History of Mind Control - What We Can Prove And What We Cant

[Zanick]

Originally Posted by tuer502gt

The acid testing wasn't that widespread and you are relying on anecdotal evidence to back your claims up.

It was, and still is, anti Western infiltration of the health system and then trying to pass it off as government sanctioned.

Look at the percentage of foreign psychiatrists, and then look at the statistics of how many of them are Islamic, Chinese or Eastern European.

Then look at infiltration of the mental health system by other fringe groups such as organised crime, other terrorist organisations eg Tamil Tigers, Communist terrorists eg IRA, ETA, FARC and militant gays,
lesbians and environmentalists.

It's all anti government types using the MK ULTRA and anti psychiatry cause to their advantage,
rather than actually caring about you, they want to use you to destroy your country. Which is a shame because psychiatry has a lot to answer for.

It's pretty obvious when you look at the statistics.

How is it anecdotal evidence? I have no experience with government testing, I cannot possibly share anecdotes. The CIA performed the tests because they wanted to get ahead of Russia and other nations during the Cold War, this much is documented. You have no legitimate proof that points to enemy infiltration of this sect of government leading to MK-ULTRA, you're just harboring blind faith that our government would never do something bad unless communists were behind it. America is not the good guy beset upon by evil, this is the real world we're talking about here. Countries are run by ruthless, cutthroat bastards, and that's how they got to the top. Our government has done some awful shit, just like any other, and your fantasy leaves them completely unaccountable.

[tuer502gt]

If the CIA was run by horrible people America would be a horrible country without millions of people wanting to move there or claim asylum there.

The intelligence agencies are no way controlled by evil people. They're not gangsters or cops.

[Obbe]

Originally Posted by tuer502gt

The intelligence agencies are no way controlled by evil people.

They are controlled by people who desire to control others.

[sepht]

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

I thought trephining was used to relieve head pressure, not removing evil spirits. Do you have any other source that makes this claim?

its an early form of lobotomy actually

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Obbe

Minds can be influenced in a variety of ways. The only way to ensure you do not fall victim to mind control is to become mindless.

That means you're immune to mind control.

[tuer502gt]

Originally Posted by Obbe

They are controlled by people who desire to control others.

they won't try and control you if you don't need to be. Eg, if you aren't planning to be violently subversive or in support of those who are or something similar, then they won't bother with you. There are too many people out there to try and do that to.

Also if you were the type of person who desired extreme control and were megalomaniacal you wouldn't pass the psych tests so easily for such a job, as you would be a danger to the organisation.

People like that work in mental health, couples therapy, advertising and marketing, organised crime, police forces etc.

Or they join the Freemasons.

Not intelligence agencies.

[Obbe]

Originally Posted by tuer502gt

they won't try and control you if you don't need to be. Eg, if you aren't planning to be violently subversive or in support of those who are or something similar, then they won't bother with you. There are too many people out there to try and do that to.

Also if you were the type of person who desired extreme control and were megalomaniacal you wouldn't pass the psych tests so easily for such a job, as you would be a danger to the organisation.

People like that work in mental health, couples therapy, advertising and marketing, organised crime, police forces etc.

Or they join the Freemasons.

Not intelligence agencies.

They will try to control anyone simply to see if they can.

Why do you think you know anything at all about how intelligence agencies operate?

[tuer502gt]

I could ask you the same question.

If they were like that you would be living in a 1984 type scenario.

[Obbe]

Originally Posted by tuer502gt

I could ask you the same question.

If they were like that you would be living in a 1984 type scenario.

Yeah. Are you saying we're not?

[tuer502gt]

Yes. It is clearly not a 1984 or Communist situation we have. Because you can freely dissent in public or online without hiding your identity and not fear reprisals.

[Obbe]

Originally Posted by tuer502gt

Yes. It is clearly not a 1984 or Communist situation we have. Because you can freely dissent in public or online without hiding your identity and not fear reprisals.

Why are so many concerned about their anonymity? Why do the feds want to spy on their citizens?

[tuer502gt]

Maybe they're paranoid or victims of mass hysteria?

They won't spy on you if you aren't deemed a threat. It takes a lot of resources to spy on everyone. It's not feasible.

[nshanin]

"If I Wanted America To Be A Dictatorship" - YouTube

"If I Wanted America To Be A Dictatorship" - YouTube
Video: click to display

[nshanin]

Every piece of communication in the US is monitored by computer, the NSA is building a massive data center that will eat the power of a city so that it can decrypt communications and store them indefinitely. A few years ago the rationale was "it's to find the terrorists", and now it's "so what?"

[Haiti's Space Agency]

Originally Posted by Obbe

They are controlled by people who desire to control others.

Such as yourself

[tuer502gt]

There is a massive difference between being logged and monitored.

[moron]

Originally Posted by tuer502gt

There is a massive difference between being logged and monitored.

Obviously it's not worth their time to monitor some dumb kids talking about smoking weed and silly philosophical shit on a website associated with petty crime; personally I don't feel threatened.

However when there are hundreds of billions of dollars we don't have pouring into agencies that haven't been proven to stop threats, you really have to wonder how much oversight there is and who's calling the shots behind the scene. Beyond that we have the black budget.... it's just politicians throwing money around with corporations and they both profit immensely by exploiting governmental power. Given their track record there's no way such a system won't be abused.

[tuer502gt]

If we were aware of how that money was spent then so would the enemy and it would help them plan against us.

How do you know that all the money goes where they say it does? It could be a ruse to throw the scent off throw the fact the money is being used for weapon design or development that is top secret instead of a new antenna.

Like look at Commanche helicopters. As if they got canned and aren't instead used by some secret unit.

[White Jesus]

Originally Posted by nshanin

"If I Wanted America To Be A Dictatorship" - YouTube

Lololol lisp, Anything he says is automatically invalid