Going to Med School for the lulz

[Rodrat]

My girlfriend is going to go to medical school after she is finished with graduate school. Thinking about going to OSU. Though I keep trying to talk her into the Caribbean.

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by Rodrat

My girlfriend is going to go to medical school after she is finished with graduate school.

I might end up doing that too...

Then again, I'll probably just settle into my graduate field.

But this whole 3-year thing is so tempting for some reason. As though that extra year was dissuading me from medical school this whole time.

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by a334jv2df

He did residency and now pretty much writes scripts for money.

Also on this note... Does anyone know if you can start writing prescriptions the day you graduate from med school?

[water bottle]

Originally Posted by p6867

http://www.hulu.com/watch/95442/30-r...edical-moments

"I'm a working physican, with a degree from the ho chi minh city school of medicine."

I don't get access to Hulu here, but Dr. Spaceman is the best thing about that show

Gadzooks - Note that Calgary has restricted places for out-of-province applicants.

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by water bottle

Gadzooks - Note that Calgary has restricted places for out-of-province applicants.

[JustinBieberz]

Originally Posted by gadzooks

Also on this note... Does anyone know if you can start writing prescriptions the day you graduate from med school?

No. You'll need to apply for a license first.

[Yurpen]

Itt: gadzooks goes to med school to write himself prescriptions for narcotics

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by JustinBieberz

No. You'll need to apply for a license first.

Is that an easy process?

Originally Posted by Yurpen

Itt: gadzooks goes to med school to write himself prescriptions for narcotics

[Actor]

Whats lulzy about goin to med school? Maybe if u become a dick-specialist?

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by Actor

Whats lulzy about goin to med school? Maybe if u become a dick-specialist?

Or a proctologist.

"Alright, patient, I'm going to need you to turn around and do a goatse."

(Seriously though, that job would really, really suck).

[HampTheToker]

gadzooks- "Alright, patient, I'm going to need you to turn around and do a goatse."

Arleybob- "gadzooks? Is that you? Doctor/patient privilege still applies right?"

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

gadzooks- "Alright, patient, I'm going to need you to turn around and do a goatse."

Arleybob- "gadzooks? Is that you? Doctor/patient privilege still applies right?"

I think there's a clause in the Dr/Patient confidentiality contract that states that a scenario that would produce lulz of a sufficient quantity would warrant breaching it.

[Optionryder420]

Originally Posted by gadzooks

However, I would have to take some organic chemistry courses as prerequisites to get into med school in the first place.

Wait...

You haven't even taken organic chemistry but you're making a post about going to Med School?

What are your current scholastic credentials?

[Yurpen]

Originally Posted by Optionryder420

Wait...

You haven't even taken organic chemistry but you're making a post about going to Med School?

What are your current scholastic credentials?

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by Optionryder420

Wait...

You haven't even taken organic chemistry but you're making a post about going to Med School?

What are your current scholastic credentials?

I'm about to grad with a B.A.

I've taken some first year bio and chem courses. I would just need to spend a little extra time taking some biochem and o chem classes, possibly physics as well, at least if I want to do well on the MCAT.

It's not a huge hurdle by any means.

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by Yurpen

I can make my way to about P. I sometimes have trouble with Q though.

Alfabets r hard, yo.

[Yurpen]

Originally Posted by gadzooks

I can make my way to about P. I sometimes have trouble with Q though.

Alfabets r hard, yo.

yooll lurn soon

[The Explanation]

Originally Posted by Optionryder420

Wait...

You haven't even taken organic chemistry but you're making a post about going to Med School?

What are your current scholastic credentials?

This. Take organic then come back and still say you want to go to med school "for the lulz."

I'm probably going to pull off an A in it this semester, but...shit's no laughing matter. It will own your life. Assuming you go to a halfway decent uni.

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by The Explanation

Assuming you go to a halfway decent uni.

I'd rather go to a shitty uni then if it would mean I'd get a higher grade more easily.

It all gets scored the same way by admissions departments anyway.

[The Explanation]

Originally Posted by gadzooks

I'd rather go to a shitty uni then if it would mean I'd get a higher grade more easily.

It all gets scored the same way by admissions departments anyway.

Not really. You're not going to get into a good med school going to a shitty uni for undergrad. Med school in general, maybe. But a good med school, definitely not.

EDIT: They're also probably going to look at your score on the ACS final. My class last year made on average in the 92nd percentile.

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by The Explanation

Not really. You're not going to get into a good med school going to a shitty uni for undergrad. Med school in general, maybe. But a good med school, definitely not.

I'm pretty sure all good med schools have a quantifiable coding system that they use to weight applicants on different measures. And I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't be able to quantifiably code a weight for prestige of school.

At least I presume that to be the case.

Originally Posted by The Explanation

EDIT: They're also probably going to look at your score on the ACS final. My class last year made on average in the 92nd percentile.

I'm from Canada, eh?

Yeah, I don't think we have ACS here. I could be wrong though.

And anyway, the MCAT is pretty standardized, so I could always use that to compare to others.

[kervin]

I was pre med for a stretch, but decided to enter research instead after realizing the life sacrifices that doctors make for their careers. Most of your life will revolve around work as a doctor. Getting into med school is going to require many clinical hours, years of research, tons of extra curriculars, high GPA, and high MCAT. This isn't that hard at all( I actually did it, I know), and almost everyone makes it through med school, so the real challenge begins after med school when you start your residency. It is almost a philosophical question at this point: what do you want out of life. If you want to be able to brag about being a doctor, don't do it. If you want to devote most of your waking hours to medicine, do it. It took me three years to realize I just wanted to brag about being a doctor.

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by kervin

It is almost a philosophical question at this point: what do you want out of life. If you want to be able to brag about being a doctor, don't do it. If you want to devote most of your waking hours to medicine, do it.

True dat.

I wouldn't even dare consider it if I didn't have at least some (actually, a fair bit of) intrinsic motivation.

But I'll admit that some extrinsic motivators are pretty powerful.

For instance, I'd make at least double what I'll end up making if I go the grad school / research route. That's pretty tempting.

[kervin]

Research has its own reward too though. Its hard to see as an undergrad, but you will eventually be doing something nearly everyday that has never been done before. Then you can tell all your friends about it and get this look in return

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by kervin

Research has its own reward too though. Its hard to see as an undergrad, but you will eventually be doing something nearly everyday that has never been done before. Then you can tell all your friends about it and get this look in return

Fo sho. I definitely see huge (intrinsic) benefits when it comes to research.

That's most likely the direction I'm heading. This whole med school idea is kind of... a pipe dream, maybe?

But I'm not ruling it out entirely yet.

[The Explanation]

Originally Posted by gadzooks

I'm pretty sure all good med schools have a quantifiable coding system that they use to weight applicants on different measures. And I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't be able to quantifiably code a weight for prestige of school.

At least I presume that to be the case.



I'm from Canada, eh?

Yeah, I don't think we have ACS here. I could be wrong though.

And anyway, the MCAT is pretty standardized, so I could always use that to compare to others.

Ah you're probably right about the ACS then. I do think they still care about the prestige of your school, though. I mean, at any major uni you can probably get in but not from some community college or something. The impression that I get is that there's a lot more to it than just some formula they use. I'm sure there's a formula where they cut everyone below certain stats, but beyond that, it's a case-by-case thing.

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by The Explanation

Ah you're probably right about the ACS then. I do think they still care about the prestige of your school, though. I mean, at any major uni you can probably get in but not from some community college or something. The impression that I get is that there's a lot more to it than just some formula they use. I'm sure there's a formula where they cut everyone below certain stats, but beyond that, it's a case-by-case thing.

This is something I've always wondered about.

I have my guesses about how it works, and you seem to have your own, but the only people who could tell us for sure would be admissions people.

From what I've read on student doctor and premed forums, most med schools seem to not weigh different schools differently. But then how do these posters know this stuff? I don't know how they know or if their sources are reliable.

[The Explanation]

Originally Posted by gadzooks

This is something I've always wondered about.

I have my guesses about how it works, and you seem to have your own, but the only people who could tell us for sure would be admissions people.

From what I've read on student doctor and premed forums, most med schools seem to not weigh different schools differently. But then how do these posters know this stuff? I don't know how they know or if their sources are reliable.

Yeah you're right. My guesses are based on what the premed adviser for our school says, and he's a retired M.D. who talks with admissions people. But of course he's going to say that my school gets people into better med schools since that's where his paycheck comes from.

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by The Explanation

Yeah you're right. My guesses are based on what the premed adviser for our school says, and he's a retired M.D. who talks with admissions people. But of course he's going to say that my school gets people into better med schools since that's where his paycheck comes from.

I wouldn't totally discount his credibility because of that. He may be right.

I have no idea for sure.

I wonder if admissions people at med schools would answer this kind of question (truthfully) over the phone to just anyone...?

I would maybe try calling a few personally... Maybe.

[Optionryder420]

Originally Posted by gadzooks

I'm about to grad with a B.A.

I've taken some first year bio and chem courses. I would just need to spend a little extra time taking some biochem and o chem classes, possibly physics as well, at least if I want to do well on the MCAT.

It's not a huge hurdle by any means.

What is your BA in? I am also about to graduate with a BA and have also taken first year bio and chem courses, but I'm in no way, shape, or form near going to Med School.

Have you taken Calc I and II? You will also need those.

I think you may be trying to bite off more than you can chew. The classes you mentioned are probably the hardest classes you will take. Organic Chem and Biochem are no laughing matter, you don't only have to pass, but to get into med school you will need to pass with high scores. The MCAT as well is no laughing matter, it will probably be the hardest test of your life.

[Optionryder420]

Originally Posted by gadzooks

I'd rather go to a shitty uni then if it would mean I'd get a higher grade more easily.

It all gets scored the same way by admissions departments anyway.

Man, you may want to do a lot more serious research besides reading the student doctor forums.

I hope you have a lot of extra curricular activities, a high GPA, high MCAT score, etc. They look for the WHOLE package when it comes to med school, also, it does help to be a minority, so if you're white, expect the deck to be stacked against you. My white girlfriend applied to every Pharmacy school in Florida, 3.7 GPA or so, 75 PCAT, TONS of extra curricular activities along with volunteer work, 3 years as a pharmacy tech, outstanding recommendations from well connected pharmacists, and many leadership positions. She got immediately accepted into quite a few schools, interviews at every school (along with quite a few that she didn't even finish the application at), but she didn't get her first choice, UF. Most spots are given to UF alumn or current students, the others are pretty much filled with minorities. We knew quite a few people that got into UF that didn't have NEARLY the stats that she had, they were minorities. She also applied as early as she could and had a BA in Biomedical science minor in Biophysics.

Let us know how you do, but don't put all your eggs in one basket. Like another person posted, it doesn't end at Med School, it only just begins there.

[reggie_love]

Originally Posted by water bottle

1. Go on a bus or a busy street at look at 20+ people.
2. Realize that on any given work day, as a doctor, you will have to poke, prod, and otherwise touch their bodies, including inside their orifices. You'll also have to play with all sorts of fluids their bodies produce.
3. Ask yourself if you still want to be a doctor.

That's misleading. There are so many different paths to take in medicine, so many don't even involve dealing with patients (research, administration, etc). What you're describing sounds more like nurses' line of work anyway (especially the fluids part).

But I do agree that too many people go to med school for the wrong reasons. It's not a "promising job," it's a great responsibility. You have to be willing (more accurately, strongly inclined) to accept a fiduciary duty to heal other human beings. It's not just some sweet position where you have to deal with people so you can get white collar pay. It's important shit and you have a moral responsibility to do a good and thorough job.

If you want to make money go into finance or something where people won't be maimed or killed because of your mistakes.

[water bottle]

Originally Posted by reggie_love

That's misleading.

No it isn't. It's true that not every doctors spends his day poking people's assholes, but the 'gross factor' of medicine should not be understated. The point stands: if you're not prepared to do nasty things with gross bodies, you shouldn't be a doctor. If you can do it, though, there are certainly some very exciting fields of research that don't require probing gross people.

[The"Her0-in"me]

I was actually going to be a m.d. But got divorced in the middle of my schooling, and lost the drive, and now I'm a bartender... 6 years later.... Wow, been a lot longer than I had thought.

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by Optionryder420

What is your BA in?

Psychology.

Originally Posted by Optionryder420

I am also about to graduate with a BA and have also taken first year bio and chem courses, but I'm in no way, shape, or form near going to Med School.

Have you taken Calc I and II? You will also need those.

I think you may be trying to bite off more than you can chew. The classes you mentioned are probably the hardest classes you will take. Organic Chem and Biochem are no laughing matter, you don't only have to pass, but to get into med school you will need to pass with high scores. The MCAT as well is no laughing matter, it will probably be the hardest test of your life.

I realize that it would not be an easy path by any stretch of the imagination. I acknowledge the challenges that would lie ahead of me if I choose this career trajectory.

Originally Posted by Optionryder420

Man, you may want to do a lot more serious research besides reading the student doctor forums.

I hope you have a lot of extra curricular activities, a high GPA, high MCAT score, etc. They look for the WHOLE package when it comes to med school, also, it does help to be a minority, so if you're white, expect the deck to be stacked against you. My white girlfriend applied to every Pharmacy school in Florida, 3.7 GPA or so, 75 PCAT, TONS of extra curricular activities along with volunteer work, 3 years as a pharmacy tech, outstanding recommendations from well connected pharmacists, and many leadership positions. She got immediately accepted into quite a few schools, interviews at every school (along with quite a few that she didn't even finish the application at), but she didn't get her first choice, UF. Most spots are given to UF alumn or current students, the others are pretty much filled with minorities. We knew quite a few people that got into UF that didn't have NEARLY the stats that she had, they were minorities. She also applied as early as she could and had a BA in Biomedical science minor in Biophysics.

That is kind of scary, I'll admit.

I would definitely apply at a bunch of different schools, just in case.

But anyway, the Caribbean school tract seems at least somewhat less daunting.

Originally Posted by reggie_love

But I do agree that too many people go to med school for the wrong reasons. It's not a "promising job," it's a great responsibility. You have to be willing (more accurately, strongly inclined) to accept a fiduciary duty to heal other human beings. It's not just some sweet position where you have to deal with people so you can get white collar pay. It's important shit and you have a moral responsibility to do a good and thorough job.

If you want to make money go into finance or something where people won't be maimed or killed because of your mistakes.

I agree that going to med school strictly for the money is a horrible idea, and not to mention possibly unethical as well.

That being said, though, if it comes down to choosing between med school and a research/academic career, then the money factor becomes relevant. Knowing that I could make double what I'd be making doing similar work, just without the clinical aspect, is a bit irksome.

[Optionryder420]

Originally Posted by gadzooks

Psychology.

Okay, now I know this is a joke.

You plan on going from one of the EASIEST majors to Med School?

And you plan on doing it for the "lulz"?

Dude, don't even attempt to waste your time because seriously, you are NOT going to make it. My girlfriend even says you shouldn't waste your time or your money.

What is the hardest class you've even taken? What is your current GPA?

You have absolutely NO idea what you're thinking about doing.

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by Optionryder420

Okay, now I know this is a joke.

What's your major, then?

Originally Posted by Optionryder420

What is the hardest class you've even taken? What is your current GPA?

You have absolutely NO idea what you're thinking about doing.

I'm not even going to indulge you on these questions...

Only an idiot takes the concept of easy vs hard majors seriously. Once you get into the upper level courses, things are totally different.

I can't wait to hear what your major is/was...

[vnorberto]

optionryder has a BA in faggotry.

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by vnorberto

optionryder has a BA in faggotry.

He must have graduated with about a dozen good reference letters.

(That joke was for when you said his BA was in cocksucking. Now it doesn't make as much sense).

[bortmackie]

bullshit, i had to take calc 1 and 2 for psychology, as well as C++, statistics, etc. I'm not trying to say i'm some kind of biochemistry major or something, but saying it's an 'easy' major is a bunch of bullshit. People are good at different things, and different fields have their own difficulties.