Texas father kills man allegedly caught molesting his daughter

[Captain Falcon]

Indeed, 1983. Spare time is only spare if you make it so. Go play Counter Strike

[1983]

Originally Posted by Captain Falcon

Indeed, 1983. Spare time is only spare if you make it so. Go play Counter Strike

Actually just renewed my hunting license and I'm going to go buy 1400 rounds of military surplus ammo for myself and an SKS for my dad.

Then I'm going to go play CS.

Al

[Captain Falcon]

Originally Posted by 1983

Actually just renewed my hunting license and I'm going to go buy 1400 rounds of military surplus ammo for myself and an SKS for my dad.

Then I'm going to go play CS.

Al

I personally only have 4 guns and only for home defense. Here's my personal favourite, the HK P30:



Man, I love this gun. Good capacity, great grips that are interchangeable, good weight, 9mm (IMO the best defence calibre). What a piece of beauty. I'm planning on getting a Mosin nagant by the end of the year, since my brother all but hijacked mine. I also have an AK47, I'll post pictures of it later.

[jheit8]

Originally Posted by Captain Falcon

I personally only have 4 guns and only for home defense. Here's my personal favourite, the HK P30:



Man, I love this gun. Good capacity, great grips that are interchangeable, good weight, 9mm (IMO the best defence calibre). What a piece of beauty. I'm planning on getting a Mosin nagant by the end of the year, since my brother all but hijacked mine. I also have an AK47, I'll post pictures of it later.

Hah it's funny because that's all pakis/afghans are good at

[1983]

Originally Posted by Captain Falcon

I personally only have 4 guns and only for home defense. Here's my personal favourite, the HK P30:



Man, I love this gun. Good capacity, great grips that are interchangeable, good weight, 9mm (IMO the best defence calibre). What a piece of beauty. I'm planning on getting a Mosin nagant by the end of the year, since my brother all but hijacked mine. I also have an AK47, I'll post pictures of it later.

I collect and sell firearms so I tend to have a full gun safe or two... Right now I'm sitting at around fourteen guns.

One is coming up for sale really soon but I have to price it first as it's a Nazi youth .22LR rifle. My boss actually wants it really bad so if he's willing to pay what I'm asking it's all his. (he's German)

As for a handgun I live in Canada and don't have the required licensing for one ATM...

I'll probably look into one at a later date though.

Al

[HampTheToker]

Originally Posted by jheit8

Hah it's funny because that's all pakis/afghans are good at

I mean, they're pretty much all issued AK's at birth anyway, rite?

[Captain Falcon]

Originally Posted by jheit8

Hah it's funny because that's all pakis/afghans are good at

lulz

[Your Grace]

You all seem to be pretty stupid.

"You owe me 5 coppers you son of a bitch!"
"Fuck you, I will pay you in shit!"

*A fight starts*

"...Oh shit I think I killed him. I'll just tell the city watch he raped my daughter so I avoid punishment."

In my town such a ruse would not work very well. Apparently your high lords are all idiots.

[Haiti's Space Agency]

http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/news...9653/?counties

molestor was Jesus More Flores. Still no name of the beater, but he was 23 years old. A neighbor witnessed the whole thing and Jesus was found with his pants down on top of the girl. Beating seems to be justified

[HampTheToker]

I.

Told.

You.

So.

[Haiti's Space Agency]

Flores was hired by the Beater to help tend to horses (we was ia immigrant but he had his green card". Hired the wrong guy it seems How can this sick fuck emigrate to the US for a better life, FIND A JOB TO GET THE BETTER LIFE, and then DECIDE TO MOLEST THE DAUGHTER OF THE MAN PAYING YOU. Fucking retarded cunt. Dude is better off dead if he's gonna pull some dumb shit like. Not only did he fuck up his own american dream but now he has no money to send back home to his family. I hope they don't tell Jesus' family the way in which he died. Imagine, loving your dad (if he had kids) for working in the US to help support you in mexico then finding out he's a kiddy fiddler.GAW. Hope they say he just got kicked in the head by horse or something.

[mizled]

Quote:
SHINER - A father caught a man molesting his 4-year-old daughter and beat him to death Saturday, the Lavaca County sheriff said.
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If only the father had used a gun - then IIIII could have posted this thread.

[Haiti's Space Agency]

Originally Posted by mizled

Quote:
SHINER - A father caught a man molesting his 4-year-old daughter and beat him to death Saturday, the Lavaca County sheriff said.
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If only the father had used a gun - then IIIII could have posted this thread.

i'd imagine if the daughter was being chased by the dude good ole boy dad would've gunned em down lickity split you know us texins got dem guns BOI

[1983]

[EDIT]

Does anyone else here realize all those moral fags dissapear into the woodwork when their argument get's shot to shit? Big words from small people that are too stupid to realize that killing themselves would make the wold a better place.

One of my deepest hopes in life is to have these assholes have happen to them and their families what they themselves defend. I bet they'd turn face and become a staunch supported of the death penalty and play higher and mightier and the other side... Fucking Hypocrites.

Al

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by 1983

[EDIT]

Does anyone else here realize all those moral fags dissapear into the woodwork when their argument get's shot to shit? Big words from small people that are too stupid to realize that killing themselves would make the wold a better place.

One of my deepest hopes in life is to have these assholes have happen to them and their families what they themselves defend. I bet they'd turn face and become a staunch supported of the death penalty and play higher and mightier and the other side... Fucking Hypocrites.

Al

LOL who defended anything other than waiting to know the truth before casting judgement? Kill yourself.

[1983]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

Kill yourself.

You first.

Al

[Haiti's Space Agency]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

LOL who defended anything other than waiting to know the truth before casting judgement? Kill yourself.

there is now a witness who Jesus Flores grab the little girl and take her to a barn and the witness alerted teh father, they walked in the guys pants were down and he was on top of the girl.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by a224

there is now a witness who Jesus Flores grab the little girl and take her to a barn and the witness alerted teh father, they walked in the guys pants were down and he was on top of the girl.

Yeah, so it was somewhat justifiable. Before that witness came forth people were acting like there were numerous witnesses and the dad was a hero based on only his word.

[Zombie Food]

At first I thought it was about some teenagers and he killed tthe bf or something. Then I saw '4 years old' and was like




I had some good redneck jokes lined up too, but damn. Pedo got what he deserved.

[Zombie Food]

Actually, I don't think death is really justifiable here after reading what happened. Its not like he was in her or anything.

Still a scumbag tho. Probably better off dead as this most likely would have continued.

[Haiti's Space Agency]

He deserves a medal.

[Aperson444]

Someone should fuck his daughter raw, slit her throat and dump her in a ditch.

Not on any moral or ethical grounds, it would just be very funny.

[Zombie Food]

EDI: That was a joke

[HampTheToker]

Originally Posted by Zombie Food

Actually, I don't think death is really justifiable here after reading what happened. Its not like he was in her or anything.

Still a scumbag tho. Probably better off dead as this most likely would have continued.

Pedophiles are dangerous and unpredictable, especially when caught in the act.

I mean, you really think that once they're caught they're gonna be all ???

I don't think so. They know what awaits them in prison and will do whatever it takes to avoid it. I'm not saying that they all deserve to die. I'm just saying that this man was justified because there is no way to predict what the pedo would have done if he got the upper hand, but the odds are that it wouldn't have been something civilized and rational.

Bottom line: The man protected his daughter at all cost. I hope I'm half the father he is.

[Haiti's Space Agency]

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

Pedophiles are dangerous and unpredictable, especially when caught in the act.

I mean, you really think that once they're caught they're gonna be all ???

I don't think so. They know what awaits them in prison and will do whatever it takes to avoid it. I'm not saying that they all deserve to die. I'm just saying that this man was justified because there is no way to predict what the pedo would have done if he got the upper hand, but the odds are that it wouldn't have been something civilized and rational.

Bottom line: The man protected his daughter at all cost. I hope I'm half the father he is.

You are man, you are.

[HampTheToker]

Originally Posted by a224

You are man, you are.

Thanks, man. That means a lot.

I hate it when people say their children are their world, but I understand it, and I wouldn't hesitate to kill or be killed for my son. As far as I'm concerned, singlefags can gtfo of this thread. It just isn't possible for them to understand the lengths a good parent will go for their children.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

Bottom line: The man protected his daughter at all cost. I hope I'm half the father he is.

That's fine and I respect him for it, but he should have to pay that cost now that he's accidentally killed someone. Otherwise he protected his daughter at no cost but a person's life. Admittedly a fucked up person, but still a person. I'd have 10 times the respect for him if he plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter.

I respect the action he took, but not the outcome.

[HampTheToker]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

That's fine and I respect him for it, but he should have to pay that cost now that he's accidentally killed someone. Otherwise he protected his daughter at no cost but a person's life. Admittedly a fucked up person, but still a person. I'd have 10 times the respect for him if he plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter.

I respect the action he took, but not the outcome.

Gtfo. He shouldn't plead to anything because it was totally justifiable. He had every reason in the world to fear for his and his daughter's lives. He took appropriate action to remove that threat.

Any jury would only need one of me, and I can guarantee you that there are millions out there that feel the same as I do. They won't even bother to file charges. Any half competent DA could see that it would be a pointless waste of resources to try a man that has committed no crime.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

committed no crime.

Murder/manslaughter is a crime.

[HampTheToker]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

Murder/manslaughter is a crime.

You're absolutely right.

But, this guy didn't murder/manslaughter anyone. He protected the life of his child. Self-defense is not a crime. Protecting the life of your child isn't a crime.

Pedophilia on the other hand...

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

You're absolutely right.

But, this guy didn't murder/manslaughter anyone. He protected the life of his child. Self-defense is not a crime. Protecting the life of your child isn't a crime.

Pedophilia on the other hand...

[Zombie Food]

How does having your pants down in front of a kid justify murder?

I understand why he would be pissed the fuck off. But murder is too far. Not to say I wouldn't do the same. But he should be held responsible for his actions as well.

Fact is, he killed a man when nobody's life was in danger. There needs to be concequences for this.

[Zombie Food]

He prolly scarred the child more with the murder than the pedo did with molesting her.

[HampTheToker]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-r-0052.htm

Generally, the "castle doctrine" provides that someone attacked in his home can use reasonable force, which can include deadly force, to protect his or another's life without any duty to retreat from the attacker.

And, here's a wiki if that isn't good enough.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...United_States)

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

to protect his or another's life

Prove his or his daughter's life was in danger. Her innocence was in danger, but saying "pedos know what happens so he was liable to murder them both" is a fallacy that wouldn't stand up in court. If that were true every pedo in jail would also have assault/murder charges.

Pedos are weak and pathetic. Being caught they are far more likely to roll over and surrender than they are to start attacking people.

[Zombie Food]

Who's life did he protect and how?

The only one in danger here was the pedo. Maybe he should have killed the dad?

[Zombie Food]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

Prove his or his daughter's life was in danger. Her innocence was in danger, but saying "pedos know what happens so he was liable to murder them both" is a fallacy that wouldn't stand up in court. If that were true every pedo in jail would also have assault/murder charges.

Pedos are weak and pathetic. Being caught they are far more likely to roll over and surrender than they are to start attacking people.

One thing: Sexual ASSAULT

But still, the only life in danger here was the pedo's.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by Zombie Food

One thing: Sexual ASSAULT

... is not synonymous with life threatening.

[HampTheToker]

Yeah, I mean, it's not like we ever hear of children being abducted, brutalized, and murdered by sick fuck pedophiles or anything...

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

Yeah, I mean, it's not like we ever hear of children being abducted, brutalized, and murdered by sick fuck pedophiles or anything...

Right, child molestation is inherently life threatening.