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Lately i've been abusing a little bit too much fentanyl. As a consequence i have become a little dependant. Luckily i am going through mild withdrawels so it is quite manageable Even more so with the home remedies i have devised to combat the unpleasant effects

I take the following medications/supplements daily to help with the withdrawels:

In the mornings and after dinner i take a special St. Johns wort supplement to help combat psychological effects. It contains:

A standardised extract of St. Johns wort with a large amount of the main active ingredient hypericine. An extract of passiflora incarnata, a large amount of ginko biloba extract and an extract of valerian root.

To my surprise it works quite well in keeping me positive, i find myself to be less irritable and less prone to depression normally associated with opiate withdrawels. I think it wouldn't be as effective as it is if i were in severe withdrawels though, so keep that in mind.


Also in the morning i take 10mg of levocitrizine an antihistamine. I take a little more during the day if need be. I find it helps prevent irritated eyes and some of the flu like symptoms.


Throughout the day i take paracetamol and ibuprofen to help with aches and pains.


My bowels are only slightly irritated but i keep immodium handy just in case.


Finally in the evenings i take 10mg of diazepam to promote sleep, i find it works fairly well.



Well that's it thanks for reading i hope it helps anyone going through mild opiate withdrawels. Also if you have anything to add or home remedies of your own please feel free to post them!
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Well that's it thanks for reading i hope it helps anyone going through mild opiate withdrawels.
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My little home remedy is called "man up".
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My little home remedy is called "man up".
My remedy for posts like this is to say "STFU and GTFO my thread"
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Why? When I had mild dhc withdrawals I just manned the fuck up and dealt with it.
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My little home remedy is called "man up".
There's no point in feeling like shit if you don't need to feel like shit. When I detox I waittill the 1st of the month when I get my script of xanax. Then I just take it all in one week. By the end of the week there is no opiates in my body and magically withdrawals are over without every feeling like garbage.
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There's no point in feeling like shit if you don't need to feel like shit. .
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There's no point in feeling like shit if you don't need to feel like shit. When I detox I waittill the 1st of the month when I get my script of xanax. Then I just take it all in one week. By the end of the week there is no opiates in my body and magically withdrawals are over without every feeling like garbage.
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I'm dealing with the same today. I haven't found a way to get rid of the depression and loneliness. Smoking pot, and drinking will dull it but but not get rid of it all the way. If you can stomache the booze it will help with the restless jittery muscles. Sweating and cold flashes I don't know. I'm drinking as I type this, thought I was gonna die at work in the sun lol. God damn those seductively sweet fucking opiates.
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Why? When I had mild dhc withdrawals I just manned the fuck up and dealt with it.
XD As if DHC addiction compares at all to that of Fentanyl.
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Over the counter / No connects

Immodium AD / Loperamide (for all withdrawals)
Generic cough suppressant / DXM - Dextromethorphan (will help slightly in theraputic doses. may help a lot if you trip.)
Bayer / Aspirin (general analgesic)
Tylenol / Acetaminophen(general analgesic)
Aleve / Naproxen (general analgesic)
Advil - Motrin / Ibuprofen (general analgesic)
DLPA / DL-Phenylalanine (DLPA has been found to be most useful for chronic pain and depression.)**
Kratom (chew whole leaves) (it is a narcotic that has opiate like qualities.)
Poppy pods/seed products (it's opium, it'll "help" with your withdrawals.)

Prescribed / Street

Suboxone. Suboxone and Subutex / Buprenorphine (a semi-synthetic opiate with partial agonist and antagonist actions)
Revia, Depade and Vivitrol / Naltrexone (an opioid receptor antagonist, so all withdrawals)
Ultram / Tramadol
ANY NARCOTIC PAIN RELIEVER, OBVIOUSLY

Additional drugs include drugs that may indirectly alleviate opiate withdrawal symptoms[easiest-hardest to get]

Benadryl / DPH - Diphenhydramine (will help relax you)
Vitamin C (this gets depleted and makes you feel overall less healthy, so taking some will make you feel better)
Melatonin (will help with sleep and will help you be relaxed during the day)
Valerian Root ( " " )
ANY DISSOCIATIVE (relieves pain)
Dramamine, Gravol, and Vertirosan / Dimenhydrinate (relaxes you and will help you feel less nauseous/ puke.
ANY BENZO / BENZODIAZEPINE (will relax you and relieve muscle aches) http://www.erowid.org/pharms/benzodiaze ... pine.shtml

Things that you can do

Exercise (amazingly helps with everything but the runs and don't run while you're nauseous)
Eat healthy (fruits and vegetables, will help cleanse your body, making you feel better and shorten span of your withdrawals.)
Get sleep (this will be a problem, but it will improve your overall sense of well-being)
Smoke weed (unless it is real bad, this will help you feel less sick, imo)
Warm bath/shower (helps relax the muscles, and will help you if you have the chills. my legs feel frozen)
Heating pad (especially around the legs) ( " ")
Receiving a massage (help relax the muscles and will help your overall health)
Abstain from caffeine (as long as you aren't dependent on it) (it antagonizes the withdrawals)

*Loperamide, in large doses (40-100+mg) helps alleviate ALL withdrawal symptoms, unless it is some serious withdrawals.

Suboxone pretty much will stop and help any withdrawal you are going through.


**http://www.relieve-migraine-headache.com/dlpa.html

In the theoretical category, I've heard reports of breakthrough salvia trips(and perhaps other psychadelics) that help end addiction. I don't know if it does something to the brain to end the dependence, or if it is a choice made by some of the experiencers.
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Fent withdrawls???

The half life is so short you could just sleep them away with enough benzos....
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For me, tylenol pm seems to do the trick for any opiate withdrawls.....
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haven't found a way to get rid of the depression and loneliness. Smoking pot, and drinking will dull it but but not get rid of it all the way. If you can stomache the booze it will help with the restless jittery muscles.
The depression and restless/aching muscles are the worst good luck bro
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I feel a lot better today, not all the way back but getting better every day. I still want to get high this weekend though. Just gotta keep it to 1 day.
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I feel a lot better today, not all the way back but getting better every day. I still want to get high this weekend though. Just gotta keep it to 1 day.
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so guys, i'm getting off [DRUG] so i'm using a fuckton of other drugs to help me.
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so guys, i'm getting off [DRUG] so i'm using a fuckton of other drugs to help me.
Obviously you've never been through a terrible opiate addiction.

I would love to see if you would just lie there, shivering, vomiting, and pissing shit out of your ass all at the same time while your nose and eyes leaked and your body feels like it's been ran over with a train for up to two weeks.

You try to sleep, but you can't because your muscles and bones ache. When you do drift off, it's shallow and is often interrupted by a random spell of diarrhea.

I highly doubt you wouldn't take some Aleve for your aches, Immodium AD for your pissing shits, Loratadine for your leaking nose and eyes, and if available, a Valium to allow you to sleep at night.

None of you would.
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Fent withdrawls???

The half life is so short you could just sleep them away with enough benzos....
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For me, tylenol pm seems to do the trick for any opiate withdrawls.....
You've obviously never had them then, i had 11 days of full on ball smashing WD's from sublingual and smoked fent.
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Yeah so i used again today. Fuck's sake. I ran out of diazepam so i couldn't sleep for shit which only added to the uncomfortableness of the experience. I still got 2 50mcg patches left so i guess i will use a little just before bed so i can atleast sleep.


Good idea? Probably not... i am betting though that my tolerance will keep on lowering if i only take a little before bed right? Which would make it easier to kick? No?

Any input? I could also try to taper off.
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Only use the little that you have left, if you absolutely just cant take it anymore. Use the minimum amount to ease the symptoms, and make it a priority to conserve your supply, and tapering is possible.
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so guys, i'm getting off [DRUG] so i'm using a fuckton of other drugs to help me.
I don't see what's wrong with that. It's not that any and all drugs are the problem, as if all drugs are the same and they're addicted to "drugs" as an entire category - it's the specific type of drug. Using opioids to get off of opioids is what would be facepalm-worthy.

What you seem to be implying is that using Benadryl to help with withdrawals will somehow contribute to the problem, or cause a new one. "So guys, I'm getting off [OPIOIDS], and now I'm addicted to Benadryl and Tylenol."
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i had some luck tapering off, but you've got to wait until you're REALLY feeling the symptoms, not just the ope's telling you "hey we should eat some more right now"

cause it's sneaky like that.
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inot just the ope's telling you "hey we should eat some more right now"

cause it's sneaky like that.
Yeah lol, you start to rationalise your habit if you know what i mean. Like, nah a little now wouldn't be bad i'll just take less tomorrow or some shit. But you never do lol.
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i had some luck tapering off, but you've got to wait until you're REALLY feeling the symptoms, not just the ope's telling you "hey we should eat some more right now"

cause it's sneaky like that.
Yeah, exactly. If you can overcome this situation, you have a good chance of tapering successfully.
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Yeah, tapering was extremely difficult. I did do it successfully, but it took being in a situation where I couldn't re-up no matter how badly I wanted to, and where I couldn't afford to be sick, so the fear of withdrawal was greater than the desire to get high.

I never understood why anyone would go cold turkey until I tried tapering. "Just have some self-control," I'd think. But it's not that simple... if you have 'em, you'll try to take 'em; a thousand excuses pop up. It's extremely seductive.
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