You are getting stronger every day

[HAS]

Technology is improving at an unprecedented rate and your lifestyle reflects this. Each year you're able to create more wealth per unit of labor. Every month improvements are made upon the products you use in your daily life, improving your quality of life dramatically. Manufacturing processes are increasing in efficiency and increasing economies of scale mean you can get more with less. You're becoming wiser. Every single day you learn something new. The number of ways for you to improve your health and longevity are increasing every day.

Law enforcement is improving at a rapid pace as well. Almost all serious criminals are caught, usually they're identified within hours of the crime being reported. You have very little to fear and if you are afraid the myriad of surveillance equipment and weapons available to you is superior to that of any generation previous. Any middle class family can afford a large cache of guns and a state of the art video surveillance system for their home. You can find all applicable information for both on the Internet, for free.

Corruption and secrecy within government and big business is largely becoming a thing of the past. Anyone with credible information can reach the masses via the Internet.

[ergoat]

Ah the illusion of progress.

[stunned cunt]

Originally Posted by Wood

Ah the illusion of progress.

...says the narc

[Lanny]

I want to be positive, but I feel naive everytime I do.

[iMagiNation]

HAhahhhahahahhaahhahahhahahahahahaah

Fuck.

I thought the title said "Stranger" not "stronger"

whaddafuck.

[The Greek]

Originally Posted by iMagiNation

HAhahhhahahahhaahhahahhahahahahahaah

My reaction to. The OPs post is 1) fucking retarded and probably a troll attempt, and 2) contradicting and ironic.

[Vizier]

Originally Posted by iMagiNation

HAhahhhahahahhaahhahahhahahahahahaah

Fuck.

I thought the title said "Stranger" not "stronger"

whaddafuck.

Lol, I pretty much thought the same thing and thought this thread was gonna be getting raped by ate or something.

I wouldn't call it getting stronger though, I'd say we're becoming more dependent, if anything.

[reggie_love]

Except the 40 hour workweek is disappearing along with the middle class. Also, you can forget about retirement; the government has taken care of that.

So...

We can have progress at the expense of living increasingly mechanized existences until we die. And don't tell me medicine is gonna make us live longer. Yeah, it'll prevent people from dying of diseases and infant mortality goes down, but healthy people still live as long as they did 300 years ago.

I think I'll cash out of this game with a bunch of basmati rice from the costco and head for the hills. I feel like I'd get more quality of life that way.

[Nitrile]

I can't tell if this post is an attempt at satire, or if years of being hooked up to the propaganda pump has finally gotten the better of our OP.

-The middle class is almost gone thanks to globalization and outsourcing

-Real criminals rarely ever get caught because law enforcement is too focused on busting "drug dealers", and because no one cares about black on black crime

-Corruption is at its bests. I think the reasons behind our present economic depression proves this one. I'd say Mexico's kidnapping epidemic proves this, and I'd also go one to mention Russia's mob-directed government.

n/m the original post was definitely satire.

[AdMech]

I agree with the OP. I suppose I'm in the minority among you pessimistic cynical fucks.

Originally Posted by reggie_love

Except the 40 hour workweek is disappearing along with the middle class. Also, you can forget about retirement; the government has taken care of that.

Yeah, that shit sucks.

And don't tell me medicine is gonna make us live longer. Yeah, it'll prevent people from dying of diseases and infant mortality goes down, but healthy people still live as long as they did 300 years ago.

That's sort of missing the point - medicine makes us live longer, because it helps us stay healthy. Average lifespan is continually increasing. And just because life-extension techniques haven't been made yet doesn't mean they won't be.

Originally Posted by Nitrile

-Real criminals rarely ever get caught because law enforcement is too focused on busting "drug dealers", and because no one cares about black on black crime

Forensic techniques are constantly being improved; it's a shame the government is obsessed with busting harmless drug users and sellers, but at the same time you cannot deny that it was worse before. Think about how easy it would be to pull off almost any crime back in the day before surveillance cameras, 911, DNA evidence, etc.

[The Greek]

In all seriousness, I do get stronger everyday. Its all those meaty human fetus's I've been eating. I eat a fetus for desert after every meal. The health benefits are unreal.

[Captain Beyond]

Stronger? Perhaps.
Happier? Porbably not.

[The Better Version]

Yeah this is a troll post. I don't think there's a single person out there who thinks the World is entering a better place in time.

[AdMech]

^ I do.

[Trix Are For Kids]

Originally Posted by Captain Beyond

Porbably not.

Dumber? Probably. Lol.

[Struwwelpeter]

Almost nothing in this thread is true. And the clearance rate for crimes has steadily declined since the 1950's, including murder. A lot of cities will not even respond to reports of burglaries anymore because they do not have the money and less than one in ten burglars are ever apprehended. With the coming budgetary and employment meltdowns, one question begs for an answer, would you like vaseline administered to your anus before it is fucked?

[The Greek]

Originally Posted by Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey

Almost nothing in this thread is true. And the clearance rate for crimes has steadily declined since the 1950's, including murder. A lot of cities will not even respond to reports of burglaries anymore because they do not have the money and less than one in ten burglars are ever apprehended. With the coming budgetary and employment meltdowns, one question begs for an answer, would you like vaseline administered to your anus before it is fucked?

You're an idiot, but you are right in this sense. Nothing the OP stated is true or even makes sense.

[The Greek]

Originally Posted by HAS

Each year you're able to create more wealth per unit of labor.

No, you don't understand the economy.

Originally Posted by HAS

Every month improvements are made upon the products you use in your daily life, improving your quality of life dramatically.

Orly? How has the quality of my life been dramatically improved, ever? Some of the happiest people in the world live in huts. Depression rates in western society are at all time high. Most of the population uses drugs regularly, both legally and illegally. The basic human needs are secured with very little technology, and anything more than that is just consumerism propaganda, which apperently you do not realize. Believe it or not, Axe's new body wash that smells super sexy didn't actually improve anyones life.

Originally Posted by HAS

Manufacturing processes are increasing in efficiency and increasing economies of scale mean you can get more with less.

And you figure thats a good thing? Once again, you do not understand how the economy works. For every manufacturing process that increases in efficiency, a huge number of workers are laid off, who will struggle to find jobs, go on welfare, become hopeless drug addicts, and raise criminal children. But since the corporations make a better profit, you conclude this is a good thing? This is only a good thing if you want to see humanity suffer, or if you own stock in a manufacturing plant of some kind.

Originally Posted by HAS

You're becoming wiser. Every single day you learn something new. The number of ways for you to improve your health and longevity are increasing every day.

No. Modern humans are incredibly stupid, since they are intentionally manipulated by the government and media, and raised in schools which actually prevent them from thinking creatively and originally. I'd say ignorance is at an all time high, but that would be a lie, since the human race is trapped in a never ending tunnel of ignorance, and always will be.

Originally Posted by HAS

Law enforcement is improving at a rapid pace as well. Almost all serious criminals are caught, usually they're identified within hours of the crime being reported.

Originally Posted by HAS

You have very little to fear and if you are afraid the myriad of surveillance equipment and weapons available to you is superior to that of any generation previous.

First off, your guns are fucking useless against any real force. Modern forces fight using artillery. So go ahead, hide in your house with a shotgun, if any forces oppose you, they will blow your entire house up from miles away.

Not to mention, guns won't help fix the scariest problems, such as disease and climate change.

Originally Posted by HAS

Any middle class family can afford a large cache of guns and a state of the art video surveillance system for their home. You can find all applicable information for both on the Internet, for free.

Who are you defending your home from? That shit would only be useful against hobos, niggers and zombies. Idiot.

Originally Posted by HAS

Corruption and secrecy within government and big business is largely becoming a thing of the past. Anyone with credible information can reach the masses via the Internet.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

You're fucking retarded. But probably not since you're most likely trolling.

[Struwwelpeter]

Unfortunately, he is a fool. HAS is obviously intelligent, but severely misled. He's really a slave. Somebody get him a shiny new pair of shackles for his birthday. As for AdMech, he suffers from the same thing, but he is much less obnoxious than HAS.

[AdMech]

Originally Posted by Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey

Almost nothing in this thread is true. And the clearance rate for crimes has steadily declined since the 1950's, including murder.

That's the exact opposite of what I'd assume, what with the proliferation of new techniques and security cameras and DNA evidence and all that, but I must admit I haven't seen any actual statistics.

Originally Posted by The Greek

Orly? How has the quality of my life been dramatically improved, ever?

It probably hasn't. It's improved relative to what it would have been 200 years ago, say.

Some of the happiest people in the world live in huts.

I don't think so. It's a romantic notion, the "noble savage", but parasites and disease and filth and all that jazz are no fun at all.

Originally Posted by Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey

As for AdMech, he suffers from the same thing, but he is much less obnoxious than HAS.

Well... good. I'm always open to learning new things, but - and perhaps I'm just a weak modern slave - I really can't imagine that life without stuff like emergency services and cars and plumbing would be any good at all.

Not just for comfort reasons, either. If we returned to the simple life, what would become of all the learning and knowledge we have obtained? It may not be of practical benefit in some cases, but I'd hate to see it lost.

Of course, England in the 1600s (for instance) would be much more miserable than living off the land as a simple tribesman. I read that lifespans decreased at first with the advent of cities and agriculture; fortunately, they've shot back up again with modern medicine and whatnot.

[Struwwelpeter]

There are no real "new" techniques. DNA forensics have been around since the 1980s. Video surveillance since at least the seventies in large cities, although the first video security system was patented in the 1950s. These technologies are simply not effective, especially in today's economic environment.

nytimes.com/2009/04/30/opinion/30kristof.html

[The Jitterskull]

IMO the only thing that is new is whipping up old cameras everywhere (ex: England)

[Alejandro Calvert Gálvez]

Violence has declined. It will probably keep declining. Here's a link to a relevant video, it's Steven Pinker, famous linguist, speaking about violence:

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/st..._violence.html

[Struwwelpeter]

Violent crime has been on the rise sense the economic 'recession' (depression).

telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/7619379/Serious-violent-crime-rising.html

gothamist.com/2010/11/22/murders_rapes_robberies_on_the_rise.php

Property crime is rising.

[Struwwelpeter]

As the economy collapses it is certain that crimes will increase, particularly knifepoint rapes and arson. We'll see how useful your guns are when they're lost in a raging fire.

[ilovechronic]

Originally Posted by HAS

Technology is improving at an unprecedented rate and your lifestyle reflects this. Each year you're able to create more wealth per unit of labor. Every month improvements are made upon the products you use in your daily life, improving your quality of life dramatically. Manufacturing processes are increasing in efficiency and increasing economies of scale mean you can get more with less. You're becoming wiser. Every single day you learn something new. The number of ways for you to improve your health and longevity are increasing every day.

Law enforcement is improving at a rapid pace as well. Almost all serious criminals are caught, usually they're identified within hours of the crime being reported. You have very little to fear and if you are afraid the myriad of surveillance equipment and weapons available to you is superior to that of any generation previous. Any middle class family can afford a large cache of guns and a state of the art video surveillance system for their home. You can find all applicable information for both on the Internet, for free.

Corruption and secrecy within government and big business is largely becoming a thing of the past. Anyone with credible information can reach the masses via the Internet.

Oh man you do not know how ignorant that really sounds.

[AdMech]

Originally Posted by Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey

There are no real "new" techniques. DNA forensics have been around since the 1980s. Video surveillance since at least the seventies in large cities, although the first video security system was patented in the 1950s. These technologies are simply not effective, especially in today's economic environment.

I see. I was thinking more relative to 100 years ago (or a thousand). I don't doubt that we've made little progress since the '80s.

nytimes.com/2009/04/30/opinion/30kristof.html

Well that's shitty. I'm unpleasantly surprised, though I should've known.

Meanwhile, we spend billions of dollars and tens of thousands of man-hours on victimless crimes.

Originally Posted by Neuron

Violence has declined. It will probably keep declining. Here's a link to a relevant video, it's Steven Pinker, famous linguist, speaking about violence:

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/st..._violence.html

Nice video. I'm watching it now, but I agree with the summary - even times as recent as the 1500s were brutal in comparison to now. There's still a bunch of shit going on, unfortunately, but I think it was more widespread back in the day. At least now, most people condemn it rather than accept it.

[Struwwelpeter]

The majority of rapists, assaulters, robbers and murderers who are caught are identified because they knew their victims or they were apprehended at the scene by a civilian, possibly the victim. If you look at the number of cases in which the offender did not know the victim, they get away more often than not. The best anti-crime technique has been the brainwashing of people in to believing that we live in a new high tech world where the cops have this super technology that enables them to more effectively do their job. The exact opposite is true, these guys have almost no money. They typically only catch the dumbest of people.

[AdMech]

Originally Posted by Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey

The best anti-crime technique has been the brainwashing of people in to believing that we live in a new high tech world where the cops have this super technology that enables them to more effectively do their job.

I blame shit like CSI.

Television is the one modern "innovation" I could do without.

[Struwwelpeter]

Oh, I see your point. True, we have made progress since the early 1900s.

And yep, they waste a lot of money on victimless crimes like drug smuggling and traffic violations. All while rape victims go without closure. They also waste time harassing innocent people, hence the saying "there's never a good cop when you need one."

Originally Posted by AdMech

I see. I was thinking more relative to 100 years ago (or a thousand). I don't doubt that we've made little progress since the '80s.


Well that's shitty. I'm unpleasantly surprised, though I should've known.

Meanwhile, we spend billions of dollars and tens of thousands of man-hours on victimless crimes.


Nice video. I'm watching it now, but I agree with the summary - even times as recent as the 1500s were brutal in comparison to now. There's still a bunch of shit going on, unfortunately, but I think it was more widespread back in the day. At least now, most people condemn it rather than accept it.

[Struwwelpeter]

Agreed about CSI and television.

[reggie_love]

Originally Posted by Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey

knifepoint rapes and arson..

Man, I hate knifepoint arson.

[AdMech]

Originally Posted by Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey

And yep, they waste a lot of money on victimless crimes like drug smuggling and traffic violations. All while rape victims go without closure. They also waste time harassing innocent people, hence the saying "there's never a good cop when you need one."

Our priorities are fucked up.

It seems like the more important the case, the less competent the cops... I've dealt with polite, efficient officers who let me off for minor traffic violations, but then I read about the cops in my town shooting an innocent guy because he was drunk and stumbled toward them. Sometimes I wonder if they became cops to serve and protect, or because they're power-hungry bastards.

...probably a little of both, depending on the officer.

Originally Posted by Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey

Agreed about CSI and television.

Great minds think alike. I find it funny that the two (or three; can't remember) people involved in inventing television and broadcasting hated it.

[NamelessNom4d]

I love how the best way to troll Zoklet is now to create overly positive and optimistic threads.


Oh you gais, so much negativity.

[HAS]

Originally Posted by Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey

And yep, they waste a lot of money on victimless crimes like drug smuggling and traffic violations. All while rape victims go without closure.

This is true, but I am not sure things were better in the past. My understanding is that a lot of rapes went unreported in the past because women knew they'd receive no help and they'd be disgraced. Defense attorneys in rape trials were able to ridicule the victim's character in open court.

[crazzyass]

I am also in the clear minority here.

Someone mentioned how the "propaganda" obviously worked with the OP, but it seems to me that it is the mass media pretending like everything is going to shit and everyone buying it.

You can't deny that things are better now than they were 50 years ago. Healthcare, technology, and science has all advanced at tremendous rates. The economy is much larger and there is much more opportunity.

Things aren't perfect, but they're sure as hell much better than where we've come from. Most of the problems you can talk about us facing today are ones that have always been faced. They aren't new.

[reggie_love]

Originally Posted by crazzyass

Things aren't perfect, but they're sure as hell much better than where we've come from. Most of the problems you can talk about us facing today are ones that have always been faced. They aren't new.

But that's kind of the crux of the matter.

Sure, disease is gone and no mongolians are coming through thinking "I'm gonna have rape for breakfast!" but are people really happier, or living better lives, than they were in 1956 or something? Barring discrimination, of course. I imagine it's easier to be black or gay or something that would've gotten you cut off from society back then.

We're getting more advanced every day, but I don't know if our lives are any more enjoyable for it beyond a certain point.

[King of the world]

The best anti-crime technique has been the brainwashing of people in to believing that we live in a new high tech world where the cops have this super technology that enables them to more effectively do their job. The exact opposite is true, these guys have almost no money. They typically only catch the dumbest of people.

You also have to take into account the use of law enforcement's snitches. They rely heavily on snitches and informants to make their arrests. I was also reading how many confessions obtained are false confessions entirely, often coerced. If they make it look like they're doing some work then they don't care, their job is now just to arrest and send someone to prison, not to protect and serve the public, just their leaders and their leaders images (I'm not talking about teh j00s either, so don't even bother you nutjobwho are reading this).

I often get asked how I can be a fascist when I hold negative feelings towards law enforcement and the government. Simply because they're not doing their jobs like they're supposed to and because they're fucktards who have no clue how to run a country or protect and help their communities out. I really don't blame some people who have a lack of respect for police. Why would I suppot the servers of a government who does things that aren't in the interests of its nation?

Fascist Italy's police force was competent, reasonable and served its correct purpose, for the nation -(people) and the state, in the interests of the nation and the state. The government breathed down its neck so they couldn't abuse their power either. Proper running of the country and breathing down the neck off police officers and businesses are what cuts down crime and exploitation; not CCTV. Public lashings for theft and execution for murder (in certain cases). Murder is never black and white, so it depends on the circumstances whether it's a crime or not.

I'll probably get to work on a thread about fascism sometime. I'm also a technocrat as well as a fascist, although I see the negative aspects of some technology, so I'll talk a little bit on that too. Ultra-nationalist fascism with corporatist and national syndicalist economics as well as a corporatist philosophy in the community and a nation which supports meritocracy, with a competent leader who breathes down the neck of and regulates the nationalized corporations and makes more opportunities for jobs to become available (I'll elaborate later) is what I see as the only thing that can slavage a broken nation.

I greatly admire Benito Mussolini. His march on Rome will never be forgotten.
Also, one of the best things Benito Mussolini did in the early 1920s was banning women from the workforce. Infact I agree with a lot of what Benito had to say in regards to women.

War is to man what motherhood is to a woman. From a philosophical and doctrinal viewpoint, I do not believe in perpetual peace.

Women are like sardines, best kept in tins.

- http://sp3.stbrendanschool.com/Compu...ini/Quotes.pdf

I am rather pessimistic... I believe, for example, that a woman does not have a large power of synthesis, and she is thus unfit for great spiritual creations.

With work, a woman becomes like a man; she causes man's unemployment; she develops an independence and a fashion that is contrary to the process of childbirth, and lowers the demographic curve; man is deprive of work and dignity; he is castrated in every sense because the machine deprives him either of his woman or his virility

- http://www8.georgetown.edu/centers/c...&posterID=1227

There are those who say that I intend to limit the right to vote. No! Every citizen will keep his right to vote for the Rome Parliament… Let me also admit to you that I am not thinking of extending the vote to women. There would be no point. My blood opposes all kinds of feminism when it comes to women participating in state affairs. Naturally a woman shouldn't be a slave, but if I conceded her the vote, I'd be laughed at. In our state, she must not count.

^^ My personal favourite.

Although with the way the economy is at the moment, I'd say to let women work at the moment, but only in job roles suitable to them, more lounge type job positions; but mainly in the home.

[HAS]

I'd like to take back what I said about law enforcement improving. I think Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey is right to criticize this point. Admittedly, when I wrote this post I just tried to say the opposite of what was in Jim's pessimistic thread. That being said, I think it's undeniable that technology is improving and that this almost entirely beneficial.

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by reggie_love

But that's kind of the crux of the matter.

Sure, disease is gone and no mongolians are coming through thinking "I'm gonna have rape for breakfast!" but are people really happier, or living better lives, than they were in 1956 or something? Barring discrimination, of course. I imagine it's easier to be black or gay or something that would've gotten you cut off from society back then.

We're getting more advanced every day, but I don't know if our lives are any more enjoyable for it beyond a certain point.

That's up to you, not society.

People may not be happier, but there is certainly more opportunity to be happy. With the internet, I can learn and do just about anything. I'm learning Spanish, French, electrical engineering, cooking, physics, and music. There are far less limits.

And as far as discrimination, even if that was the only thing that had changed I would still consider society a much better place.