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Old 10-03-2010, 07:54 PM
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Default PizzaNazi's Final Solution for Education Reform

(I wrote this in a "This Just In" thread, but it goes into enough detail to merit its own.)

Fixing our education system ultimately means fixing certain American subcultures and acknowledging that our current system has failed to meet the demands of our current society. The following three steps should be taken:

1) America needs to openly and unapologetically lambast the concept of poor education, and the poorly educated themselves. All students need to feel some level of shame for performing poorly in school.

2) America needs to glorify education and learning, such that it is a culturally rewarding experience. I distinctly remember an atmosphere in elementary and high school where being smart was something you had to play down or hide. We need to foster a culture in which kids are eager to throw their hand up to answer a question, and in which they are proud to show off their A work.

3) To deal with our current situation where schools are filled with delinquents and poor performers, we should offer minors two options: work or study. If a student doesn't perform well enough in traditional school, he should be sent to a trade school to learn practical skills. They could be offered a wide variety of options that would appeal to their interests, and when they graduate they would have specialized knowledge and experience that they could be proud of, and that they can go out and apply in the real world. I mean, when I think back to the disruptive, ghetto, failing students I knew back in elementary school, I'm sure that virtually all of them would jump at an opportunity to, for instance, learn how to fix a car, install sound systems, and so forth. Best of all, once you get these kids interested in a subject, you could even integrate a basic scholarly curriculum into their lessons. For instance, offer a course that appeals to all of the young, black jackasses who think they're going to be rappers, and sneak some acoustic physics material into their lessons on stage set-up, microphones, and sound systems. Appeal to marijuana hype with courses on plant-growing, and sneak biology into the mix. Appeal to their desire to get rich with a business class and teach them all the arithmetic and calculus they couldn't learn elsewhere.

The possibilities are endless.

Thoughts? I can't say I'm optimistic that this will be introduced anytime soon (Democracy. ), but perhaps if more people start thinking along these lines, we might see progress eventually.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:57 AM
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What do you think about this documentary piece? I find myself agreeing with most of these points.

I'll add one more - most solutions offered by the reporter would not be accepted by the american public. Why? Because today's world is populated by leftists who think that any problem can be solved by throwing (other's) money at it. And imagine hordes of fat asses protesting before closing (a sub par) school because 'dem fascist commies wanna close down mah children'z school'.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:59 AM
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Hmm... pizzanigger has a point.
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Yeah, quite similar in the critical aspects to the system we have here, which isn't perfect but it definitely works. In an ideal world this would be the best of that, with the trade schools beginning at the equivalent to x schooling level and graduating to being a higher or further education from what you'd have at school, with one of the key benefits in that being the focus and specialised education for whatever area, as well as age-independant streaming that goes by progress and educational maturity rather than birthdate. Real education, where you learn all the basic underpinning swhilst in school then are given the option to move into Trade School at whatever level to attain trade certs and real world skills, or go on to study only slightly more refined skills to gear the student up to enter University.

Focused in educating and putting people into the workforce with at least some qualification to get them running. Not this 'cruise control' shit known as your school system where you all turn 6 or 7, enter first grade then go through 12 years of extremely vague and generalised schooling and then pass or fail.

And community college just isn't enough, it's weak. Homeschooling would also become far less common, I would think - which is beneficial for 1. Real world qualifications out the gate and 2. Education free from single track idealogical programming (it's only an amalgamation of ideals that the student will have to learn through instead).


P.S. I don't see why democracy would impede this at all. USA brand 'democracy' maybe, I suppose.
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2) America needs to glorify education and learning, such that it is a culturally rewarding experience. I distinctly remember an atmosphere in elementary and high school where being smart was something you had to play down or hide. We need to foster a culture in which kids are eager to throw their hand up to answer a question, and in which they are proud to show off their A work.
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That "Final Solution" isn't going to be put into practice when the problems are inherent in the economic system of the society in question to begin with. A society based on consumption for consumption's sake, and on profit for greed's sake, will only be interested in furthering education to the extent it can utilize education to guarantee that form of existence. Why would anyone glorify education when profit is glorified first? When the prevailing thought of the day is that you will always be able to strike it rich if you tap in to societies constant desire for consumption, education be damned?

"Production [in a capitalist society] is carried on for profit, not for use. There is no provision that all those able and willing to work will always be in a position to find employment; an “army of unemployed” almost always exists. The worker is constantly in fear of losing his job. Since unemployed and poorly paid workers do not provide a profitable market, the production of consumers' goods is restricted, and great hardship is the consequence. Technological progress frequently results in more unemployment rather than in an easing of the burden of work for all. The profit motive, in conjunction with competition among capitalists, is responsible for an instability in the accumulation and utilization of capital which leads to increasingly severe depressions. Unlimited competition leads to a huge waste of labor, and to that crippling of the social consciousness of individuals which I mentioned before.

This crippling of individuals I consider the worst evil of capitalism. Our whole educational system suffers from this evil. An exaggerated competitive attitude is inculcated into the student, who is trained to worship acquisitive success as a preparation for his future career.

I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. In such an economy, the means of production are owned by society itself and are utilized in a planned fashion. A planned economy, which adjusts production to the needs of the community, would distribute the work to be done among all those able to work and would guarantee a livelihood to every man, woman, and child. The education of the individual, in addition to promoting his own innate abilities, would attempt to develop in him a sense of responsibility for his fellow men in place of the glorification of power and success in our present society.
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