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Notes from the first 15 minutes:

- neuroplasticity allows unskilled people to learn and hone new skills

- when we feel our thoughts are threatened by others, we enter a defensive state

- in this state a more primitive part of our brain interferes with rational thinking

- social validation allows people to become self-aware more easily

- self-observance changes the way our brains work, strengthening rationality and emotional resilience

- when we are not self-aware our thoughts and actions are mostly impulsive

- there is no specific center of consciousness, "you" are the unity of several different circuits that may or may not be activated at different times, changing who "you" are at these times

- "will" is the drive to reduce dissonance between each of our active neural circuits

- when a person faces the paradox of wanting purpose while thinking that existence is meaningless, cognitive dissonance occurs
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Old 04-01-2012, 03:46 PM
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More notes:

- we, consciousness, are equally the result of cerebral hemispheres interacting electrochemically as we are of the senses connecting our neurons to other neurons in our environment

- another persons consciousness is not external to "your own", this is a basic property of mirror neurons which allow us to understand ourselves through others

- superorganismal features are also reflected in our evolution, where our survival relied on our collective abilities

- What am I? A momentary expression of an ever-changing unity with no center. The psychological consequences of believing this allows for self-awareness without attachment to the self, increases in mental clarity, social conscience, self-regulation and being "in the moment"

- traditional tendencies to define ourselves as imaginary individualistic constants neurally wires and designs the brain towards dysfunctional processes such as compulsive labeling and the psychological need to impose expectations

- interactions that accept us for who we are without judgment are neuropsychological catalysts that wire the brain to acknowledge others and accept rationally verified belief systems without dissonance, alleviating the need for entertainment and creating cycles of constructive behavior
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Seriously there was no one around that spoke english right? The guy pronounces every word in a weird fucking way.
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Thanks for the notes, Obbe; I don't like watching videos, and I'm sure many won't have the time, so that's very helpful. I'll give a meatier reply later; just wanted to let you know your work is not unappreciated and the thread is not unread.
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I feel impelled to address the question "What am I."

I am--like everyone else--a Son of God.

I am not my body, nor am I what I think or feel or do.

I am immortal, eternal, invulnerable--sinless, guiltless, wholly loved and wholly loveable.

And--like everyone else--I am more or less insane.

Total sanity is quite rare, the requisites being to be able to manifest total forgiveness and unconditional love ALL THE TIME, to know that salvation is within, that the world has nothing that we want, to never attack one's brother, to always realize that we are ALL one and to act that way, to know that to give is to receive, and to know that Heaven is here and now--it need not be sought, as we never left.

And the only thing that can hurt us is our own mind.
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So I only wrote down notes from the first half of the movie, I may take notes on the second half and post them here; but what do you all think of the video? Do you find it interesting? Insightful? Boring? Trollish? Do you think Athene is being sincere? Do you think there is anything about this worth mentioning?
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Bumping because this is interesting regardless of your opinions, however I am also very interested in your opinions and would appreciate you posting them.
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It was an interesting video, but the unification of ideas didn't happen in any sort of meaningful way.
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I feel like this video requires some more attention.
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I thought I thanked this already.

And yeah, it is really, really good IMO. One of my favorite videos on the web
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I was wondering what ever happened to him. I like when he levels up his bitch.
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Had a look at it just now and I like it.
Will watch it properly later though.
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I thought I thanked this already.

And yeah, it is really, really good IMO. One of my favorite videos on the web
What is it that you like about this video?
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Bump because of the relevance to recent meditation threads.
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Individual consciousness is the normal outcome of processes of collective naming, classifying, monitoring, judging, and reflecting on the individual members of the group or organization. And an individual in a collective context learns to participate in discussions and discourses about "themself", that is, group reflections on themself, their appearance, their orientations and attitudes, their strategies and conduct. Thus, an individual learns (in line with George Herbert Mead's earlier formulations) a naming and classification of themself (self-description and identity) and a characterization of their judgments, actions, and predispositions.

In acquiring a language and conceptual framework for this mode of activity along with experience and skills in reflective discussion they develop a capability of inner reflection and inner dialog about themself. These are characteristic features of a particular type of individual "consciousness". This conception points up the socially constructed character of key properties of the human mind, realized through processes of social interaction and social construction. In sum, individual self-representation, self-reference, self-reflectivity, and experiences of consciousness, derive from the collective experience.
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I saw this a year or two ago and found it very interesting.

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This is a great thread, well worth the watch. I had retyped a long, well thought out response, but I tapped the wrong area of my iPhone screen by accident and it went back a page and erased it all. Fucking livid right now, oh well. I loved the notion that planets move as a helix through space-time, opposed to an ellipse through space. I agree that free will is illusory, but the narrator contradicts himself by referring to it again at the end.

One thing I couldn't quite understand is why he chooses not to list time as a fourth dimension of space? Is it because he is imply it is not strictly bi-directional?

I don't fully agree with the point of view of the guy in the RE: video, but I want to smoke a joint with that motherfucker, he seems cool as shit.
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One thing I couldn't quite understand is why he chooses not to list time as a fourth dimension of space? Is it because he is imply it is not strictly bi-directional?
I don't really know what you mean. Could you explain the question a little more?
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What is the self-reflection he's talking about? Is this like having a journal/diary thing and keeping note of what choices you made that day then reviewing them and thinking about them and stuff?
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What is the self-reflection he's talking about? Is this like having a journal/diary thing and keeping note of what choices you made that day then reviewing them and thinking about them and stuff?
I would have to re-watch it to know the context. Could you quote what he says, or post the time he mentions it?
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I don't really know what you mean. Could you explain the question a little more?
In the video, they assert that time is not the 4th Dimension. It is a principal of Classical Physics (non-quantum) that the basic 4 Dimensions are Width, Length, Height, and Time.

Length, Width, and Height (as well as the traditional idea of time) are bi-directional lines, with finite starting and ending points.

If my understanding of Athene's research is correct, he suggests that Time's origin is in the future, and we are moving backwards through it (across it?) but that it does not necessarily have a finite point, or even a straight direction the point would follow, in our "past".

I guess I'm asking if you guys could illustrate that a little better? Or tell me if I misunderstood something?
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In the video, they assert that time is not the 4th Dimension. It is a principal of Classical Physics (non-quantum) that the basic 4 Dimensions are Width, Length, Height, and Time.

Length, Width, and Height (as well as the traditional idea of time) are bi-directional lines, with finite starting and ending points.

If my understanding of Athene's research is correct, he suggests that Time's origin is in the future, and we are moving backwards through it (across it?) but that it does not necessarily have a finite point, or even a straight direction the point would follow, in our "past".

I guess I'm asking if you guys could illustrate that a little better? Or tell me if I misunderstood something?
I've heard of Indigenous peoples that have a similar view of time. I can't remember where they were from but it was a very strange concept to try and understand for someone with a western worldview. Not particularly relevant but it was interesting nonetheless. if I remember or find anything about it I'll post.
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This question of time can only be answered at certain points in time.
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This question of time can only be answered at certain points in time.
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