupying Eastern Europe as part of the Soviet army.

[mr.blunt]

Come on people, Hitler failed miserably.

For fuck's sake, the guy couldn't even handle basic resource management. It got to the point that he had to burn jew babies to keep his ovens going. Like fuck, just maybe when you're involved in a wide scale WORLD WAR, you just might want to be able to manage, at the very least of things, ovens. Though he did fuck up his resources in general, the fact that you can't run ovens is just facepalm worthy.

[Agent 008]

Originally Posted by mr.blunt

Come on people, Hitler failed miserably.

For fuck's sake, the guy couldn't even handle basic resource management. It got to the point that he had to burn jew babies to keep his ovens going. Like fuck, just maybe when you're involved in a wide scale WORLD WAR, you just might want to be able to manage, at the very least of things, ovens. Though he did fuck up his resources in general, the fact that you can't run ovens is just facepalm worthy.

Stalin "purged" his military elite just before the war.

As a result, he had generals in his HQ who were seriously suggesting that they use cavalry against Germans. "Because it worked so well during the civil war 20 years ago". And they cleared minefields by making a squad of soldiers walk through there.

Both of those clowns were worth each other.

[mr.blunt]

Originally Posted by SHODAN

Stalin "purged" his military elite just before the war.

As a result, he had generals in his HQ who were seriously suggesting that they use cavalry against Germans. "Because it worked so well during the civil war 20 years ago". And they cleared minefields by making a squad of soldiers walk through there.

Both of those clowns were worth each other.

Hmmm, yeah that's true. So either die by your own leader's insanity (Stalin) or die by a combination of insanity watered down by retard (Hitler).

Meh, I still think Stalin's the crazier badass of the two.

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

Originally Posted by Cory

If I took over the USSR: I would take power in the early 30's as to de-Stalinize and reform the Soviet Union into more of a true Socialist state. I would not purge the military and expand research into "deep operations" doctrine (Russia's version of blitzkrieg). Also, I would mobilize my newly powerful Red Army (remember, not purging the best and brightist of the Officer corps likley quarduple's the power and might of my army) to "German standards", with the newfound doctrine's I would make the red army a mostly armored force with ample air-support.

The Russian Army may have imploded if it weren't for the purges. From what I've read, there were a LOT of factions in Soviet Russia who sympathised with the Nazis - Firstly because they didn't like eating Stalin's shit, and secondly because they identified with Hitler's idea of the superior race.

Ever wondered why Neo Nazism is so prevalent in modern-day Russia? One of the early colonies on the Russian land mass was Rus, founded near modern-day Kiev and by Scandinavians. A lot of people seem to see it as a return to their roots.

[Splam]

Originally Posted by SHODAN

I mean, both sides were the bad guys. I am *really* surprised that the Red Army didn't turn against their oppressors after the war was over. But still.
Stalin's regime ended up losing 26 million people, and that is only during the war. Germany lost about 7 million.

There are no good guys or bad guys in war. FUCK I hate how people are conditioned by society.

Originally Posted by plorntstar

well, theres no way i would join the fucking military in either case. i would probably pick nazi germany since it would have been easier to make a shit ton of money if i knew everything about how the stock market behaved and when significant events were going to happen in advance.

If you knew anything about nazi economics, they didn't allow you to become rich on playing the stock market. They created a class less society, while still allowing free trade. This ment only hard, honest, work could increase your wages. They are national socialists afterall. Before you argue that they had classes, they didn't have any unnecesarry classes. You couldn't earn money by words and contracts (banking etc), only by actions (farming, construction, science, planning etc).

[Slave of the Beast]

The Nazis, for their far superior fashion sense; the fuck I'm conquering the world whilst wearing brown.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Slave of the Beast

The Nazis, for their far superior fashion sense; the fuck I'm conquering the world whilst wearing brown.

If the nazis weren't governed by a delusional midget with a pee-pee complex, they could have won the war without much effort. They had all the advantages and then fucking wasted them on trying to capture Moscow.

WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY?

Was WWII a dick measuring contest? No wonder Hitler lost. I sear to God, if Nazi Germany was governed by a woman, we'd all be eating currywurst now.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland

The Russian Army may have imploded if it weren't for the purges. From what I've read, there were a LOT of factions in Soviet Russia who sympathised with the Nazis - Firstly because they didn't like eating Stalin's shit, and secondly because they identified with Hitler's idea of the superior race.

What? The Soviet generals such as Marshal Tukhachevsky were NOT about to "side with the Nazis". No offense, but I don't think that info is legit. Were ther factions that supported the German invasion? Yes. But not the Red Army, it was more like local nationalists.

Originally Posted by Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland

Ever wondered why Neo Nazism is so prevalent in modern-day Russia? One of the early colonies on the Russian land mass was Rus, founded near modern-day Kiev and by Scandinavians. A lot of people seem to see it as a return to their roots.

No, I havent wondered. Because people turn to movments like that as a result of economic hard times. Just like the real Nazis in Germany in the 1930's. Any other reason is purley stupid, because they are fuckin SLAVS. They do not in any way have a "place" in Nazism, except as a serf-race.

[Star Wars Fan]

Originally Posted by Dave

I would probably be conscripted and lined up for d-day landings. Who is going to believe me of an 'internetwork' ?

The dude who designed the Tokamak theorized of it. Also see Tesla and other old scientists/scifi writers

Originally Posted by SHODAN

Both didn't value human lives much in general, but look at the way the USSR was treating their people, their soldiers, and their heroes. Compare that to the way Germany was treating their people and their soldiers.

Yeah. As I said, reform the USSR. Part of the reason being certain leaders put into power.

I mean, both sides were the bad guys. I am *really* surprised that the Red Army didn't turn against their oppressors after the war was over. But still.
Stalin's regime ended up losing 26 million people, and that is only during the war. Germany lost about 7 million.

USSR wasn't exactly the 'bad guys'. The shitty/evil leadership was. Also the red army was busy being shot by NKVD and other faggots because of Stalin's paranoia post-war. Yeah someone should've shot him when they had the chance. At least Kruschev did an immediate destalinization program.

Originally Posted by Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland

I'd go back and hammer it into Hitler's head that RUSSIA IS FUCKING COLD

He already knew it. Part of his failure was spliting his southern army and not bypassing Stalingrad and getting the oil fields IIRC. The winter was a contributing factor but not the only thing.

Originally Posted by savages_viper

its much more complicated than that they only allied with the germans because they had to and wanted to take back land lost to the russians they ended up fighting the germans at the end of ww2 in the lapland war to kick them out of their country in order to make peace with the russians it was the ruskies who started it by fakeing a shelling attack and pretending the fins violated their non agression pact as a reason for the invasion

I forgot about lapland war. Still, pre-WW2 didn't Finland conduct eugenics and other shit. It was funny to see the Jewish finnish soldiers getting Iron Crosses and going 'WTF'.

Originally Posted by LiquidIce

I'd probably end up betraying the nazis and going to my slav brothers and trying to betray them too by killing Stalin.

Wait. Killing Stalinsi betraying your slavic brothers?

Originally Posted by mr.blunt

I'd just everything else he did was fucking stupid. I can't believe that guy didn't die sooner in his life by natural selection.

To be fair, he was a good general - earlier his meddling was a good thing in the Whermacht. Then it turned into a problem as the Red Army was giivng more autonomy to its' generals

Originally Posted by Splam

If you knew anything about nazi economics, they didn't allow you to become rich on playing the stock market. They created a class less society, while still allowing free trade. This ment only hard, honest, work could increase your wages. They are national socialists afterall. Before you argue that they had classes, they didn't have any unnecesarry classes. You couldn't earn money by words and contracts (banking etc), only by actions (farming, construction, science, planning etc).

LOL. Hitler got a shitload of his funding and aid from some bankers and that class colloboration i don't consider a "necessary" thing

Originally Posted by Snoopy

Was WWII a dick measuring contest?

Yes. See Blockade of Leningrad and battle of Stalingrad.

[Ocalan]

Originally Posted by not me

I would invest in the stock market. Woolworth's, Studebaker, Pan Am, Brylcreem, Bell Telephone, and Montgomery Wards. Just think how much my stock would be worth now.

studebakers went down in the 70s dont go back in time and invest in them

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Cory

because they are fuckin SLAVS. They do not in any way have a "place" in Nazism, except as a serf-race.

HAHA.