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A few weeks after NYS shot down stimulant bath salt sales, a local shop told me they had a new bath salt.

It was a liquid spray, sold under the guise of air freshener. I did a bunch, expecting some energy and positive feelings. Instead, I got sedated and cloudy. It felt a great deal like klonopin, which as you benzo fiends know, is quite similar to the grey area phenazepam.

So, I looked at the bottle a bit harder and noticed a few things. First, the brand name was "Zannie." I assume it would appeal to the people that are familiar with xanax recreationally. Second, it had propylene glycol as the only listed ingedient. I don't know of any other common RC that requires propylene glycol, the common solvent for benzos. Finally, it warned not to refreshen the room for at least 48hrs, which fits the half life.

Has anyone else seen it? I don't want phenaz banned

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Old 08-17-2011, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: I Think the Headshops are Stocking Phenazepam

Ive heard of American headshops selling xannax shaped bars with phenz. Looks like its gonna be bye bye phenz within the next few months
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I will FUCK some people UP if they bother my phenaz.
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Default Re: I Think the Headshops are Stocking Phenazepam

Definitely phenazepam. I think the same company presses little xanax looking bars with phenaz in it.


If you want some euphoria with your sedation, I suggest etizolam.
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Old 08-17-2011, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: I Think the Headshops are Stocking Phenazepam

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I will FUCK some people UP if they bother my phenaz.
Better stock up quick.
Anyone know if theres any clinical testing being done? I reckon it could be a pretty useful benzo due to its long half life
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Old 08-17-2011, 12:24 PM
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I fucking hate headshops.
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Old 08-17-2011, 12:54 PM
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I fucking hate headshops.
If they come anywhere near the 2c-x series I urge you all to molotov your local store
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Old 08-17-2011, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: I Think the Headshops are Stocking Phenazepam

Honestly I cant see any headshop stocking psychs like that. Pot and benzo analogues maybe but no one would unleash that onto the public thinking its a good idea.
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Old 08-17-2011, 01:18 PM
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Better stock up quick.
Anyone know if theres any clinical testing being done? I reckon it could be a pretty useful benzo due to its long half life
Clinical testing? It's already proven safe and effective. The former USSR and some slavic states prescribe it all the time. It's a great anxiolytic if you're not looking for sedation. It's just like klonopin; effective, long lasting, safe, and not really abusable.

I'm working on a proposal for this headshop for other reasons - they're blatantly selling for human consumption, carrying incense mixtures that I know for a fact have caused two hospitalizations from the damiana's temp, and now not only putting phenazepam on the chopping block, but mislabling to appeal to the multitudes on drug testing. Unfortunately, only perhaps 1% are smart enough and well enough informed to avoid failing drug tests. A lot of people are going to get in a lot of shit.

So, even though they aren't hiring, I'm going in with some stuff that'll save them money, keep them outta jail, prevent them from perforating our lungs, and land me a job I've already invented without discussing it with them, "Senior Manager of Legality, Quality Control, and of Revising Business Models in Grey Area Market Sales."

I've got addies for motivation, benzos to put on the calmest, coolest, most confident spin on my intellect and charisma. I merely need to type it up and decide what I will be asking for starting pay.

If I'm successful, I'll do whatever it takes to get phenazepam off the shelf, dishonesty included. Wish me luck.

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Default Re: I Think the Headshops are Stocking Phenazepam

The zan-X at my headshop only uses blue lotus extract or whatever. They're shitty, but another tobacco shop sells xannax or something like that with no listed ingredients.
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Old 08-17-2011, 01:32 PM
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I have more benzo experience than almost anyone on these boards, so I can say with some confidence that it was a benzodiazepine. Since the only two legal ones are etizolam and phenazepam, and since it wasn't anywhere near as fun as I've heard etizolam described, I'd stake my hat on it.

If anyone who really cares about phenazepam's status (looking at you, -PoC,) can drop like 25 bucks, I'll grab you a vial. I'd like someone with lots of experience, or even better, a qualitative manner in which to test it. I'm not trying to make any money, I'll send you the receipt or let you call the headshop yourself to confirm the price. I'll pay for first class with tracking because I want to know if this is really going down.

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Old 08-17-2011, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: I Think the Headshops are Stocking Phenazepam

Id guarantee you that it is phenazepam, why the concern though? Well why so determined to pinpoint its active ingredient. Did you like it enough to want to keep buying it or is this about figuring out whats inside of it in concerns of phen soon being banned because its now a headshop RC?
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Old 08-17-2011, 02:00 PM
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As confident as I am that it's phenazepam, subjectively identifying a drug by it's effects in your body alone is not reliable. I'm not gonna go on the warpath if other factors in my biochemical makeup that day made me get unusual effects from blue lotus or something. In my meeting, I can't claim it's phenaz unless I know, lest I lose credibility. But if it is phenaz, I think I can get it out of at least one headshop. Maybe I could negotiate with others, offering them some absurdly cheap incense to take phenazepam off their shelves.

To be honest, I wasn't sad to see bath salts go. Now you can almost trust some of the MDMA again. Synthetic cannabinoid incense is the fucking devil. I'm glad I had it while on probation, but seeing physical and mental effects too obvious to deny in long term users has convinced me that the blends SHOULD be removed from the market, ASAP. Psychedelics...well, I've never messed with them or seen them being sold too publicly, so I don't care. But phenazepam is fucking important. There are countless medical conditions where benzos are pretty much the only thing that brings relief. During insurance lapses, phenazepam is a safety net that I think needs to be protected.

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Default Re: I Think the Headshops are Stocking Phenazepam

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If anyone who really cares about phenazepam's status (looking at you, -PoC,)
The last thing I need is to do another test-dummy phenazepam stint. The last one wasn't pretty.
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Old 08-17-2011, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: I Think the Headshops are Stocking Phenazepam

Ah, well, like I said, I wasn't offering it for ingestion (that's illegal!). If someone has the means to do a real test on the product, maybe I'd even share slightly more of the cost beyond shipping.

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I believe to get it lab tested itll run you about 350, if you are really that dedicated to get your proof.
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Default Re: I Think the Headshops are Stocking Phenazepam

I don't nee that absolute certainty, I guess. A simple dipstick immunoassay is good enough confirmation, but I don't care enough to buy the phenaz and a test. That'd run my almost fifty.

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Old 08-18-2011, 04:06 AM
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This was more like central/western NY, but my observations show that only a few large wholesalers control most of those regions. It's likely you could find it.

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Ive heard of American headshops selling xannax shaped bars with phenz. Looks like its gonna be bye bye phenz within the next few months
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Old 08-18-2011, 04:21 AM
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Who fucking cares.

Its garbage....

Just order xanax online.

Or valium, that shits AMAZINGGGG
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Old 08-18-2011, 04:22 AM
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It's a marketing gimmick. Slipping up you wording is one thing, but actively selling schedule one narcotics is beyond the stupidity of even the worst man.

My shop sells brownies, and the name brand is pot brownies. They contain melatonin.

Since there's no reason to be truthful about the ingedients in something buyers agree not to connsume, why not rip them off.

Do what I'm going to do. Stop them. Even stopping one shop from carrying one unacceptable product is an incredible victory for which you should swell with pride.

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Old 08-18-2011, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: I Think the Headshops are Stocking Phenazepam

Im trying to become one of these "companies" that sells shit to the headshops.

You would have never expected xanax football phenazapam would you?

Kind of crazy.

Im gonna go for a long shot and do "micro-spots"

Lol, like microdot.

Tiny little 2c-B/MDPV pills...
People would spend their whole paychecks....

I already got a power hydraulic drill press, how do you get that tiny tiny little pill press?

I got it from there.
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That's ridiculous.

Back when I was actively using, all our headshops had was like, nitrous and that bunk "herbal blend" shit you can buy in the back of High Times.

Nowadays, you kids have phenazepam, "bath salts", various jwh compounds and all sorts of nifty shit.

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I'm still waiting for headshops to start stocking up some sort of DXM product. I'm sick of swallowing 30 pills to barely get a 3rd plateau trip. It's legal, so why not pill it up and sell it as a vitamin?
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It is very difficult to find a phenazepam vendor these days. None in the US and only a few in Europe, mainly the UK. A year ago it was available on eBay. I've never heard benzo users say anything about the stuff since alprazolam is easy to acquire. With almost no one selling it, I doubt headshops in general are stocking phen. Maybe your shop's owner is a Zoklet/Legal High Guides/Drugs-Forum/Bluelight poster.
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Dear mike,

all the headshops in town are cops. murder space and his roomate from arizona
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lol thats funny. man get outta that town theres 10 snitches a street and the rest of them are thieves. how have ya been btw
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I'd try the phenazepam/etizolam products if someone got them for me. Sure, I'm a lurker but I've been on totse since 2002.

Also I'm a benzo monster and have tried almost all the usual suspects, from xan/klon/diaz/loraz to temazepam, midazolam and yes, phenazepam from Russia (Got an empty bottle around here somewhere). I should go and see if the over the border shop has anything like this, but they suck so I doubt they will.

I will however, volunteer as guinea pig.
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