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Or anyone to communicate anonymously?

An idea I have is to have a pager maybe and carry an old fashioned rotary desk/wall phone in your car and know houses that you know the peoples schedule, and when you get a page just go to a persons outside phone box and plug the phone in and call them back.

Pay phones are disappearing and I think the police listen to them anyway because of an experience I had with them.

EDIT: even if the police was trying to get you, and instead of using strangers phone lines, and instead used a lot of peoples phone you knew (since it's easier to know when they are home and not) the police aren't going to tap all of their phones to get you on them would they? That doesn't sound legal, and I think that box is where you bug the phone at, so would it even work if you plug the phone up outside?

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Only phone conversation is "Hey man, good time to visit for a while?" and then you go over there and do it and don't worry about the phone.
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Only phone conversation is "Hey man, good time to visit for a while?" and then you go over there and do it and don't worry about the phone.
But if you do that it's like what? you go over there with your stash and scale? That doesn't seem like a good idea either. Not to mention I also don't like the idea of them being able to track you with cell phones. They couldn't do that this way.
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Only phone conversation is "Hey man, good time to visit for a while?" and then you go over there and do it and don't worry about the phone.
Thats pretty much the best way, Otherwise you could try speakin hood, But your best bet (if your goin to khop some WEIGHT.) would be to stick with Jack's Idear
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Of course you still use codes but you need to communicate with people on the phone sometimes to know things to do. The thing on the pay phones I mentioned I was talking crazy and told the guy where/when to meet and I think the police were listening to it and I almost got caught. But even using codes you still need to know how much. You could just use pagers for certain codes I guess.
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Are there any other places that have these phone boxes? Do businesses have them? Just to avoid someone coming outside when you are on the phone and being like 'what the fuck are you doing?'
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Of course you still use codes but you need to communicate with people on the phone sometimes to know things to do. The thing on the pay phones I mentioned I was talking crazy and told the guy where/when to meet and I think the police were listening to it and I almost got caught. But even using codes you still need to know how much. You could just use pagers for certain codes I guess.
can you elaborate on your story? it's interesting.

on the codes thing, you could just have a code word, like, "dog" and if you work the word into the conversation, then that means to come over. for example: this damn dog crapped on my lawn/
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i usually say like hey do you have any tickets left? or i need to reserve a spot/table for X amount of people. or can you help me out on problem 2? yeah the answer is 8500. or whatever
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can you elaborate on your story? it's interesting.

on the codes thing, you could just have a code word, like, "dog" and if you work the word into the conversation, then that means to come over. for example: this damn dog crapped on my lawn/
Like 5 years ago I called someone on a payphone and talked about meeting him in a specific location and talked about exactly what I was meeting him for and I got there and looked for him and couldn't find him. (it was in the parking lot to this community park) and it only had one entrance/exit. So I got back in my car and was leaving and there were two cops and had some guy stopped and had him out of his car talking to him. It could have been nothing but it scared me away from payphones.
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Ideally a dealer would have a routine worked out with clients in advance so that all those details are known, and all that needs to be worked out is the "when".
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Why don't you & the dealer each get burner phones & switch to a new one every week? When you see each other in person each week, give each other the number for a new burner.
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Anonymous telecommunication is difficult if your a "street" dealer (eg: if people are calling you all day every day looking for shit). When SWIM was getting a lot of drugz mailed to him from across the country he would talk to his supplier over xbox live
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Anonymous telecommunication is difficult if your a "street" dealer (eg: if people are calling you all day every day looking for shit). When SWIM was getting a lot of drugz mailed to him from across the country he would talk to his supplier over xbox live
Lol that's actually a really good idea. The most anonymous way disposable cell phones but not really practical for a dealer. Good if you have other reasons to stay anonymous though.
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dont forget to give every customer a different name or nickname...dont be known as jimminycricket by everyone
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Or anyone to communicate anonymously?

An idea I have is to have a pager maybe and carry an old fashioned rotary desk/wall phone in your car and know houses that you know the peoples schedule, and when you get a page just go to a persons outside phone box and plug the phone in and call them back.

Pay phones are disappearing and I think the police listen to them anyway because of an experience I had with them.

EDIT: even if the police was trying to get you, and instead of using strangers phone lines, and instead used a lot of peoples phone you knew (since it's easier to know when they are home and not) the police aren't going to tap all of their phones to get you on them would they? That doesn't sound legal, and I think that box is where you bug the phone at, so would it even work if you plug the phone up outside?
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Your pager idea is not abad on. get the pager. but when you get the page call them using a burn phone. they can be bought for like 10 bucks and come with 10 mins of talk time. they are reload-able to but i would only reload them once with like only 30 more minutes. then which to another phone.
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Your pager idea is not abad on. get the pager. but when you get the page call them using a burn phone. they can be bought for like 10 bucks and come with 10 mins of talk time. they are reload-able to but i would only reload them once with like only 30 more minutes. then which to another phone.
then what the fuck does he do with the hundreds of phones he's going to go through in a year? Just toss them and have them fuck up the environment? Real fucking smart there.
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Just slip it in there.

"Yo, I'll get a medium meat lovers, 12 hot wings, an 8-ball, and a bottle of Coke."

"Pick up or delivery?"

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then what the fuck does he do with the hundreds of phones he's going to go through in a year? Just toss them and have them fuck up the environment? Real fucking smart there.
blow up phones are cheap as shit and who gives a FUCK about the environment? Shit by the time we've done enough damage to gravely affect our way of life me, my children, my childrens children, my childrens childrens children, and my children's children's children's children will be all dead so my question to you is WHO GIVES A FUCK
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hey man you made some dinner??

yeah man its cooked, come over/nah man, i forgot the chicken.

switch it up lol
or use disposable phones for a week/ setup meetings and meet face to face 'let's go to the park', etc

no numbers or obvious code lol
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Its literally all sketchy but do it anyways until the heat gets on, just know when to get out.
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I used to meet some people in like hallmark and other assorted stupid stores with brown paper bags full of large quantities lul
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By understanding the warrant system.

A search warrant for your house is NOT a warrant to tap your phone. A warrant to tap one phone is NOT a warrant to tap another phone. Etc, etc.

So, with your 10,000 prepaid cellphones, EVEN if they're investigating you (or someone you call/who calls you), and EVEN if they go get a warrant to tap your phone - the next phone's clean.

30 seconds per phone, cash only, switch phones in the middle of calls, trade 'em off to someone else when the 20 minutes of prepaid time (or whatever) runs out.

It's REALLY a bitch when someone starts a conversation on a phone you're tapping, then moves it to three other phones you don't have a warrant for before it gets juicy.

~shrug~ Smalltime, but useful. They should have a warrant (or link to you) for ZERO of your prepaids anyway, but in case they get one, make sure it does no good.

I'll let your own intelligence figure out "good points in a conversation to switch phones besides the time thing" - i.e., what would be a bitch if the tape can't connect part of conversation a with part of conversation b.
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Why don't you & the dealer each get burner phones & switch to a new one every week? When you see each other in person each week, give each other the number for a new burner.
yeah that's going to get expensive. Unless your some big time dealer.
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But if you do that it's like what? you go over there with your stash and scale? That doesn't seem like a good idea either. Not to mention I also don't like the idea of them being able to track you with cell phones. They couldn't do that this way.
Yeah, it's true I guess. Ideally I think I would want a place where people would come that I had somehow acquired with no ties to my real identity, but if I wanted to visit people I'd have to make runs with small quantities to avoid carrying legally stupid amounts.

The point is, anyway, not that it has to be a certain way. If no one can go to anyone's house, that's fine, it can still work.

Customer: Hey man, got a little while to meet up for a drink and a chat?
Dealer: Sure, [suggests place they don't go to all the time because patterns are BAD]
(And then they do it and don't worry about the phone.)

The point is, anyway, that there's no need to discuss anything over the phone except the actual getting together. You can talk about drugs in person. It's not like no one knows why the two are getting together anyway.
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Back when I used heroin, I used to have the following conversation:

Drug Dealer: "Yeah?"

Me: "Hey. I need to come see you."

Drug Dealer: "What'cha want?"

Me: "A breast and two fries."

Drug Dealer: "Aight, meet me at "The Restaurant". "

"The Restaurant" was code for a certain apartment complex in a certain part of the city. "The Apartment" was a certain street near a certain store. We had our codes.

"A breast and two fries" meant, "I need a gram of heroin and two $20 bags of cocaine"

Just work your own codes out. If I failed to use the codes while I was talking to my dealer, he would hang up on me.

Plus, he used three or four "burner" phones and alternated between their use. Every few months, he'd trash all three or four and start up new.
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If you're the dealer, u call the shots. Here's the phone call:

Dealer: Hello
Customer: Hey, what's up?
Dealer: Nothing- what's up w/ u?
Customer: What's up w/ the white girls?
Dealer: They're still here. Roll thru.

White girls meaning dope. You should already know what ur customer typically buys; a half, teener, a ball, etc. Anything smaller than that (and a half is already small) then you're not making shit anyway to be sketchy over this.
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Don't sell drugs out of your house, do everything over text message on a pre-paid burner phone or iPod application.
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yeah that's going to get expensive. Unless your some big time dealer.
$10 a week to stay out of jail is expensive?
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send a txt garbbled but readable won't be worth shit in court
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But if you do that it's like what? you go over there with your stash and scale? That doesn't seem like a good idea either. Not to mention I also don't like the idea of them being able to track you with cell phones. They couldn't do that this way.
I remember reading an article (I'll try to find it but I'm pretty high atm) that went into detail about how police (it might have been in the UK, too) tracked dealers & customers by the movements & patterns of their cell phones. Phone A calls phone B and they both meet up at a common location ten minutes later...they don't even need to tap to listen to you.

Also, those dumb little codes don't really help if you're really being investigated. It's just a security blanket.

The most secure way of communicating would be encrypted communications online on secure computers & what not. It's not exactly the most convenient or accessible so I've been contemplating how to make it easier to implement for black market dealings.

but yeah, cell phones are really dangerous, never bring them to a major deal at all if you can avoid it.

change up the patterns of where you meet people & what not. make it harder for them at every level.
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"Hey buddy, do you have any drugs for sale? I'm looking to buy some drugs and since you've sold me various drugs several times, I thought you could probably hook me up. You know, with drugs."
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Ive heard friends say t-shirts before, and another friend refering to a bottle of acid as a glass of Albert Hoffman. But me and my dealer have good fun doing this, like today for example I saw X Men: Whateverthefuckit'scalled,thenewone. So I call him up and i'm like.
Me: Hey man, I gotta come meet you so we can go watch X-Men, I just saw it, it was amazing.
Him: Oh ok cool, any snacks we need?
Me: I dont know, but I definetly want a Proffesor X toy, it would make my night so much more interesting.
Him: Yeah you should get a couple for you friends too, how many do you think?
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and another friend refering to a bottle of acid as a glass of Albert Hoffman.
thats subtle
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thats subtle
When I read that post, I imagined the conversation LEO might have when tapping that phonecall.

"Sir, I don't get it. The guy keeps getting calls requesting glasses of Albert Hoffman."

"...Albert Hoffman? That makes no sense. How can a person go in a glass?"

"I don't know, sir. Given the context, our best guess is that it's some kind of imported soda."

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You retards realize that your code words aren't fooling anybody right?

Besides, if you're not making enough to support yourself I SERIOUSLY doubt that the government is listening in to you selling your gram of weed. They have more important fish to fry, like cartel dealers and large scale sellers which, judging by your retarded ideas, none of you are.

So no worries really.
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You retards realize that your code words aren't fooling anybody right?

Besides, if you're not making enough to support yourself I SERIOUSLY doubt that the government is listening in to you selling your gram of weed. They have more important fish to fry, like cartel dealers and large scale sellers which, judging by your retarded ideas, none of you are.

So no worries really.
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