Mind: Is it acceptable to live in a state of sedation?

[Lady Julily]

A few recent events have sent my life spiraling out of control, once more. It happened just as things started to calm down and make sense. I have been giving serious thought to going back to see my psychologist and psychiatrist. Hopefully the psychologist would be able to help too, but mostly my desire to do this stems from my desire to be sedated once more. Everything hurts, nothing is able to hold my interest and I am unsure for how long I will be able to face the world as myself.

My psychiatrist will give me an antipsychotic, a mood stabilizer and a benzodiazepine prescription, if I choose to see him again. It feels to me like the right decision, but only because I cannot find hope in myself to actually overcome the mounting problems. I'm wildly emotional and selectively irrational, and sometimes I actually frighten myself. I'm at such a loss, and I'm not sure what to do.

[Proots]

It's not an easy decision to make - especially since you're fully aware of the pro's and con's of what living in both worlds will be like. You have to make that call yourself, though. Is your living situation truly unmanageable without medication, or do you find it as an easier alternative?

[ArmsMerchant]

In my book --so to speak--nothing outside yourself can really help you -- or harm you. Salvation lies within, and the only thing that can really hurt you is your mind, when it is controlled by the ego.

While benzos may dull the pain temporarily for someone in crisis, they tend to be addictive as all get-out, and I rather doubt they have any genuine therapeutic value.

I spent years numbing myself with alcohol and various other stuff. It never alleviated any genuine problems, just created new ones.

[Ghost Buster]

Originally Posted by ArmsMerchant

In my book --so to speak--nothing outside yourself can really help you -- or harm you. Salvation lies within, and the only thing that can really hurt you is your mind, when it is controlled by the ego.

Ricin would disagree with you were it capable of thought.

[ArmsMerchant]

Ricin may cause you to discorporate, but you are not your body.

[BrainSurgeon]

Only take the benzo, and only take it as needed. However, therapy without chemical interference would probably be the best way to fix the underlying problem.

Buuuuuuttt to answer your question, as a heroin addict, I find living in a state of sedation to not only be acceptable but preferable.

[Ghost Buster]

Originally Posted by ArmsMerchant

Ricin may cause you to discorporate, but you are not your body.

What are you then?

[J J The Jet Plane]

Originally Posted by Ghost Buster

What are you then?

that piece of warm macaroni that you accidentally left on the counter overnight

[Lady Julily]

Originally Posted by Ghost Buster

What are you then?

Your soul, of course.

While I don't disagree with ArmsMerchant, it's hard for one to distance oneself from illusion, because it's all that we have known. I grew up in this body, and it is the way with which I interact with this world.

[Ghost Buster]

Originally Posted by Lady Julily

Your soul, of course.

Oh ok. Because its not at all possible that a soul is an archaic religious concept that in actuality can be attributed to electrical neurological functions which create the illusion of possessing freewill through "consciousness". That's not at all possible. We have a soul instead, which spontaneously evolved in humans and other cute life forms. Cool huh. Gotta love that occam's razor.

[Lady Julily]

Originally Posted by Ghost Buster

Oh ok. Because its not at all possible that a soul is an archaic religious concept that in actuality can be attributed to electrical neurological functions which create the illusion of possessing freewill through "consciousness". That's not at all possible. We have a soul instead, which spontaneously evolved in humans and other cute life forms. Cool huh. Gotta love that occam's razor.

Occam's razor applies to the concept of a soul, in my mind. Your explanation of electrical impulses seems lacking and senseless. There is so much more, and the proof is all around us.

[Ghost Buster]

Originally Posted by Lady Julily

Occam's razor applies to the concept of a soul, in my mind. Your explanation of electrical impulses seems lacking and senseless. There is so much more, and the proof is all around us.

Ya, lemme guess, you didn't do too well in science and/or philosophy right?

[Lady Julily]

Originally Posted by Ghost Buster

Ya, lemme guess, you didn't do too well in science and/or philosophy right?

I always did well in all of my studies.

[Ghost Buster]

Originally Posted by Lady Julily

I always did well in all of my studies.

Even gym class?

[Lady Julily]

Originally Posted by Ghost Buster

Even gym class?

I didn't have traditional gym classes, but I did well in yoga and fencing.

[Ghost Buster]

Originally Posted by Lady Julily

I didn't have traditional gym classes, but I did well in yoga and fencing.

lulz, what change room did you use?

UR DOIN IT WRONG

[Lady Julily]

hmm

THINK of the Soul;
I swear to you that body of yours gives proportions to your Soul somehow to live in other
spheres;
I do not know how, but I know it is so.

Think of loving and being loved;
I swear to you, whoever you are, you can interfuse yourself with such things that
everybody
that sees you shall look longingly upon you.

Think of the past;
I warn you that in a little while others will find their past in you and your times.

The race is never separated—nor man nor woman escapes;
All is inextricable—things, spirits, Nature, nations, you too—from precedents
you
come.

Recall the ever-welcome defiers, (The mothers precede them
Recall the sages, poets, saviors, inventors, lawgivers, of the earth;
Recall Christ, brother of rejected persons—brother of slaves, felons, idiots, and of
insane and diseas’d persons.

Think of the time when you were not yet born;
Think of times you stood at the side of the dying;
Think of the time when your own body will be dying.

Think of spiritual results,
Sure as the earth swims through the heavens, does every one of its objects pass into
spiritual
results.

Think of manhood, and you to be a man;
Do you count manhood, and the sweet of manhood, nothing?

Think of womanhood, and you to be a woman;
The creation is womanhood;
Have I not said that womanhood involves all?
Have I not told how the universe has nothing better than the best womanhood?

[&Zenith]

Originally Posted by Lady Julily

Occam's razor applies to the concept of a soul, in my mind. Your explanation of electrical impulses seems lacking and senseless. There is so much more, and the proof is all around us.

Oftentimes I regard myself as a materialist, but I'll have a moment where I'll become slightly more aware of simply being aware. All of the mental paths I've trudged out result in "we simply don't know," but I don't think it's inconceivable to think there's something within or outside of the visible systems of our universe. I don't mean this in the way (necessarily) of an intelligent creator like Abrahamic (?) religions tend to let on, but I find it equally ridiculous that everything we know came from nothing. Impossible. We cannot even truly comprehend the concept of nothingness, and yet, here we are... comprehending.

[Terrestrial Mass]

Originally Posted by Ghost Buster

Ya, lemme guess, you didn't do too well in science and/or philosophy right?

Just because we understand magic and can make principles about it based on our observations of it it does not mean it is not magic.

I think that science is still in its fundamental stages and one day the life force that makes you different from a wall (both made of atoms from exploding stars, right?) will be studied and principles will be made about that too. It can be a science, we just have not made it one yet

[Ghost Buster]

Originally Posted by Terrestrial Mass

Just because we understand magic and can make principles based on observing it does not mean it is not magic.

I think that science is still in its fundamental stages and one day the life force that makes you different from a wall (both made of atoms from exploding stars, right?) will be studied and principles will be made about that too. It can be a science, we just have not made it one yet

No see, that's stupid.

I'm glad I could help you to better yourself.

[&Zenith]

Originally Posted by Ghost Buster

No see, that's stupid.

Would you care to elaborate?

[Snoopy]

First world problems. Shoot yourself in the head.

[&Zenith]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

First world problems. Shoot yourself in the head.

Any recommendations as to what firearm or where exactly in the head one should aim for?

Come on now. Only constructive criticisms and advice.

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by &Zenith

Any recommendations as to what firearm or where exactly in the head one should aim for?

Come on now. Only constructive criticisms and advice.

I was talking to the OP. You should go the Die Hard way out. Wear a sign with I Hate Niggers up in some shitty neegro hood.

[Ghost Buster]

Originally Posted by &Zenith

Would you care to elaborate?

Not really. Just take my word for it.

[Terrestrial Mass]

Originally Posted by Ghost Buster

No see, that's stupid.

I'm glad I could help you to better yourself.

Well do you agree that every atom on this earth came from outer space, most likely from exploded stars?
And then do you agree that the things that exploded to create this planet were not alive (well we don't know for SURE, but....)?
Then would you agree that the only difference between something that is mobile and something that is not is that one has an energy moving through it that makes it move?

When you agree to those questions then you will start to question what this energy is and what its source is i hope

[&Zenith]

I think you're applying your thoughts and definitions in the wrong direction: intangible, perhaps inapplicable metaphysical routes. There are many kinds of energy that are known to man and I'm not certain you're speaking about any of those.

[Ghost Buster]

All the words uses are used incorrectly imo, including basic ones like science. I don't feel like explaining why he is wrong because it would take to wrong to work around his retarded writing.

E.x. "science is in its fundamental stages"

...Science is a process, it can never be completed, and will therefore always appear to be in its fundamental stages.

[Terrestrial Mass]

Originally Posted by &Zenith

I think you're applying your thoughts and definitions in the wrong direction: intangible, perhaps inapplicable metaphysical routes. There are many kinds of energy that are known to man and I'm not certain you're speaking about any of those.

i'm talking about ALL of them. I'm talking about the energy that makes the tiniest particle that exists vibrate, then up to the energy that makes an electron spin around a nucleus, then up to gravity, then electricity, then so on. The universe is full of energy. Lots of types with many different names. But what is its source? Even if its source is not a being i will call it God, but I digress.

I just wanted to say that just because we don't call something a science yet does not mean it can not be one.

[High School Janitor]

Biology is the study of life jackass.

[Terrestrial Mass]

Originally Posted by Ghost Buster

All the words uses are used incorrectly imo, including basic ones like science. I don't feel like explaining why he is wrong because it would take to wrong to work around his retarded writing.

E.x. "science is in its fundamental stages"

...Science is a process, it can never be completed, and will therefore always appear to be in its fundamental stages.

Science can be completed. But not by a human being. Science is complete already, we just have not discovered it all yet

[Ghost Buster]

Originally Posted by Terrestrial Mass

Science can be completed. But not by a human being. Science is complete already, we just have not discovered it all yet

Ya man, I have high hopes for 2024.

Fucking idiot. Humans are insignificant specs of shit on the grand scheme of "science", we will never be able to comprehend all of it, or discover all of it. In fact, I would argue that in actuality we really know nothing for certain, we only know our experiment's results, which are replaced by superior experiment results. We don't actually understand the laws of nature, some experimental results with the large hadron collider could entirely replace modern physics. You have no idea.

[Terrestrial Mass]

Originally Posted by Ghost Buster

Ya man, I have high hopes for 2024.

Fucking idiot. Humans are insignificant specs of shit on the grand scheme of "science", we will never be able to comprehend all of it, or discover all of it. In fact, I would argue that in actuality we really know nothing for certain, we only know our experiment's results, which are replaced by superior experiment results. We don't actually understand the laws of nature, some experimental results with the large hadron collider could entirely replace modern physics. You have no idea.

EXACTLY, but you tried to act like you did earlier so i stepped in......

[Lady Julily]

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[Ghost Buster]

Originally Posted by Terrestrial Mass

EXACTLY, but you tried to act like you did earlier so i stepped in......

Oh so you're illiterate, I get it now.

[JustinBieberz]

Just keep taking your Xanax, making sure to abstain from alcohol, and you'll be fine

[Lady Julily]

What has become of my thread?

[&Zenith]

Originally Posted by Terrestrial Mass

i'm talking about ALL of them. I'm talking about the energy that makes the tiniest particle that exists vibrate, then up to the energy that makes an electron spin around a nucleus, then up to gravity, then electricity, then so on. The universe is full of energy. Lots of types with many different names. But what is its source? Even if its source is not a being i will call it God, but I digress.

I just wanted to say that just because we don't call something a science yet does not mean it can not be one.

I understand what you're saying now, and I agree. It actually coincides with what Ghost Buster over there is saying. I can only hope medical science advances quick enough so that we can maybe see the mysteries of the universe itself unravel, but I think that's something beyond our time unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Lady Julily

What has become of my thread?

Flow of discussion. Shall we get back to the original point?

[Terrestrial Mass]

Originally Posted by Ghost Buster

Ya, lemme guess, you didn't do too well in science and/or philosophy right?

This is what irked me, trying to explain through science we dont have a soul....
I'm not saying we do or don't, I hate scientific athiests. The more you learn about science, the more you realize you'll never understand. I hate athiests or similar people trying to explain really really big things with something as unrelated and insignificant as our science. And it does kinda correlate with what you said earlier in a way, just dont get too cocky

[Zanick]

OP is clearly retarded because my scientific principles conflict with her spiritual beliefs.



Take your pills short-term if you need them, learn coping strategies in the meantime and get a good therapist who can work with you on this. Ask you doctor first what they think.