Google self-driving cars coming to Nevada

[White Jesus]

To me, someone who is too visually impaired to obtain a licence this is fucking exciting. Shame the cars will look space buggies.

[-SpectraL]

They would have to be complete imbeciles, not to mention blood-guilty, to put something like that on the road en-mass and not expect HUGE problems resulting in HUGE causalities. It's all great on paper, and it all looks neat as you please on a few idiot-proof tests, but put thousands, even hundreds, of those out there in force and there's going to be a hell of a lot of body bags on sale.

[mitchboy999]

Originally Posted by zuperxtreme

Source: http://www.pcworld.com/article/25520...a_streets.html

Pretty awesome that these cars are becoming a reality.

Wow, yeah. This kinda reminds me of 'I, Robot'. Cool

[Township Rebellion]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

People like you are holding humanity back. You want to hold on to shit that nobody cares about anymore or that is obsolete for emotional value. Let it go.

Fuck off.

I don't care if you don't care about driving, but how would you like it if the world banned your favoritest thing in the world to do?

Look just because you can't drive doesn't mean everybody should abandon driving. However, I wouldn't say no to progress, which is only why I'd accept them on the roads so long as their AI is good enough to handle human drivers. So long as it's possible for me to drive my car you can roll around in your gay little sofa on wheels all you want. If coexistence simply isn't possible then a solution will have to be reached. If it involves prohibition then you'll forever have gangs of outlaws building self-controlled hot rods in their garages, built to disturb the peace. They will never fully disappear.

[STEROS]

fuck that -- i want my car to fly.

[White Jesus]

Originally Posted by -SpectraL

They would have to be complete imbeciles, not to mention blood-guilty, to put something like that on the road en-mass and not expect HUGE problems resulting in HUGE causalities. It's all great on paper, and it all looks neat as you please on a few idiot-proof tests, but put thousands, even hundreds, of those out there in force and there's going to be a hell of a lot of body bags on sale.

Gotta thin out the population somehow

[cronic5]

I prefer to drive myself.

Although, some mornings I wake up, tired as fuck, and I wish my car could drive itself.

When I am drunk as hell, and I know I can't drive, I would much prefer to have my car drive me home instead of paying a taxi.

Good idea, but it better have manual override.

[-SpectraL]

Originally Posted by cronic5

...Good idea, but it better have manual override.

When you're traveling inside thousands of pounds of metal at speeds of 70-80 mph a manual override won't do you squat. You'd be crushed flatter than a bug on the wall under a flyswatter.

[Malice]

Imagine someone drunkenly entering the wrong address, passing out, and ending up halfway across the country. Oh, and what about pranks? Tie someone up, halfway across. Terrorism? Go into building, detonate. Killing people? Override/damage whatever would prevent it from hitting people and speed limiter, send it into a crowd during an event like Critical Mass or Occupy. Drug runs? Maybe the cartels will use their funds for some modifications.

This could have some interesting implications.

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

People like you are holding humanity back. You want to hold on to shit that nobody cares about anymore or that is obsolete for emotional value. Let it go.

You mean like communism?

[The Pat-Man]

Originally Posted by Malice

You mean like communism?

lol buuuuuuuuuuurnnnnnnnn

[cronic5]

Originally Posted by -SpectraL

When you're traveling inside thousands of pounds of metal at speeds of 70-80 mph a manual override won't do you squat. You'd be crushed flatter than a bug on the wall under a flyswatter.

Um, so the fuck what? I mean so that I can actually drive it when I want, not get out of an accident, you stupid fuck.

[-SpectraL]

Originally Posted by cronic5

Um, so the fuck what? I mean so that I can actually drive it when I want, not get out of an accident, you stupid fuck.

All I'm saying is that a manual override will be completely useless at that kind of speed, and I'm sure this car will be able to reach those speeds. To avoid a collision coming in from close range at the edge of the sensors with that kind of speed would take human control to avoid. Even a computer couldn't handle that kind of reaction time and necessary coordination. The human brain is billions of times more complex and sophisticated than even the most powerful computers we have today. No machine could ever better the human capability, nor will it ever. It's just plain logic, that's all. No insult intended. A manual override at that speed will not give you a chance in hell because the automated system would have ALREADY put a chain of events into play which could most probably then make recovery unattainable/uncorrectable by way of human control. That's all I'm saying.

[zuperxtreme]

Spec, stop pulling shit out of your ass.

"This car" is a damn Prius and here it is doing it's thing, as fast as it can:

Google's Ass-kicking Self-Driving Car - YouTube

Google's Ass-kicking Self-Driving Car - YouTube
Video: click to display

Seriously, gtfo with your trolling.

[mr.blunt]

because we need yet another way to make retards think theyre invincibly safe inside their cars while driving.

[-SpectraL]

Originally Posted by zuperxtreme

Spec, stop pulling shit out of your ass.

"This car" is a damn Prius and here it is doing it's thing, as fast as it can:

Google's Ass-kicking Self-Driving Car - YouTube

Seriously, gtfo with your trolling.

1. Your video shows no highway-speed test being done. Try 100 km/h.
2. The track is preset with easy navigation features.
3. No surprise hazards appear in the course of the run of the track.
^
All of these occur under real driving conditions. What we saw in your video does not. Sorry, man, but you're just plain wrong on this one.

[Rude Louis]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

People like you are holding humanity back. You want to hold on to shit that nobody cares about anymore or that is obsolete for emotional value. Let it go.

You're like the opposite of Rust. You just started off with a premise, added no data or logic, and then went in on an opinionated emotion filled monologue about something that you don't agree with personally.

Driving yourself is not obsolete. That's simply retarded. My reasons were all about personal-responsibility, personal accountability and personal freedom. This kind of technology would immediately be government legislated and subsequently have a high chance of abuse.

I usually agree with your posts, but in this instance, kindly fuck off.

[cronic5]

Originally Posted by -SpectraL

All I'm saying is that a manual override will be completely useless at that kind of speed, and I'm sure this car will be able to reach those speeds. To avoid a collision coming in from close range at the edge of the sensors with that kind of speed would take human control to avoid. Even a computer couldn't handle that kind of reaction time and necessary coordination. The human brain is billions of times more complex and sophisticated than even the most powerful computers we have today. No machine could ever better the human capability, nor will it ever. It's just plain logic, that's all. No insult intended. A manual override at that speed will not give you a chance in hell because the automated system would have ALREADY put a chain of events into play which could most probably then make recovery unattainable/uncorrectable by way of human control. That's all I'm saying.

But...I don't care. I actually enjoy driving. I'd likely only use the car to drive me when I am drunk, tired, or just want to play video games in my backseat.

[-SpectraL]

Originally Posted by cronic5

But...I don't care. I actually enjoy driving. I'd likely only use the car to drive me when I am drunk, tired, or just want to play video games in my backseat.

You enjoy dieing in a mangled wreak, too? Go for it.

[zuperxtreme]

As if people don't already die in mangled wreaks.

[is all mememememe with me]

this is actually a really interesting concept to think about tbh. the possibilities are endless. for 1, i wonder how long after this becomes the norm, it will be before we see completely driver-less vehicles on the road. for instance in haulage, big companies will hate the idea of paying drivers that literally sit there for nothing for the vast majority of the time and would push for driver-less. would people be able to send there car to pick up and drop off items? or run it to the shop on its own for a service?

some things malice said gave me some thoughts too. the fact that terrorists could remotely drive a bomb into a busy part of town. the cops would certainly use the idea of that to sell everyone on them having remote immobilization capabilities.

and also someone mentioned on cheaper vehicle insurance. i think what you saved on insurance would be spent on extra vehicle costs, things like regular servicing and parts. i mean think about when you buy a new computer or laptop. for the first 2 or 3 years its usually pretty good and you have little problems with it. then you gradually start to notice the odd bug or lag starting here and there. you couldn't afford such error on a vehicle, so i'm guessing you'll have to buy a whole new on board computer every year or two. i bet they wont be so cheap.

[roasted]

Originally Posted by -SpectraL

1. Your video shows no highway-speed test being done. Try 100 km/h.
2. The track is preset with easy navigation features.
3. No surprise hazards appear in the course of the run of the track.
^
All of these occur under real driving conditions. What we saw in your video does not. Sorry, man, but you're just plain wrong on this one.

Spectral, you are truly retarded. That video showed the car maxing out at 70 km/h over a course that is much more demanding than highway driving. If you had any understanding of embedded systems/sensors, then you realize that computers are much more capable than humans. In terms of accuracy and reaction time. Encoding fail-proof diagnostics is something extremely easy for a major car manufacturer or tech-firm to do.

Learn a little about the technology and contribute intelligent thought. Automous cars are nothing new, DARPA has been working on this for almost a decade.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driverless_car#History

stop being a conspiracy-loving, ultra-skeptical bitch motherfucker. You are about to be left in the dust you old fuck. Just like my 80 year old grandma that refuses to fly on airplanes.

[Leshrac]

Mind telling me how cops or other LE agencies will do to stop people if it's entirely replaced ?

Can't wait for bank robbers to outrun the pigs on bicycles because the cars will refuse "risky" moves.

[roasted]

Originally Posted by Leshrac

Mind telling me how cops or other LE agencies will do to stop people if it's entirely replaced ?

Can't wait for bank robbers to outrun the pigs on bicycles because the cars will refuse "risky" moves.

stupid question by a stupid motherfucker. Not worth my time to answer....

[is all mememememe with me]

Originally Posted by roasted

Spectral, you are truly retarded. That video showed the car maxing out at 70 km/h over a course that is much more demanding than highway driving. If you had any understanding of embedded systems/sensors, then you realize that computers are much more capable than humans. In terms of accuracy and reaction time. Encoding fail-proof diagnostics is something extremely easy for a major car manufacturer or tech-firm to do.

Learn a little about the technology and contribute intelligent thought. Automous cars are nothing new, DARPA has been working on this for almost a decade.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driverless_car#History

stop being a conspiracy-loving, ultra-skeptical bitch motherfucker. You are about to be left in the dust you old fuck. Just like my 80 year old grandma that refuses to fly on airplanes.

to be fair i watched a program a few months back that showed this exact car driving and it was out on the roads. and it did perform very well, altho i don't recall it going particularly fast. i'll see if i can find it, i know it had steven hawking presenting it(lol i know).

however one car performing well for the camera is a far cry from millions of them performing perfectly all day every day 24/7.

e: found it,brave new world. here's links if anyone wants to watch it. the first is probly geo-blocked to the UK tho

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/b...en-hawking/4od

Brave New World w/Stephen Hawking Episode 1: MACHINES - Full/HD - YouTube

Brave New World w/Stephen Hawking Episode 1: MACHINES - Full/HD - YouTube
Video: click to display

http://www.watchseries-online.eu/emb...3B1-+Episode+1

http://www.watchseries-online.eu/201...episode-1.html

[Leshrac]

Originally Posted by roasted

stupid question by a stupid motherfucker. Not worth my time to answer....

Watcha want nigga

I like fucking mothers btw

[curioushat]

These autodriving cars are incredibly efficient and will save loads of time.

Think about on the interstate, would there be a need for a speed limit at all? because all of the cars are aware of each other.

At a traffic light it will know if you're going straight, right, left, etc. and change accordingly.

In fact no need for traffic lights as cars will slipstream past each other at intersections...

Fewer crashes, due to the autonomous system's increased reliability compared to human drivers

Increased roadway capacity and reduce traffic congestion due to reduced need of safety gaps for example by platooning, and the ability to better manage traffic flow.

Optimization - autonomous cars could find the fastest way to go from one place to another, taking into account traffic congestion.

Reduce oil consumption and air pollution due to better manage traffic flow and by removing safety features.

Relief of vehicle occupants from driving and navigation chores.

Removal of constraints on occupant's state - it would not matter if the occupants were too young, too old or if their frame of mind were not suitable to drive a traditional car. Furthermore, disabilities would no longer matter.

Elimination of redundant passengers - humans are not required to take the car anywhere, as the robotic car can drive empty to wherever it is required.

Alleviation of parking scarcity as cars could drop off passengers, park far away where space is not scarce, and return as needed to pick up passengers.

It has been proposed that since cars spend 96% of their time idle, using autonomous cars could boostcar-sharing services such as Zipcar and Getaround, and thus reduce the number of vehicles worldwide.

Reduce the amount of space required for vehicle parking.

Reduce the costs and inconvenience of employing drivers (for example for public transport or commercial vehicles).

Since autonomous cars would not violate the law and would be less likely to cause traffic collision, traffic police and vehicle insurance could be reduced or eliminated.

Reduced need for road signage - autonomous cars could receive necessary communication electronically, meaning there would be no need for physical signs, line markings or the like.

[Rude Louis]

Originally Posted by curioushat

These autodriving cars are incredibly efficient and will save loads of time.

Think about on the interstate, would there be a need for a speed limit at all? because all of the cars are aware of each other.

At a traffic light it will know if you're going straight, right, left, etc. and change accordingly.

In fact no need for traffic lights as cars will slipstream past each other at intersections...

Fewer crashes, due to the autonomous system's increased reliability compared to human drivers

Increased roadway capacity and reduce traffic congestion due to reduced need of safety gaps for example by platooning, and the ability to better manage traffic flow.

Optimization - autonomous cars could find the fastest way to go from one place to another, taking into account traffic congestion.

Reduce oil consumption and air pollution due to better manage traffic flow and by removing safety features.

Relief of vehicle occupants from driving and navigation chores.

Removal of constraints on occupant's state - it would not matter if the occupants were too young, too old or if their frame of mind were not suitable to drive a traditional car. Furthermore, disabilities would no longer matter.

Elimination of redundant passengers - humans are not required to take the car anywhere, as the robotic car can drive empty to wherever it is required.

Alleviation of parking scarcity as cars could drop off passengers, park far away where space is not scarce, and return as needed to pick up passengers.

It has been proposed that since cars spend 96% of their time idle, using autonomous cars could boostcar-sharing services such as Zipcar and Getaround, and thus reduce the number of vehicles worldwide.

Reduce the amount of space required for vehicle parking.

Reduce the costs and inconvenience of employing drivers (for example for public transport or commercial vehicles).

Since autonomous cars would not violate the law and would be less likely to cause traffic collision, traffic police and vehicle insurance could be reduced or eliminated.

Reduced need for road signage - autonomous cars could receive necessary communication electronically, meaning there would be no need for physical signs, line markings or the like.

You can do all that and more with just a bottle of grain alcohol and a totalitarian government.

[Mutant Funk Drink]

Since 10 years ago, humans no longer have to type, spell, or dial phone numbers. Now they won't even have to drive. Soon they won't even need to shit or masturbate. Then humans will be replaced in the workplace all-together. How great.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by Mutant Funk Drink

Since 10 years ago, humans no longer have to type, spell, or dial phone numbers. Now they won't even have to drive. Soon they won't even need to shit or masturbate. Then humans will be replaced in the workplace all-together. How great.

I get the feeling you're being sarcastic. It's fucking awesome. Especially humans being entirely replaced in the workplace. I can't think of a single thing more awesome than that. Feudalism -> Capitalism -> Communism. The latter is only possible when labor can't be exploited.