The Ron Paul Thread - Page 31

DiStOrTiOn · #**1201** 03-19-2012, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ZappaFan

Technically though, isnt Ron Paul a republican because he's running as one?

The party someone runs as doesn't mean shit these days. Look at Obama. He ran as a democrat, and turned out to be a neocon republican.

ZappaFan · #**1202** 03-19-2012, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DiStOrTiOn

The party someone runs as doesn't mean shit these days. Look at Obama. He ran as a democrat, and turned out to be a neocon republican.

Yeah thats what I assume. Party names dont mean shit anymore. I was just askin about the logic behind Ron Paul supporters gettin thrown out when its a republican convention.

**mizled** · #**1203** 03-19-2012, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DiStOrTiOn

Paul is far more republican than the other candidates. Mizled is just a fool who's been suckered into thinking neocon totalitarianism is the true republican platform.

Ron Paul is as republican as Obama is democrat. It's just a marriage of convenience.
You're a tool for using the term 'neocon'.

**mizled** · #**1204** 03-19-2012, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ZappaFan

Technically though, isnt Ron Paul a republican because he's running as one?

Yes. But unless his "supporters" are registered Republicans, they have no right (in some states) to be involved in republican primaries and/or caucuses.

And if they show up, some asshole might call the cops to remove them, eh?

Psych · #**1205** 03-19-2012, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mizled

Ron Paul is as republican as Obama is democrat. It's just a marriage of convenience.

So what is the definition of a real Republican?

The Pat-Man · #**1206** 03-19-2012, 04:55 AM

the fact that these "republicans" call themselves the grand old party sickens me. there are no more republicans, just morons.

DiStOrTiOn · #**1207** 03-19-2012, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Psych

So what is the definition of a real Republican?

Republicans are pro-foreign intervention, pro religious bigotry, anti civil-liberties and for authoritarianism, and are corporate sycophants. Anyone running who doesn't conform to this neocon platform is not a true republican!

DiStOrTiOn · #**1208** 03-19-2012, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pat-Man

there are no more republicans, besides Ron Paul

fixed.

**mizled** · #**1209** 03-19-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DiStOrTiOn

Republicans are pro-foreign intervention, pro religious bigotry, anti civil-liberties and for authoritarianism, and are corporate sycophants. Anyone running who doesn't conform to this neocon platform is not a true republican!

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Originally Posted by DiStOrTiOn

there are no more republicans, besides Ron Paul

That's a shame. According to the Oil Controlled Neomedia, The other three seem to be beating his ass off.

-SpectraL · #**1210** 03-19-2012, 03:32 PM

Back when the country's democratic process was forged in blood and steel, the enemies/traitors of liberty within the government structures did not have such great wealth, power and resources. Today they have practically unlimited financing to pay off legions of goons to do their dirty work for them, they have endless amounts of resources to strangle the people off and drive them into submission whether they like it or not, and they also have many friends within the corporate power structures who are more than willing to help out if there's a buck in it for them. There's simply no way you could have another American Revolution in this modern age. These traitors to humanity are much too firmly entrenched at this point for any kind of citizen intervention. They have become mighty over the decades, and right now they would destroy all and everything just so no one else can have it. So there's really no way to win. Even if the people did somehow overcome these tyrants, thieves, liars and murderers, on their way out they would leave absolute destruction in their wake. Nothing would be left. They would destroy themselves along with the entire planet if it ever came to another American Revolution. No, the time for action on the part of the people has long ago passed, and all we can do now is sit tight and wait to see what they will do next, and leave it to the Creator to take care of them the way they should have always been taken care of. It's His battle at this point, not ours.

**Cory** · #**1211** 03-19-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DiStOrTiOn

Republicans are pro-foreign intervention, pro religious bigotry, anti civil-liberties and for authoritarianism, and are corporate sycophants. Anyone running who doesn't conform to this neocon platform is not a true republican!

Honestly though this is a fact in the modern Republican Party. The thing is party's change, especially in a 'big tent' two-party system. Although back in the 1890's-1940's the GOP was much more libertarian in policy then today's 'New Right', the party is now the party of the hawk lobby, social conservative, and market-based coalition. Just like how in the 1890's-1970's the Democrats were the party of social-democracy, now they are dominated by the DLC Democrats who are basically centrists (and no, "ObamaCare" doesn't compare to the New Deal, Social Security, and the Great Society).

-SpectraL · #**1212** 03-19-2012, 10:22 PM

Government, commerce and religion should be deliberately separated.

Psych · #**1213** 03-20-2012, 03:46 AM

Rick Santorum: The Unemployment Rate Doesn't Matter To Me - YouTube

Ron Paul EXPOSES the Real GDP and Unemployment Numbers - YouTube

ChargerCarl · #**1214** 03-20-2012, 03:47 AM

So then why doesn't Ron Paul support more monetary/fiscal stimulus?

Psych · #**1215** 03-20-2012, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ChargerCarl

So then why doesn't Ron Paul support more monetary/fiscal stimulus?

Ron Paul: Stimulus "Waste of Money" Sad Day for America CNN 2 16 09 - YouTube

Ron Paul: Obama Stimulus Package Will Turn Recession Into Depression - YouTube

Psych · #**1216** 03-20-2012, 07:15 AM

CNBC Finnaly Cheers Ron Paul & Brings Common Sense with Nassim Taleb - YouTube

This dude has a major stuttering problem but he also seems real as fuck. Smart too.

ZappaFan · #**1217** 03-20-2012, 08:20 PM

Tim Johnson Of Illinois "Ron Paul Is A Bastion Of Integrity" - YouTube

-SpectraL · #**1218** 03-21-2012, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ZappaFan

Tim Johnson Of Illinois "Ron Paul Is A Bastion Of Integrity" - YouTube

I like how these news anchors come across as deliberately retarded just so they can insert anti-Paul rhetoric into the questions and their banner. You can really see who the goons on the corporate payroll are because they make it so obvious. Pretty sickening stuff.

Duke Zion · #**1219** 03-21-2012, 03:56 AM

Ron Paul on the tonight show right now if you guys want to check it out

Psych · #**1220** 03-21-2012, 05:50 AM

Ron Paul on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno - March 20, 2012 - YouTube

i poop in your cereal · #**1221** 03-21-2012, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Psych

Ron Paul on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno - March 20, 2012 - YouTube

9:00 - What a total moron.

Turd_Smasher · #**1222** 03-21-2012, 04:42 PM

His view against abortion is the only thing I dislike about him.

On the upside, he did manage to find a suit that fits.

ZappaFan · #**1223** 03-21-2012, 08:55 PM

Reality Check GOP committee attempts to manipulate delegate process in Missouri - YouTube

Malice · #**1224** 03-21-2012, 11:06 PM

Sick Boy · #**1225** 03-21-2012, 11:38 PM

Youtu.be

Psych · #**1226** 03-22-2012, 07:35 AM

Ron Paul: Restore Due Process and the Rule of Law - YouTube

Psych · #**1227** 03-22-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ZappaFan

Reality Check GOP committee attempts to manipulate delegate process in Missouri - YouTube

Nice to see an actual journalist investigating the caucuses instead of some bleached bimbo puppet reading a teleprompter.

ZappaFan · #**1228** 03-22-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Psych

Nice to see an actual journalist investigating the caucuses instead of some bleached bimbo puppet reading a teleprompter.

Yeah. Ben Swann is fucking awesome

ZappaFan · #**1229** 03-23-2012, 12:18 AM

Well, once again Ron Paul was right. The dollar is fucked.

India buys OIL from IRAN with GOLD & abandons the USD. Will this be the end of the USD? - YouTube

whocares · #**1230** 03-23-2012, 12:21 AM

Meanwhile

**Cory** · #**1231** 03-23-2012, 07:52 AM

If I may ask, what do you guys (Paul backers) plan to do in the general election if Romney gets the nomination and picks a SoCon as his VP (McDonnell, Jindal, DeMint, ect)?

Would you vote for a third party? Is there any way Romney could get your vote (his campaign is really hoping to get them into the fold for November)?

It's just out of curiosity. I want to get a feel for how the Paul demographic ('Liberty Movement', if you will) could play out in the Fall.

DiStOrTiOn · #**1232** 03-23-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cory

If I may ask, what do you guys (Paul backers) plan to do in the general election if Romney gets the nomination and picks a SoCon as his VP (McDonnell, Jindal, DeMint, ect)?

Would you vote for a third party? Is there any way Romney could get your vote (his campaign is really hoping to get them into the fold for November)?

It's just out of curiosity. I want to get a feel for how the Paul demographic ('Liberty Movement', if you will) could play out in the Fall.

If anyone besides Paul gets nominated, I will vote for Obama. He's still pretty much a neocon but he has done some good shit that I approve of. He's far more favorable than Romney/Santorum.

I might vote for Gingrich if he gets nominated, because I like his moon base idea and other space-related aspirations.

Psych · #**1233** 03-23-2012, 05:45 PM

I'm Canadian so this is more of an educational exercise... I would write Ron Paul's name in if he wasn't on the ballot.

Psych · #**1234** 03-23-2012, 07:15 PM

Ron Paul on The Kudlow Report CNBC 3/22/12 - YouTube

Continuing to own people left and right.

ZappaFan · #**1235** 03-23-2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory

If I may ask, what do you guys (Paul backers) plan to do in the general election if Romney gets the nomination and picks a SoCon as his VP (McDonnell, Jindal, DeMint, ect)?

Would you vote for a third party? Is there any way Romney could get your vote (his campaign is really hoping to get them into the fold for November)?

It's just out of curiosity. I want to get a feel for how the Paul demographic ('Liberty Movement', if you will) could play out in the Fall.

Its Goldman Sachs vs. Goldman Sachs

Depending on who runs as a third party, I may or may not vote. If Ron decides to go it, he will get my support. I voted for Bob Barr in the last election, but I don't know if he's running this year.

I will not vote for Romney or Obama. Its not that Im apathetic voting, but I seriously doubt there is gonna much difference from one another.I would just rather not participate in the election. Im all for voting, but I can't vote for someone who I totally disagree with. Me voting for Obama or Romney is worse than not giving a shit. Call me apathetic, but I can't support them, even if its the lesser of two evils

Malice · #**1236** 03-23-2012, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DiStOrTiOn

If anyone besides Paul gets nominated, I will vote for Obama. He's still pretty much a neocon but he has done some good shit that I approve of.

Like what?

**Cory** · #**1237** 03-24-2012, 12:32 AM

So most of y'all basically aren't going to vote if Paul isn't running? Or will vote for some Libertarian third party?

What if you lived in a key swing state (OH/NC/VA/FL/ect)?

Psych · #**1238** 03-24-2012, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cory

So most of y'all basically aren't going to vote if Paul isn't running? Or will vote for some Libertarian third party?

What if you lived in a key swing state (OH/NC/VA/FL/ect)?

Does it matter? Romney and Obama will be the exact same president.

Malice · #**1239** 03-24-2012, 01:02 AM

No, Romney would have to worry about getting reelected, Obama wouldn't. A second term for Obama is much more dangerous. Also, some catering to the republican party would be a good thing, like the repeal of obamacare and maintenance of gun rights.

**Cory** · #**1240** 03-24-2012, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Malice

No, Romney would have to worry about getting reelected, Obama wouldn't. A second term for Obama is much more dangerous. Also, some catering to the republican party would be a good thing, like the repeal of obamacare and maintenance of gun rights.

I was going to mention this effect. I guess the question to a lot of conservatives this cycle is:

Would you rather have a known enemy or a forced ally? Is the committed panderer better then the open opposition?

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