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Default how would one make a small-scale shake n bake of methamphetamine?

with few smells, chemicals, procedures, ect.
only hypothetically planning on 1-3 doses so id like it to be very simple

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Default Re: how would one make a small-scale shake n bake of methamphetamine?

i found this, but im not sure if its the best way

this is supposed to be the "shake n bake" popular method of making meth . it seems like this is for real .

can u just reply with a yes or no regarding the authenticity of this??? sorry if im botherin but i found this somewhere i am not the author of this
i just want to find out of this is legit? this is a copy paste from bombshock this is not my shit .

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**WARNING**
Combining these chemicals can result in fire, explosion, injury, death, or arrest. I do NOT use illicit narcotics, nor do I condone the use of illicit

narcotics. This post is for informational purposes only. I take no responsibility for anyone who misuses this information and blows themself up, burns down a

structure, or gets arrested. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME.

****DO NOT DO THIS INDOORS****

Now, on with the show.

You will need:

Hardware

2 2-liter bottles (Clean & dry, with lid)
1 1-liter bottle (Clean & dry, with lid)
1 20oz bottle (Clean & dry, with lid)
Approx 18" aquarium tubing
Needle-nosed pliers
Small pipecutter (Or snips)
Measuring cups (1/3 and 1 cup size)
Funnel
Small tupperware container with lid
Baggies
Utility knife or razorblade
Coffee filters

Ingredients

1. 1/3 cup Ammonium Nitrate (Get by cutting open cold packs. It's the little white balls. Be careful what you buy, some cold packs are ammonium nitrate-free.

Other materials can be used, but we're going to do it this way.)

2. 1/2 cup 100% Lye (aka Sodium Hydroxide. Available at hardware stores in the drain cleaner section. - Drano Crystals, or any other powdered lye works)

3. 3 cups Coleman Camp Fuel (Engine starting fluid [diethyl ether], or VM&P naphtha can also be used)

4. 3x Lithium strips (Get by cutting open Energizer AA Lithium batteries - This YOUTUBE tutorial video shows EXACTLY how to get your Lithium strips)
YouTube - Get Lithium Metal From an Energizer Battery


5. 100ml NP solvent of your choice (Xylene or MEK is recommended - easily found at your local hardware store in the paint section)

6. 3-4 boxes 120mg 12-hour pseudoephedrine HCl (PSE). The highest count you can find. (Sudafed or a generic equivalent. MAKE SURE PSE IS THE ONLY ACTIVE

INGREDIENT.)

7. about 1/3 cup iodized salt

8. 4 capfuls sulfuric acid (Available as liquid drain cleaner.) OR muriatic acid (Also sold at hardware stores)

9. Denatured alcohol or Isopropyl alcohol

10. 1/8 cup of distilled water (Poland Spring or any bottled water can also be used)

Prep

1. Take the 20oz lid and cut a hole in it big enough to fit the aquarium tubing. It should be snug.

2. Cut one of the 2-liters in half. Discard the top.

3. Crush the pills into a fine powder. Use a coffee grinder, blender, or if worse comes to worse, hand crush them with a pair of pliers or something. Put the

powder into a baggie. The beauty of "shake n bake" is you don't have to clean your pills to extract PSE. Just crush and toss in!

4. Measure out and crush the ammonium nitrate (optional). If it is dry enough, go ahead and crush it. Not important that you do this, though. It helps ensure

even cooking, but is not imperative. Put it in a baggie.

5. Measure out the lye. Be careful not to touch this stuff. It eats anything organic (YOU) and also reacts with metal. Put in a baggie.

6. Measure out the Coleman fuel or Naphtha. Put it into the 1-liter.

7. Cut open the batteries. You must do this quickly because lithium reacts with moisture in air and will become hot, possibly catching fire if it is very

humid outside. Use the pipecutter to cut the outer housing of the battery. Use the needle nosed pliers to peel down the housing to expose the strip. There

will be a black strip in between 2 pieces of paper. This is the one you want. BE CAREFUL. LITHIUM STRIPS MAKE A SPARK WHEN THEY COME INTO CONTACT WITH METAL.

DO NOT TOUCH THE STRIP WITH YOUR BARE HANDS IF YOU CAN AVOID IT. DO NOT GET IT WET!!!!! Once you get the strip out of the battery, it can be stored in

denatured alcohol, and will no longer react with air as long as it is capped. Lithium strips burn VIOLENTLY when they come into contact with water. Be

CAREFUL!! Here is the how-to video again YouTube - Get Lithium Metal From an Energizer Battery


Go time

1. Pour the ammonium nitrate into the 2-liter bottle (the one you didnt cut in half).
2. Add pills. Shake up to mix them together.
3. Add your 100ml Xylene or MEK solvent


At this point, you will see the ingredients starting to react, it will produce bubbles in the bottom.

4. Add the lithium strips. Take them out of the denatured alcohol, tear them into smaller pieces, and add them to the mixture.
5. Add your lye MAKING SURE to cover your Lithium strips.
6. Add the 1/4 cup of water. The water kicks off the reaction, but YOU MUST GET THE CAP ON IMMEDIATELY AFTER ADDING THE WATER. Remember Lithium reacts

intensely with water and is potentially dangerous. The lithium-water reaction at normal temperatures is brisk but not violent, though the hydrogen produced

can ignite. Do not add the water if your Lithium has not been buried and is UNDER YOUR LYE.
7. Add the Coleman fuel or Naphtha to this mixture.

The mixture will be rolling now (it will look like it's boiling real hard). NOW THIS IS THE TRICKY AND MOST IMPORTANT PART: The reaction builds up necessary

pressure inside the bottle, don't worry - you will need to let this react WITH THE CAP ON for at least 2 minutes. Let the Lithium do it's thing for a full

120 seconds. Venting or releasing pressure within the first 2-3 minutes will greatly affect your final yield. After 2 or 3 minutes you will see the Lithium

starting to get smaller, shriveling up into small Bronze foil looking balls with holes throughout. This is when you MUST VENT by slightly unscrewing the cap

to release the gas.

***AFTER THE LITHIUM TURNS BRONZE MAKE SURE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE PRESSURE INSIDE THE BOTTLE! IT CAN EASILY BUILD UP QUICKLY AND EXPLODE IF NOT VENTED

PROPERLY!***

You can gently swirl (not shake!) the bottle side-to-side if you want, you don't have to. Swirling can only help the reaction.

Be careful! The gas coming out of the bottle is straight ammonia. Do not breathe it and keep it away from your eyes. AVOID KEEPING THE CAP OFF OR VENTING THE

BOTTLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

You may have to add more lye throughout the process to keep the mixture rolling. Once every 20 mins or so. You may not have to, though. If you do, add about

half of the amount as in the beginning, and do it quickly.

For at least 45 minutes keep venting and swirling the mixture until it stops rolling and you have hard whitish balls (called bones) in the bottom of the

bottle. This is a signal that the reaction is over. Let the contents react until you notice the whitish balls - sometimes will take 1-2 hours. Put a cotton

ball in the funnel hole and 2 coffee filters over and filter the liquid into the 2-liter (the one you cut in half). Dispose of the trash accordingly. Use

caution, the bottle and trash are noticeable waste items. Try to dispose of it in different locations. The trash can still be fingerprinted. USE YOUR HEAD.

Gassing the liquid

Now that the dangerous part is over, on to the DOPE!

All ready smelling success? wait and see.

****This is a smelly and violent process so you should do it outside if possible.****

**WARNING**
***HCl GAS IS NASTY STUFF AND WILL RUST ANYTHING IN SIGHT! Make sure your tubing is completely airtight because you do not want leaks!****

Take the 20oz bottle and put about 1/3 cup salt in it. Add 4 capfuls of sulfuric acid (or muriatic acid) and put on the lid you made with the aquarium

tubing. Make sure it's tight. This is your gassing gizmo. Put the end of the hose just under the surface of the liquid and squeeze the gas into it. You will

see the meth dropping or "snowing" to the bottom of the liquid. Such a beautiful sight. Pull out the hose and let the 20oz fill back up with gas again.

Repeat this until the meth stops dropping as much. Filter the powder out of the liquid. This process is known as a 'pull'. After the dope is filtered, you

can do up to 3 more pulls from the same liquid. Usually the second pull is the best (most product, highest quality). You will have to re-mix the salt and

sulfuric acid in the 20oz using fresh ingredients, because it won't last long. Make sure not to suck up any of the liquid into the 20oz, or you will have to

make a new one. The gas inside the 20oz is a bad little dude itself, so use a twist tie or a rubber band to keep the tube closed (fold it in half and tie

it).

That's it. Let the meth dry on the filters, scrape it off, and voila. You can even use the filters in drinks to get high. The highest the dinosaur's ever

been is off filters.

Note: Rinsing your meth with DRY ACETONE (dry your acetone by baking Epsom Salts at 400f for 4 hours, pour the baked epsom salts into your acetone container

and let sit overnight) If your meth burns leaving residue in your pipe and tastes nasty, a dual solvent recrystallization is highly recommended.





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No, it will not work, and if you try it you will almost certainly hurt yourself or someone else.
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You forgot the Chili Powder
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Default Re: how would one make a small-scale shake n bake of methamphetamine?

youre probably right
i might try making methcathinone with erowids recipe though seems pretty safe
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Default Re: how would one make a small-scale shake n bake of methamphetamine?

i can purchase 3.6 grams a day, and up to 9 a month.
so if i stay under the radar it shouldnt be a big deal
the 100 pills equates to 3 grams
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Default Re: how would one make a small-scale shake n bake of methamphetamine?

ammonium nitrate + lye = water + sodium nitrate + ammonia.

water + lithium = really hot hydrogen gas, and no way in hell is LiOH + H3NOH going to form any sort of reducing amide solvation.

Just... whip up a little HI and call it good. Your matchbook strikers will thank you.
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The recipe you found definitely works. These guys are just being pussies. I've seen it done.

Not to say that it's in any way safe, or that it will produce a quality product without some cleanup, but it does produce methamphetamine HCl.
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you need to know what you are doing to pull this off, you can get over your head in a flash
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The recipe you found definitely works. These guys are just being pussies. I've seen it done.

Not to say that it's in any way safe, or that it will produce a quality product without some cleanup, but it does produce unreacted pseudoephedrine.
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Did you read that synth?

"lithium ignites with water"

"lye and water makes hydrogen gas"

"put lithium and lye and water in a bottle and cap it"

wtf...
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Did you read that synth?

"lithium ignites with water"

"lye and water makes hydrogen gas"

"put lithium and lye and water in a bottle and cap it"

wtf...
Sounds like a nasty variant of a co2 bomb, not a meth lab.
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it works just goggle it!!!and see wetdreams,and you'll get a big hard ,,,,!bee careful ,swip !
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it works just goggle it!!!and see wetdreams,and you'll get a big hard ,,,,!bee careful ,swip !
That's odd, the only google results I'm getting are media hype. . .

Also, rumor has it that WD is down. I don't know though, they pruned off my account ages ago.
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Sup guys,

I'm brand new here, literally just opened the account. These forums are loaded with useful and interesting information.

With that said I need to ask a question for which I could not find a clear, concise answer to when searching the forums.

So the new [deleted] no longer contains Naptha so it cannot be used for SnB synthesis any longer correct?

Well, I know there must be alternatives to [deleted] fuel... I mean, I guess I could just buy the [deleted] but the cheapest can around here is about $16.

What else can be used in place of ?

Also, why would one need to use [deleted] (Methanol)? I understand it is useful for extracting pseudo from the actual pills (I think). Is that the only use or are there other uses? Can it be useful in Shake n' Bake?

Anyway, thanks in advance for anyone's help. I am a member of a few other forums on the net which I have been active in for a number of years AP I know what it's like when a brand new member creates an account to ask a question.

So again, thanks in advance!

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Sup guise, im new, im a cop, and i need info on reagents, so i can decide which to schedule next...

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LMAO, yeah dude, I'm a cop trolling the forums of the internet far and wide. Praying that that one moron will finally give me the ingredients list that is already well known by most of North America if you can read and/or are not deaf.

I knew someone would say some stupid shit simply because I'm brand new. Happens on every forum across the net. But whatevs, it was to be expected....

And no, actually I'm a Network Admin while I'm afk...errr....so to say. And if you're that worried about cops online you should certainly be using a VPN or at the absolute least a filtered, anonymous proxy.

But again, whatevs...

So I'm new, you've trolled me already. Now can someone please answer the question?

From what I've found one can use VM&P Naptha (or whatever it's called) or Coleman (in the red can) and that's about it now that Ronsonol can no longer be used.

Are there any other alternatives? Rather not spend $16+ on a can of Coleman if there's something cheaper.

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they dont even sell the v&p naptha......it got banned.......in several states, i thought it was a federal ban, but meh, who knows......

are you sure you are in the states bro?

but yeah, there is no substitutes, if you cant afford the 100$ price tag on this super half assed synthesis, then i suggest you give up....


i tried this synth, many times, and all i got was repeated fires, one of which resulted in severe damage to my house......

Ill just buy my drugs, thank you very much....


fucking around in sulfur puddles is no fun, i dont know what you see in it, i mean.....god, the smell alone will make you vomit....


p.s. use ice to cool the bottle if your doing the one pot method, it was the only time i ever got positive results....

in order for the lithium to reach a liquid state it has to reach like 200 psi, or like 40 psi, if the temperature is near freezing....

i submerged the whole vessel in an ice bath, and zipped it up in a duffle bag.....

just in case of explosions.......



good luck bro.....

but FYI, nobody is going to buy shake n bake even if you pull it off, which you wont, unless fire doesnt intimidate you.....


honestly your best option is to grab a few hundred dollars worth of labware and do the red phosphorus/iodine method.....

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Also, I've seen a synthesis for SnB listing Xylene as an ingredient along with Naptha or Coleman fuel and I've seen a synthesis which doesn't list Xylene.

Would the finished product come at a higher purity using the Xylene or is it about the same either way? I mean, what is the Xylene going to do differently? Higher yield, less harsh, more stable reaction?
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they dont even sell the v&p naptha......it got banned.......in several states, i thought it was a federal bain, but meh, who knows......

are you sure you are in the states bro?

but yeah, there is no substitutes, if you cant afford the 100$ price tag on this super half assed synthesis, then i suggest you give up....


i tried this synth, many times, and all i got was repeated fires, one of which resulted in severe damage to my house......

Ill just buy my drugs, thank you very much....


fucking around in sulfur puddles is no fun, i dont know what you see in it, i mean.....god, the smell alone will make you vomit....


p.s. use ice to cool the bottle if your doing the one pot method, it was the only time i ever got positive results....

in order for the lithium to reach a liquid state it has to reach like 200 psi, or like 40 psi, if the temperature is near freezing....

i submerged the whole vessel in an ice bath, and zipped it up in a duffle bag.....

just in case of explosions.......



good luck bro.....

but FYI, nobody is going to buy shake n bake even if you pull it off, which you wont, unless fire doesnt intimidate you.....


honestly your best option is to grab a few hundred dollars worth of labware and do the red phosphorus/iodine method.....

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Thanks for the response man... Yes, I'm in the states, I'm not sure about the VP&M stuff. Haven't checked in to it honestly. I'm side it's banned in my state if it has been banned in most already.

I already have everything ready to go, strips, crushed pseudo, crushed Ammonium Nitrate, Muriatic acid, Sodium Hydroxide and of course the bottles and tubing. However, I bought that stupid Ronsonol stuff yesterday. This was, of course, before I knew that Zippo bought them out and they just use their formula now.

I'm not even a meth head man, I really just wanted to do this to see if I could pull it off and to also see what the final product will look like. I know just the right peeps who will try it... I stick with opiates personally.

Anyway, so you say the ice bath makes a big difference eh? Dry ice or regular ice?

I wish I had a pressure valve I could attach to the bottle AP I would know when I've reached the optimum psi. But attaching a pressure gauge to a plastic bottle just seems stupid. If I were going to go to those lengths I would just cook it the old way that you mentioned with the proper equipment.

As long as I "burp" the bottle when I can no longer squeeze the bottle and make it flex I should be dine as far as explosions. I opened an extra battery and tested pieces of the strip in H2O. They fizzled away but I didn't see any sparks or flames. And there shouldn't be a molecule of H2O in my container.

Who knows, we'll see I guess... If I destroy my house or a portion of my property I will feel even more like an idiot than I do now for even wanting to try this. Lol!

Let's hope I don't get hurt I guess...

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Oh, and wouldn't an ice bath dramatically slow the reaction? Does the reaction need to go on longer than 45+ min if using an ice bath?
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honestly your best option is to grab a few hundred dollars worth of labware and do the red phosphorus/iodine method.....

BIRCH FTW.
IIRC shake n bake is the birch reduction method.

But yea like you said RP/I reduction is probably the best way to go.
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this thread will probably get closed, way too much information in one thread...
v&p naptha has been illegal for like 6-9 months my man, it just dissapeared from the shelves....

but ill continue until im instructed to stop.....



im talking about regular ice, not dry ice....

and yeah, it slows the reaction to a grinding halt, pretty much as soon as you submerge the bottle....

your best bet is to do 50% of the reaction, then put the bottle in the ice bath, quit burping it, and let it sit overnight....


then in the morning, come out, and unzip the duffel bag enough to let the top of the bottle out.....

stab the bottle with a knife, because the pressure from the bottle cap might hit you in the eye....

its no joke the shit that can happen, its down right scary...

one time i was using a metal thermos as a reaction vessel, but little did i know that the HCL i was using, which isnt even called for in the original recipe, melted the gasket that was keeping the solution together....

i pressed the button at the top of the reaction vessel and it did nothing, i was rocking it gently at the time, and it was bubbling intensely, so when the reaction just ceased for no reason i was stunned, no way was it done...

so i took off my goggles, and unzipped my hood, to inspect the vessel, and it exploded all over my face, and all over the house, it was intense.....

to this day there are green stains everywhere where the HCL ate through the fabric on my patio....

it was intense......


TIP: if you introduce HCL into the mix, make sure you do it after you add the lithium.....if not, well you know, explosions and such....
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IIRC shake n bake is the birch reduction method.

But yea like you said RP/I reduction is probably the best way to go.
sorry bro, i thot it was called the nazi method???

fuck the terminology though, its all about the tiny increments in your practice.....
anyways, just give up.........

but if you dont, ill be here to put ointment on your wounds....
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There's a lot of work and risk with the RP/I method. But I know that's where the better product would come from and in higher quantities as well. Who knows, if I catch myself on fire today I may try the RP/I. Although still dangerous, it has to be safer and more predictable than SnB.
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There's a lot of work and risk with the RP/I method. But I know that's where the better product would come from and in higher quantities as well. Who knows, if I catch myself on fire today I may try the RP/I. Although still dangerous, it has to be safer and more predictable than SnB.
The difference is, when your RP/I lab explodes, its not 5 inches from your face.


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Word, well I just know what I've researched and heard about. But anything to do with meth is generally bad. I'm find with my addies and percs. But, again, for the sake of trying, I'm doing this SnB thing today yo.
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I opened an extra battery and tested pieces of the strip in H2O. They fizzled away but I didn't see any sparks or flames. And there shouldn't be a molecule of H2O in my container.
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WTF???

You put a piece of lithium in dh20 and it just fizzled??

Maybe you need new batteries bro, it should look like fireworks, and sound like it too.....

When the lithium touches water, it SHOULD explode with enough force to shatter glass.......

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Word, well I just know what I've researched and heard about. But anything to do with meth is generally bad. I'm find with my addies and percs. But, again, for the sake of trying, I'm doing this SnB thing today yo.
all i can say is good luck brosef.....

its hard work, i quit trying when i developed an abnormal growth on my face.....
MY FACE!!!!


i thought it was a cancer or something, and its not like im going to go to the doctor and say
"check this out, i found it on my face while i was sifting through chemical waste with my bare hands"


in this i think you will find some justice, acquire a fumehood or an adequate h20gas mask

otherwise, death from absorbtion of sulfur compounds/ phosphene gas is immanent
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Yup, just fizzled and dissolved into nothingness.... But I was only dropping in a small piece at a time. And Ye@, the batteries are used up Ultimate Lithium. :-/ So I can't cut that corner eh?

And your face, are you for real? Lol!

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Yup, just fizzled and dissolved into nothingness.... But I was only dropping in a small piece at a time. And Ye@, the batteries are used up Ultimate Lithium. :-/ So I can't cut that corner eh?

And your face, are you for real? Lol!
yeah, im for reals yo....

it was all over my face, in my eyes and what not.....
and this is the pure undiluted HCL that was available back in the day, i found it in my next door neighbors garage.....

right next to a huge tin of colemans fuel....

he was a big camper....


but yeah, you DEFINITELY cant cut that corner, you have to use fresh batteries bro, they cant be used, lol, this is the catalyst, ammirite??

you cant just have an inactive thrown in there, lol.....

when you put a tiny sliver of the foil into h20 it should explode, it should be very loud, and you should be able to see it visually....
even if you only put a tiny tiny speck, it should be very loud, and very bright, like pyrotechnics....

when i did it, it oftentimes was such a loud/violent reaction, that it just made me want to put all my chems away....
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Those freaking batteries are expensive and a bitch to tear apart (unless you have that mini pipe cutter tool or whatever)
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But damn, if they have to be new then I guess I'll get new ones... :-/

And the explosion, was that with the thermos?
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Those freaking batteries are expensive and a bitch to tear apart (unless you have that mini pipe cutter tool or whatever)
All you need is a pair of wire cutters, if you cut at the right spot, you can just peel the whole shell off in one motion, though it usually took me 2-3 tries..

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But damn, if they have to be new then I guess I'll get new ones... :-/

And the explosion, was that with the thermos?
And yeah, the batteries are expensive, but one battery is like 3 feet of highly reactive lithium foil....
P.S. i never bought them, just fucking steal them bro, its like 15$ for 4 batteries, fuck that shit..


Its really a bargain even if you buy them tho, you are making METH here........

And yeah, the explosion was with a metal thermos, just use a gatorade bottle and you wont have any problems.....

they could probably hold 2-3x the pressure required, without ice....



but even with a 2 liter bottle you are looking at 250psi before structural collapse....
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Well I'm using a real shit recipie I found on here.

Only 1 box of pseudo.(20 pills)
8oz Coleman
3 tbsp Lye
3 tbsp Ammonium nitrate
2 lithium strips (should i only use one?)
Muriatic acid and foil for my HCl gas
Right now I have a 2-liter bottle, a 1-liter bottle and two mason jars to filter my cook off into.
This is the recipient that required the least materials and supposedly worked fairly well.

Be real with me man, is this even worth the time and effort? I mean, it will probably work as I'm somewhat of an amateur scientist and build rockets and shit with my own homemade propellent I make out of KNO3 and Fe2O3, among other things. So I'm careful and tend to be precise with measurements/weight.

Is that recipe worth a damn?
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