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Yes, but I don't want to drink it.

Magnesium citrate may actually be basic, come to think of it. Vinegar it is, unless I can find a Coca-Cola.
Yeah that would make sense because when it says hcl or citrate, sulphate, phosphate, etc it means they are salts.

Can someone from the chemistry forum clear this up? Is citric acid strong enough to convert oxycodone hcl to oxycodone citrate and does it need to be basified or turned to oxycodone freebase before it can be converted to citrate?

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Yeah that would make sense because when it says hcl or citrate, sulphate, phosphate, etc it means they are salts.

Can someone from the chemistry forum clear this up? Is citric acid strong enough to convert oxycodone hcl to oxycodone citrate and does it need to be basified or turned to oxycodone freebase before it can be converted to citrate?
why would you even want to do that? hcl and citrate are both salts, your body is not going to react differently to either.
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why would you even want to do that? hcl and citrate are both salts, your body is not going to react differently to either.
Well it can sometimes effect bioavailability but I was just curious.
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Well it can sometimes effect bioavailability but I was just curious.
Maybe but structures are not all that different, I'm sure your body breaks them down almost identical.
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why do they use metal cans?
Actually, there is a thin plastic coating on the inside of a Coke can. If you take something sharp and scrape the inside of a Coke can (with cola still in it obviously ), in a few days the metal will be fairly dissolved and you can rip the can with your fingers.

If you try this put it inside a container in case the can collapses and gets soda everywhere... don't want shit getting sticky haha.
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Actually, there is a thin plastic coating on the inside of a Coke can. If you take something sharp and scrape the inside of a Coke can (with cola still in it obviously ), in a few days the metal will be fairly dissolved and you can rip the can with your fingers.

If you try this put it inside a container in case the can collapses and gets soda everywhere... don't want shit getting sticky haha.
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Yeah that would make sense because when it says hcl or citrate, sulphate, phosphate, etc it means they are salts.
Yeah, turns out it's a little basic, since citric acid is a weak acid and magnesium salts are usually more strongly basic. Good thing I didn't try it, I guess.

About to chug my Pepsi/OP solution. (Found a can, decided it would taste better than vinegar... )
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Yeah, turns out it's a little basic, since citric acid is a weak acid and magnesium salts are usually more strongly basic. Good thing I didn't try it, I guess.

About to chug my Pepsi/OP solution. (Found a can, decided it would taste better than vinegar... )
does it dissolve in pepsi? and you don't need a cup full of vinegar lol a little bit goes along ways...
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It dissolved almost entirely in the Pepsi. There are four little globs of gel still floating around, but they couldn't have too much stuff left in them, because I drank up ~10mg and it feels just like I took a single Percocet.

I would say this is way superior to the stupid microwave method. I don't know why people bother using a microwave at all, actually; it's bad for the machine to just nuke a plate with a little powder on it, and you can just as easily heat it up in a spoon. And either way, I don't think it works very well. It never seemed to make a difference to me.

A+ on the Pepsi method.
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You are supposed to let it sit in the solution for atleat 24 hours so it releases all the actives out like if it were in the gut.
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I think you reach a point of diminishing returns after a while. The pill is supposed to last about 12 hours, isn't it? That's why I stuck with 12 hours... that, and I didn't have the patience to wait any longer.
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I think you reach a point of diminishing returns after a while. The pill is supposed to last about 12 hours, isn't it? That's why I stuck with 12 hours... that, and I didn't have the patience to wait any longer.
Meh should be fine if you atleast let it sit for 12 hours.
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I was wondering what the point was in dissolving it in pepsi, you might as well just take it with pepsi
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I was wondering what the point was in dissolving it in pepsi, you might as well just take it with pepsi
Because coca-cola has carbonic acid(carbonation) in it, which helps break down the pill, along with phosphoric and citric acid, which do the same.

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It dissolved almost entirely in the Pepsi. There are four little globs of gel still floating around, but they couldn't have too much stuff left in them, because I drank up ~10mg and it feels just like I took a single Percocet.

I would say this is way superior to the stupid microwave method. I don't know why people bother using a microwave at all, actually; it's bad for the machine to just nuke a plate with a little powder on it, and you can just as easily heat it up in a spoon. And either way, I don't think it works very well. It never seemed to make a difference to me.

A+ on the Pepsi method.
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Looks to me like nobody doubted your method, and were only flaming you for being a dumb asshole. Not to mention, by the time you posted that, the method you suggested was already google's #1 result to anything OP related.
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Because coca-cola has carbonic acid(carbonation) in it, which helps break down the pill, along with phosphoric and citric acid, which do the same.



The funny thing is, when i came here the first time to share this method, a while back, i just got flamed and shit...hahaaaa....

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if it still gels how is that working? if you can get it to hold in a solution with no visible particles then I would say it worked...
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if it still gels how is that working? if you can get it to hold in a solution with no visible particles then I would say it worked...
Because most of it is outside the gel, I think. Plus, after about 18 hours, the gel itself was dissolved!

The idea is that the acidic solution makes it "think" it's in your stomach, and it starts release the oxycodone as intended.
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i'd still like to see you clean up the the solution to an injectable state
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i'd still like to see you clean up the the solution to an injectable state
You're wasting your time, go bang some Opana IRs.
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carbonic acid is just h2o and co2,
phosphoric acid is a reagent
citric acid would be the only thing that could possible break things and it's a weak acid at best
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nah i'll just buy originals from overseas
Yeah, that too.

Watch out for some of the shit from India though, some places have been to known to sell "OC 80" stamped pills that were really nothing more than a whole bunch of fentanyl. That could fuck your day up.

Like you said though, OC and even ABG imprints aren't terribly hard to come by, there's just a lot of jackoffs trying to sell the shit for $45 a pill that you have to wade/sift through before you find the real deals...
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if it still gels how is that working? if you can get it to hold in a solution with no visible particles then I would say it worked...
TIme is that key here. You need time for the active oxycodone to be extracted in to the water because it is an accidic enviorment in the stomach.
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I doubt it but i was researching this chem i just picked up a few grams off a friend on here, tried a little with some friends and they were amazed.

I hear that smoking it is bad because all of the inactives decomposing into freeradicals, so i haven't tried it yet.

well first i read about someone using cotton to filter the smoke, so i immediatley thought of my water bong.

I know that MDPV is super hydrophillic, so it wont work like THC in a bong filled with water, alot of the MDPV would get wasted but if i filled my bong with a non-polar would it let the water soulables pass through, since they wont be disolved, trapping behind and possibly neutralizing some of the bad fumes(hopefully with something less flamable than napatha or acetone haha)
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Yeah, that too.

Watch out for some of the shit from India though, some places have been to known to sell "OC 80" stamped pills that were really nothing more than a whole bunch of fentanyl. That could fuck your day up.

Like you said though, OC and even ABG imprints aren't terribly hard to come by, there's just a lot of jackoffs trying to sell the shit for $45 a pill that you have to wade/sift through before you find the real deals...
Yeah seriously fent pills are stupid, Oxycodone> fent in pill form(i am being serious)

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I doubt it but i was researching this chem i just picked up a few grams off a friend on here, tried a little with some friends and they were amazed.

I hear that smoking it is bad because all of the inactives decomposing into freeradicals, so i haven't tried it yet.

well first i read about someone using cotton to filter the smoke, so i immediatley thought of my water bong.

I know that MDPV is super hydrophillic, so it wont work like THC in a bong filled with water, alot of the MDPV would get wasted but if i filled my bong with a non-polar would it let the water soulables pass through, since they wont be disolved, trapping behind and possibly neutralizing some of the bad fumes(hopefully with something less flamable than napatha or acetone haha)
Or am i way off?
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Smoking it/ vaping it off foil is what I think you actually mean is all bad because it is in Oxycodone HCL form. Then like you noted there is also the fact that pills are intended, produced, and meant to be taken orally not smoked so the inactive chemicals within them are probably not going to be good for smoking.

Don't put any other solvents in your water pipe besides water Sounds like a Richard Pryor waiting to happen.

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i'd still like to see you clean up the the solution to an injectable state
Leaving it sit out and letting it recrsyallize wouldn't work?

Edit: Or the old cotton string trick?
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Looks to me like nobody doubted your method, and were only flaming you for being a dumb asshole. Not to mention, by the time you posted that, the method you suggested was already google's #1 result to anything OP related.
Wtf, dood you must be a total rook.
This isn't my first timerelease break exp.
you act like trying to break time releases is some new oxy thing, i have had it it on every opiate i can think of except fent, methadone, and hydrocodone and hydromorphone
the first 2 just last all day so wats the point?
but why dont they make time release norcos?
it would help my back so fucking much...
i tried fucking shitty morphines a milion times and learned with those worked exactly the same as the op oxys and i also did it on
these weird ass purple oxy 40mg i swear to god purple..i think it was oxycontin 40er or sr i dunno but if the oxys were all like the SR ones we would be fuckkkkeeedddd
even a brand new hose clamp no effect
those it didn't work on.
Fucking purdue trying to act like cornstarch actually combines to the oxycodone molecule.
If anything it just surrounds it extremely evenly....i mean you COULD CHEW IT, but that would make you a pussy, by default.
Or a legitimate user of opiates.
Fuck that reminds me i gotta send trix his fucking rooting shit.....
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just use the pepsi method, trust me, im not just talking out my ass.
any timeseal can and will be broken.
If they found out how to turn a complete inactive like ergot into the most played out drug in history.....

my stomach just growled...hes chopped fulla soma and klonopin......great fucking combo...
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Wtf, dood you must be a total rook.
This isn't my first timerelease break exp.
you act like trying to break time releases is some new oxy thing, i have had it it on every opiate i can think of except fent, methadone, and hydrocodone and hydromorphone
the first 2 just last all day so wats the point?
but why dont they make time release norcos?
it would help my back so fucking much...
i tried fucking shitty morphines a milion times and learned with those worked exactly the same as the op oxys and i also did it on
these weird ass purple oxy 40mg i swear to god purple..i think it was oxycontin 40er or sr i dunno but if the oxys were all like the SR ones we would be fuckkkkeeedddd
even a brand new hose clamp no effect
those it didn't work on.
Fucking purdue trying to act like cornstarch actually combines to the oxycodone molecule.
If anything it just surrounds it extremely evenly....i mean you COULD CHEW IT, but that would make you a pussy, by default.
Or a legitimate user of opiates.
Fuck that reminds me i gotta send trix his fucking rooting shit.....
graahh

just use the pepsi method, trust me, im just talking out my ass.
any timeseal can and will be broken.
If they found out how to turn a complete inactive like ergot into the most played out drug in history.....

my stomach just growled...hes chopped fulla soma and klonopin......great fucking combo...
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Yes, yes it is...almost as good as Soma and Valium. Fuck worrying about aching muscles, I could throw myself down a flight of stairs on Soma and Valium and not feel a damn thing.
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TIme is that key here. You need time for the active oxycodone to be extracted in to the water because it is an accidic enviorment in the stomach.
this is why I have said peg the whole time it binds to water
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peg is what is already in the pill that gels, there are many different forms anything above 400 is a solid or "gel" at room temperature! Peg 300 is still liquid at room temperature
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