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33% God · #81 04-11-2012, 03:59 AM

That picture originated from a white supremacy message board and has been debunked as a fake picture/not Trayvon.

Either way, that doesn't warrant some dude following the kid when the cops told him to stay put and shooting him. This isn't the south with your "daddy" anymore, welcome to 2012.

Tachosomoza · #82 04-11-2012, 04:02 AM

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That's not Trayvon Martin.

Yeah, that's shit from Stormfront. It's sad, people are trying to slander the victim to try to justify this shit. They were even trying to suggest that he stole the fucking skittles and tea. Oy vey, I don't know why I even share space with these airhead fuckers.

In a way, I wouldn't mind seeing the entire Stormfront/chimpout crew tortured to death in the most heinous way possible. The fact that people are still allowed to think and express opinions like that is ridiculous.

Built To Last · #83 04-11-2012, 04:04 AM

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That's not Trayvon Martin.

The worst part isn't that it's not Trayvon, it's that we all assumed it was

Dread_Lord · #84 04-11-2012, 04:07 AM

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That picture originated from a white supremacy message board and has been debunked as a fake picture/not Trayvon.

Wrong. Trayvons pictures come from myspace and facebook and yes, he was a drug dealing thug who sold drugs to high school kids and had gold teeth.
That picture in particular is questionable, doesn't really look like him.
But this one is not.

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Either way, that doesn't warrant some dude following the kid when the cops told him to stay put and shooting him. This isn't the south with your "daddy" anymore, welcome to 2012.

When the police told him to stop he said "okay" and stopped following.

He shot Trayvon because Trayvon assaulted him.

Tachosomoza · #85 04-11-2012, 04:10 AM

If Treyvon assaulted him, it was completely justifiable in the circumstance. I'd do the same thing if a stranger acted like he had some authority over me, and if he started making moves as if he was going to hurt me, he'd have a KA-BAR in him.

bortmackie · #86 04-11-2012, 04:20 AM

Telling a dude with a gun to 'fuck off'? Don't you have any sense of self-preservation? It's really easy to act like a tough motherfucker, but i can honestly say i would have been a pussy and gotten the fuck out of there. Better to wuss out than get shot and killed.

Dread_Lord · #87 04-11-2012, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

If Treyvon assaulted him, it was completely justifiable in the circumstance. I'd do the same thing if a stranger acted like he had some authority over me, and if he started making moves as if he was going to hurt me, he'd have a KA-BAR in him.

Is that so?

Let's ask everyone here.
If someone is following you and asks you what you're doing in their neighborhood which of the following is the most civil response?

A. Assault them.
B. Answer their questions politely.
C. Get rude/ignore the person.

Everyone should also note that Tachosomoza provided no evidence for his claim that Zimmerman held Trayvon at gunpoint, despite being asked to.
But have no fear, even though he has absolutely no fucking evidence for such an idiotic claim he will return tomorrow making the same exact claim.

Then 2 months down he will ask me to prove to him that he's an idiot and when I refuse to try and explain to this fucking dipshit exactly why he's completely and hopelessly retarded he will be like "That's what I thought, you're just hate me".

Dude should be euthanized.

Rodrat · #88 04-11-2012, 04:23 AM

Funny how so many racists are on this site when the owner is a black man. You people act like a bunch of twelve year olds dishing out what your racist grandpa said. This aint the fifties anymore. Get with the times. Racism from either side promotes hatrid and hostility. If you really want these "niggers" to act like moral good citizens then treat them like one. They are not beneath you. You people are idiots for thinking that.

And tacho you're a cool guy but I really think you're just egging them on.

Tachosomoza · #89 04-11-2012, 04:28 AM

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Funny how so many racists are on this site when the owner is a black man. You people act like a bunch of twelve year olds dishing out what your racist grandpa said. This aint the fifties anymore. Get with the times. Racism from either side promotes hatrid and hostility. If you really want these "niggers" to act like moral good citizens then treat them like one. They are not beneath you. You people are idiots for thinking that.

And tacho you're a cool guy but I really think you're just egging them on.

I'm just trying to see how far they'll bend over backwards to justify the death of an unarmed kid simply because of his ethnicity. So far, we've several new limbo champions.

Rodrat · #90 04-11-2012, 04:37 AM

The way I see it is people die. We all do eventually. I would love to see justice on the matter but to me it doesn't change anything. The situation is blown out of proportion. What America as a whole should focus on is our country bit we're worried about somelid no one ever knew. My 17 year old cousin was shot and killed by a group of black men wanting drug money last November. Where is his coverage. He made second page news in our local paper.

WeaselKit · #91 04-11-2012, 04:39 AM

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I'm just trying to see how far they'll bend over backwards to justify the death of an unarmed kid simply because of his ethnicity. So far, we've several new limbo champions.

Yeah Dread_Lord is a blind little faggot.

Doesn't matter how you spin this thing, shooting someone because you're getting your ass kicked isn't justifiable especially in this case because Zim didn't even go to the hospital and the assulter was a fucking kid for christs sakes. If Trayvon was 10 and broke this dudes noes because he was autistic and prone to tantrums Dread would still see his death justified simply because hes black.

What kind of faggot (one on the neighborhood watch at that) follows a suspected criminal and then when shit goes down can't defend himself? ... Especially against a fucking KID.

OMG this kid with his skittles and tea is going to kill me!! OH NOES!!

Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland · #92 04-11-2012, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

I'm just trying to see how far they'll bend over backwards to justify the death of an unarmed kid simply because of his ethnicity. So far, we've several new limbo champions.

The only even somewhat reliable testimony indicates that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman, laying into him when he was shot. We don't know that Zimmerman was aggressive, we don't know that he approached with his gun drawn. For all we know he asked "do you live around here" and Trayvon started punching him.

There's nothing but hearsay as to how it got to that point. There's nothing to indicate it was racially motivated, and yet you support the hordes of blacks blaming 'the man' and asking for vigilante 'justice'. NBC twisted the story and they just continue to eat it up.

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Doesn't matter how you spin this thing, shooting someone because you're getting your ass kicked isn't justifiable especially in this case because Zim didn't even go to the hospital and the assulter was a fucking kid for christs sakes.

Welcome to 'I need a gun to defend myself' America.

Also, you've never met a 17 year old that could throw a punch? Seems kind of unlikely.

Dread_Lord · #93 04-11-2012, 04:40 AM

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Funny how so many racists are on this site when the owner is a black man.

I don't reject something just because it's originated or ran by another race. It's a common misconception that we racists are this way, and we are not.
There is actually a word for such behavior, but I don't recall what it is at the moment.

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You people act like a bunch of twelve year olds dishing out what your racist grandpa said.

My racism comes from 30+ years of living among other races.

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This aint the fifties anymore. Get with the times.

Sounds to me like you're the one who's having a problem grasping the status quo.

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Racism from either side promotes hatrid and hostility.

Sure, it's that way with some people, but more often than not this is not true. I certainly hate Jews and Communists, but not because of their race. It's because of what they do and what they stand for.
There is a reason behind racism, you just think it's blind hatred because that's what you've been taught to believe your whole life. No one has ever sat you down and told you what's what.

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If you really want these "niggers" to act like moral good citizens then treat them like one.

Okay, go find your nearest black gang and treat them like moral good citizens. Keep us updated on how that works out.

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They are not beneath you. You people are idiots for thinking that.

Why? Many of them are very far beneath me. It's not what I think, it's just fact. I wouldn't say it's in every detail. One guy might be stronger than me, but then, he may also be a rapist and have an IQ of 60 as well.
There is nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade.

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And tacho you're a cool guy but I really think you're just egging them on.

Dread_Lord · #94 04-11-2012, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

I'm just trying to see how far they'll bend over backwards to justify the death of an unarmed kid simply because of his ethnicity. So far, we've several new limbo champions.

No you're not. You tried to argue that Trayvon was an innocent unarmed kid who did nothing wrong and you were proven wrong in every count by several people. Now you're using the tired old "oh i'm just trying to see <enter excuse here>" argument to try and appear like you're not as fucking hopelessly stupid as you actually are.

Tachosomoza · #95 04-11-2012, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland

The only even somewhat reliable testimony indicates that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman, laying into him when he was shot. We don't know that Zimmerman was aggressive, we don't know that he approached with his gun drawn. For all we know he asked "do you live around here" and Trayvon started punching him.

There's nothing but hearsay as to how it got to that point. There's nothing to indicate it was racially motivated, and yet you support the hordes of blacks blaming 'the man' and asking for vigilante 'justice'. NBC twisted the story and they just continue to eat it up.

He has a record of violence, and was fired from his job as a security guard because he threw a woman. He shouldn't have even had a license to carry a weapon in the first place.

Tachosomoza · #96 04-11-2012, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

No you're not. You tried to argue that Trayvon was an innocent unarmed kid who did nothing wrong and you were proven wrong in every count by several people. Now you're using the tired old "oh i'm just trying to see <enter excuse here>" argument to try and appear like you're not as fucking hopelessly stupid as you actually are.

Was he armed?

Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland · #97 04-11-2012, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

He has a record of violence, and was fired from his job as a security guard because he threw a woman. He shouldn't have even had a license to carry a weapon in the first place.

Fair as a reference of character and you may well be right about being allowed to carry a weapon, but it doesn't prove that he acted that way in this situation.

Dread_Lord · #98 04-11-2012, 04:49 AM

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Yeah Dread_Lord is a blind little faggot.

20/20, stop hating.

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Doesn't matter how you spin this thing, shooting someone because you're getting your ass kicked isn't justifiable especially in this case because Zim didn't even go to the hospital and the assulter was a fucking kid for christs sakes.

Trayvon used an attack that could have killed Zimmerman. You don't bash someones head into the ground unless you're trying to kill them. He also went for Zimmerman's gun. So, yeah, you're a retard.

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If Trayvon was 10 and broke this dudes noes because he was autistic and prone to tantrums Dread would still see his death justified simply because hes black.

He wasn't 10, though I think it could be argued that most niggers are mentally challenged. He was a drug dealer (on school grounds, no less) and a thug and he confronted Zimmerman (not the other way around) and assaulted him and was shot for it. It's self defense.

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What kind of faggot (one on the neighborhood watch at that) follows a suspected criminal and then when shit goes down can't defend himself? ... Especially against a fucking KID.

This "Fucking kid" was a drug dealer who embraced thug culture. He was also 160lbs @ 6' tall and played football.

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OMG this kid with his skittles and tea is going to kill me!! OH NOES!!

Let's see if you can say those words while I bash your head into the ground, break your nose, and then try to take your firearm.

1983 · #99 04-11-2012, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rodrat

The way I see it is people die. We all do eventually. I would love to see justice on the matter but to me it doesn't change anything. The situation is blown out of proportion. What America as a whole should focus on is our country bit we're worried about somelid no one ever knew. My 17 year old cousin was shot and killed by a group of black men wanting drug money last November. Where is his coverage. He made second page news in our local paper.

Trying to get that across but its been falling of deaf ears as people will only hear what they want to hear.

Even though I don't know you I'd have to say I'm sorry for your loss, It's never a good thing when people pass on before their time.

Hopefully your cousin finds his justice and peace.

Al

Dread_Lord · #**100** 04-11-2012, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland

Fair as a reference of character and you may well be right about being allowed to carry a weapon, but it doesn't prove that he acted that way in this situation.

See, this is another thing that I would have to explain to Tacho in explaining why he is stupid. He's just not capable of distinguishing shit like this.
Yes, Zimmerman's character is questionable, but it has nothing to do with proving that he acted wrongly in this case. He isn't on trial for how he acted years ago.

Dread_Lord · #**101** 04-11-2012, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Was he armed?

He was the second he tried to snatch Zimmermans gun.

Tachosomoza · #**102** 04-11-2012, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

20/20, stop hating.

Trayvon used an attack that could have killed Zimmerman. You don't bash someones head into the ground unless you're trying to kill them. He also went for Zimmerman's gun. So, yeah, you're a retard.

He wasn't 10, though I think it could be argued that most niggers are mentally challenged. He was a drug dealer (on school grounds, no less) and a thug and he confronted Zimmerman (not the other way around) and assaulted him and was shot for it. It's self defense.

Yeah, Martin sold pot. Plenty of suburban kids do it. That video of Zimmerman at the police station showed him unscathed.

It's just sickening, folks. If someone shot your son, imagine if they slander his memory, make up lies about him, and try to make him out to be the bad guy, simply because of his ethnicity. It's enough to go out and catch your own murder case.

WeaselKit · #**103** 04-11-2012, 04:54 AM

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Also, you've never met a 17 year old that could throw a punch? Seems kind of unlikely.

You ever see any 17 year old who could throw a punch so powerful it could be considered deadly force?

Didn't think so.

An ass kicking is an ass kicking, you're not going to fucking die.

WeaselKit · #**104** 04-11-2012, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dread_Lord

He was the second he tried to snatch Zimmermans gun.

In order for this to be true Zim would have to have had his gun drawn before the assault which he has no justifiable reason to have had it drawn prior to his "beating"

What the hell happened to escalation / equal force? You can't pull a gun even if you're in a fight in my state. Even showing that you have a gun gets you locked up.

1983 · #**105** 04-11-2012, 04:57 AM

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Okay, go find your nearest black gang and treat them like moral good citizens. Keep us updated on how that works out.

Poontah! - YouTube

Al

Dread_Lord · #**106** 04-11-2012, 05:01 AM

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Yeah, Martin sold pot. Plenty of suburban kids do it.

And they're all breaking the law, idiot. There is also evidence that Martin dealt in more than pot.

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That video of Zimmerman at the police station showed him unscathed.

That a fact?
Not only can you see the police officer checking the wound on the back of Zimmerman's head you can see the wound once zoomed in.

George Zimmerman Enhanced Police Video Shows Gashes on Back of Head - YouTube

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It's just sickening, folks. If someone shot your son, imagine if they slander his memory, make up lies about him, and try to make him out to be the bad guy, simply because of his ethnicity. It's enough to go out and catch your own murder case.

If my son sold drugs to high school kids and embraced thug culture I would disown him.

People aren't making him out to be a bad guy, people are POINTING OUT that he was a bad guy.

Michael Scott · #**107** 04-11-2012, 05:02 AM

It's so awkward hearing white people on TV say "Trayvon" with a straight face.

Dread_Lord · #**108** 04-11-2012, 05:04 AM

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In order for this to be true Zim would have to have had his gun drawn before the assault which he has no justifiable reason to have had it drawn prior to his "beating"

It was in his waistband.

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What the hell happened to escalation / equal force? You can't pull a gun even if you're in a fight in my state. Even showing that you have a gun gets you locked up.

You can in Florida. Different states have different laws.

Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland · #**109** 04-11-2012, 05:13 AM

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You ever see any 17 year old who could throw a punch so powerful it could be considered deadly force?

Didn't think so.

An ass kicking is an ass kicking, you're not going to fucking die.

http://www.gazettenet.com/2012/02/29...hoolyard-fight

It happens man. Not saying a single punch is going to put you down, but once you're down you're at their mercy. It wasn't an organised fight or anything like that, so I can see that he may have feared for his life.

Look at it this way, someone attacks you in an abandoned backstreet - are you confident that they're just going to leave you alone once you're down?

WeaselKit · #**110** 04-11-2012, 05:13 AM

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It was in his waistband.

You can in Florida. Different states have different laws.

So you're saying Trayvon seeing a guy with an unconcealed weapon, decided to follow him back to his car, confront him, punch him in the face, get on top of him, start bashing his head into the ground (the whole time the guy is supposedly screaming bloody murder) THEN went for the gun?

LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry · #**111** 04-11-2012, 05:14 AM

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muffins, shut the hell up and have another stroke. If you're serious.

That's fucked up. You should never wish something like that upon somebody. Just love, man.

Tachosomoza · #**112** 04-11-2012, 05:16 AM

Love for someone who supports a murderer? muffins is a nice guy, but he can be downright ignorant sometimes.

WeaselKit · #**113** 04-11-2012, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland

http://www.gazettenet.com/2012/02/29...hoolyard-fight

Look at it this way, someone attacks you in an abandoned backstreet

the path that trayvon waik - YouTube

Those abandoned backstreets of suburbia

Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland · #**114** 04-11-2012, 05:20 AM

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the path that trayvon waik - YouTube

Those abandoned backstreets of suburbia

It was an example, not a parable.

LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry · #**115** 04-11-2012, 05:24 AM

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Love for someone who supports a murderer? muffins is a nice guy, but he can be downright ignorant sometimes.

Love for all of your fellow humans. It's too easy to hate. That doesn't help anybody. It's easy to love those who love you in return. The real challenge is to love your (perceived) enemies. How can you teach anybody without love? It won't work.

Hatred and malevolent desires won't help anybody or make the world better in any way. You're working against your own message here, Tacho.

Tachosomoza · #**116** 04-11-2012, 05:25 AM

I don't consider muffins an enemy. He's not the brightest tool in the drawer, though.

LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry · #**117** 04-11-2012, 05:27 AM

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I don't consider muffins an enemy. He's not the brightest tool in the drawer, though.

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Hatred and malevolent desires won't help anybody or make the world better in any way. You're working against your own message here, Tacho.

His existence is a beautiful miraculous amazing thing, just like every other living creature's. You can't make the world a better place without first realizing that.

Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland · #**118** 04-11-2012, 05:30 AM

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His existence is a beautiful miraculous amazing thing, just like every other living creature's. You can't make the world a better place without first realizing that.

wow what the fuck are you on right now