The Zimmerman thread!

[IIIII]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

Perjury, in the capacity the woman committed it, is a second degree misdemeanor under Florida state law. Unless Georgie made the same statements under oath, he's not guilty of perjury. They can probably get him for something if they're really so desperate to compensate for the failure of a trial, but not perjury.

Yea well it has already cost both $15000 of donated money - since that bond was revoked and it tells the court (and everyone else) that lying to the judge is OK with George.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by IIIII

Yea well it has already cost both $15000 of donated money - since that bond was revoked and it tells the court (and everyone else) that lying to the judge is OK with George.

True enough, it does hurt his credibility. However, the burden of proof is on the prosecution, not on the defense. If you start off on the presumption that everything he says is a lie, the trial itself becomes a lie, and nothing but an excuse for a lynching party.

[IIIII]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

True enough, it does hurt his credibility. However, the burden of proof is on the prosecution, not on the defense. If you start off on the presumption that everything he says is a lie, the trial itself becomes a lie, and nothing but an excuse for a lynching party.

I am just saying what the judge said when he revoked the bond, "Zimmerman does not properly respect the law."

And the same for his wife.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

His wife committed perjury? It's like every Zimmerman wants to be a cop in some way or another.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

True enough, it does hurt his credibility. However, the burden of proof is on the prosecution, not on the defense. If you start off on the presumption that everything he says is a lie, the trial itself becomes a lie, and nothing but an excuse for a lynching party.

He's making it easy for people to do that. It'd be one thing if people were saying he's lying without proof of a lie, but now that he's lied about things that were essential to carrying out the prosecution and ensuring justice....

[roasted]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

His wife committed perjury? It's like every Zimmerman wants to be a cop in some way or another.

Do you even know what perjury is? ...get back to me on that...

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by roasted

Do you even know what perjury is? ...get back to me on that...

Lying under oath? Cops do it all the time.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

He's making it easy for people to do that. It'd be one thing if people were saying he's lying without proof of a lie, but now that he's lied about things that were essential to carrying out the prosecution and ensuring justice....

This trial was never about justice. Martin's dead, and Zimmerman was never going to go to prison for it. It's a show trial to make idiots feel better about the fact that an asshole kid got killed by an asshole adult.

You realize that the perjury by his wife isn't going to win a conviction, right?

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by roasted

Do you even know what perjury is? ...get back to me on that...

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Lying under oath? Cops do it all the time.

Cops lying in court is par for the course, cops beating on/killing minorities is par for the course. If they have a kid I bet he'll end up planting drugs/weapons in somebody's locker.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

You realize that the perjury by his wife isn't going to win a conviction, right?

I never said it was. And yes, the trial is about justice in a region where it has historically been denied to people like Martin. Killing brown kids, claiming self defense, and getting away with it is what the South was known for. People want to see how far society has come, essentially.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

I never said it was. And yes, the trial is about justice in a region where it has historically been denied to people like Martin. Killing brown kids, claiming self defense, and getting away with it is what the South was known for. People want to see how far society has come, essentially.

I don't know, Florida isn't exactly cotton picking country. They aren't hugely racist assholes down there. At least not towards niggers.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

I don't know, Florida isn't exactly cotton picking country. They aren't hugely racist assholes down there. At least not towards niggers.

Have you ever been to Florida? South Florida is alright, but North Florida (which is where Sanford is) is essentially KKK country.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

I never said it was. And yes, the trial is about justice in a region where it has historically been denied to people like Martin. Killing brown kids, claiming self defense, and getting away with it is what the South was known for. People want to see how far society has come, essentially.

Yeah, and slaughtering the Native inhabitants of the Americas is something that the white men and their brown slaves were known for.

Were. Past tense. What's your point? You been killed for being brown lately?

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Have you ever been to Florida? South Florida is alright, but North Florida (which is where Sanford is) is essentially KKK country.

I've been mostly in south florida/the keys. I'm sure there's some crossover area near the border where Florida is just as racist as Georgia, but for the most part (down to the accents and everything) Florida is just like the north.

[roasted]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Lying under oath? Cops do it all the time.

I'm sure you know what perjury is. We dont agree on much, but I know you arent stupid either....that comment was aimed at PV because it was completely not relevant to anything and suggested he (wannabe she) didnt know the definition of perjury

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

Yeah, and slaughtering the Native inhabitants of the Americas is something that the white men and their brown slaves were known for.

Were. Past tense. What's your point? You been killed for being brown lately?

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[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

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[DiStOrTiOn]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

They thought they were going to get off scot free

I think they probably lied because they knew they weren't going to get a fair trial. Now their plan failed

[Tachosomoza]

Yeah, that's brilliant logic. Ruin your credibility because you think you won't get a free trial. Very wise.

[Iehovah]

Personally, I'm going to laugh if it turns out all the money they've been moving around can't be accounted for to the IRS.

Note the tinkering with the sums. $9,999? Isn't it sums under $5,000 that avoid the attention of the feds?

[Tachosomoza]

Currency transactions over $10K.

[IIIII]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

Perjury, in the capacity the woman committed it, is a second degree misdemeanor under Florida state law. Unless Georgie made the same statements under oath, he's not guilty of perjury. They can probably get him for something if they're really so desperate to compensate for the failure of a trial, but not perjury.

The charge against Shellie Zimmerman is for committing perjury during an official proceeding (her husband's bond hearing).

This is a 3rd degree felony and is punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a $5000 fine.

Usually if a person is a convicted felon, having or being around guns is a no-no.

[IIIII]

The judge has ruled that statements made by G Zimmerman can now be released to the public and the media.

Zimmerman's lawyers opposed their release.

Judge: Zimmerman statements can be released

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- A judge says statements a former neighborhood watch leader made to detectives after he fatally shot 17-year-Trayvon Martin can be released to the public.

But Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester ruled Wednesday that the identities of witnesses who observed the fatal confrontation between Martin and George Zimmerman can stay private.

Lester's ruling was in response to a challenge by media groups, including The Associated Press, against efforts to seal some records.

Prosecutors and Zimmerman's defense attorney had wanted to keep private Zimmerman's statements to police after the fatal shooting in February, as well as the identities of witnesses. They had argued that their public release would jeopardize Zimmerman's chance of getting a fair hearing when he is tried for second-degree murder.

Zimmerman is pleading not guilty, claiming self-defense.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...TATE&TEMPLATE=

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by IIIII

The charge against Shellie Zimmerman is for committing perjury during an official proceeding (her husband's bond hearing).

This is a 3rd degree felony and is punishable by up to 5 years in prison and a $5000 fine.

Usually if a person is a convicted felon, having or being around guns is a no-no.

I guess someone will get satisfaction then. Nothing like finding a scapegoat to lynch when you lose the real prize. I'm not suggesting she should be let off - she broke the law, after all. But I'm betting no one gives a rat's ass about the law.

I doubt the gun thing's a problem for him unless he's a collector. Police will have confiscated it as evidence, surely.

[IIIII]

I wonder if the insurance would have paid for G Zimmerman, if he had purchased it before the shooting?

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by IIIII

I wonder if the insurance would have paid for G Zimmerman, if he had purchased it before the shooting?

Yeah, fuck that skin condition man. That shit got my application for a R.A.C.E. membership denied.

[IIIII]

There are 6 recordings and 6 transcripts of the Shellie and George Zimmerman calls at the site.

I have provided a sample of one call to show the irony of the self absorbed couple.It is astounding.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Geo...g/-/index.html

“Ah, you’re so good,” said George Zimmerman, who then discussed resetting a password on one of his accounts.

“Don’t worry, cutie,” said Shellie Zimmerman, who later added that her husband's website was crashing because of the amount of people logging in to show their support.

“That feels good … that there are people in America that care,” George Zimmerman said. “That is awesome. I need to talk to O’Mara about getting the word out because those people need to start vocalizing themselves.”

“After this is all over, you’re going to be able to just have a great life,” Shellie Zimmerman said.

“We will,” George Zimmerman replied. “I’m excited.”

“Yeah, you should be. You should be excited,” Shellie Zimmerman said.

“I wish you were here, of course,” she said.

“I will be,” he said.

“Isn’t it crazy how something like this just makes you put everything in perspective in life?” Shellie Zimmerman said. “It’s amazing how insignificant the things we stress out over are.”

“I agree,” he said.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Geo...g/-/index.html

[mizled]

This Just In!

Zimmerman killed Martin in protest against NAMBLA.

He was a friggin' homophobe.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by IIIII

There are 6 recordings and 6 transcripts of the Shellie and George Zimmerman calls at the site.

I have provided a sample of one call to show the irony of the self absorbed couple.It is astounding.

If, as Zimmerman claimed, the killing was only one of self-defense, then he has the RIGHT to be self-absorbed. It would mean that he's being put through the political wringer in what is probably a racially-motivated attempt at retribution on behalf of a vicious under-aged prick who would eventually have got himself killed in gang violence anyway.

If, on the other hand, he's guilty, then your complaints about his self-absorption are meaningless. He'd be a stone cold killer, a neighborhood stalking thug who uses the excuse of theft to excuse slaughtering children.after all. Of course he's self-absorbed.

If you'd actually attempt to apply some critical thinking to your posts, rather than copying and pasting the fuck out of everything, you might actually come up with some worthwhile insight. In the meantime, you're nothing but faIIIIIIl.

[Benjamin Linus]

Couldn't have said it better Iehovah. And this thick headed biased idiot thinks he posted a "sample" of their conversation, when infact it is an editorialised article. Why do these Martin sympathizers feel the need to use misdirection when talking about this case. Just like the NBC producer who doctored the 911 call to make Zimmerman look to be racist.

[Tachosomoza]

Lol, you're not in any position to be talking about misdirection when the guy you're supporting and his wife conspired to mislead the court.

[Psych]

Sounds like normal conversation between husband and wife when they have found out that what at first looks like a bad situation, will probably wind up with them both being rich from book deals and what not. Even if Zimmerman winds up in prison for five or ten years, his future looks bright.

Maybe I should go out and harass a black teenager until he confronts me, then shoot him and live large.

[Benjamin Linus]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Lol, you're not in any position to be talking about misdirection when the guy you're supporting and his wife conspired to mislead the court.

See ^^^ perfect example. Instead of addressing the matter, it's "Hey, nevermind that, LOOK OVER HERE!!!"


And, ya know, I'd probably lie to the court to if I had done nothing wrong and was a victim of a political witchhunt by an overzealous prosecutor looking for attention on the national stage. It's a matter of survival. They had him locked in a fuckin jail that is 90% black beasts. And we all know that George will "pull the trigger" (so to speak) on a situation where black savages are trying to kill him. Would you want to be locked in a jail that was 90% white-trash rednecks if you had been accused of raping a lily white teenage girl Tacho? Especially knowing you were innocent?

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Benjamin Linus

See ^^^ perfect example. Instead of addressing the matter, it's "Hey, nevermind that, LOOK OVER HERE!!!"

He was in protective custody, and I'm curious how you found out the racial composition of Seminole County Jail. And he's not "innocent", if he was Martin would be alive and he wouldn't be in this mess. Yeah, NBC didn't need to edit the tape, but this case wasn't going to get swept under the rug anyways, especially in an area of the country where bodies with ropes around their necks are still being pulled out of rivers.

Lie to the court so you could walk for killing a kid in an incident you could have avoided? America is a wonderful country.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Psych

Sounds like normal conversation between husband and wife when they have found out that what at first looks like a bad situation, will probably wind up with them both being rich from book deals and what not. Even if Zimmerman winds up in prison for five or ten years, his future looks bright.

Maybe I should go out and harass a black teenager until he confronts me, then shoot him and live large.

Yeah, just dont pick a gang banger, otherwise you won't make it to court. If Martin had been a gang member Zimmerman wouldn't have seen the end of March.

When he gets out of jail he'll disappear, if he's a smart man. He's shown plenty of evidence to the contrary though. Calling the prosecutor on his own, domestic violence, pissing off his lawyers, setting up a website to solicit funds and then lying about the money, killing Martin...a real Rhodes scholar.

[Benjamin Linus]

How could he have avoided the situation? Stayed in his truck? He has no obligation to stay in his truck. He's free to get out of his truck and walk wherever the fuck he wants.

Now if you wanna talk about avoiding a situation, it's pretty much been proven that lil' Trayvon attacked Zim. And the reason givin is that he was scared for his life. Thats fine, if it were the truth. Lil' Trayvon had made it to his house and stayed outside for a minute and then went back to confront Zimmerman. If he was scared, why didn't he just go inside? I'll tell you why. Cause he had that wild thug mentality. "Fuck this, I'm a balla! Don't nobody fuck with da NO_LIMIT_NIGGA!" So he went and started shit. While he has no obligation to go into his house, he DOES have an obligation to not escalate the situation. And thats what he did. That is the ONLY repeat ONLY reason to leave your house and go back down to where Zimmerman was. Zimmerman may have been walking on the same sidewalk behind him, even taking the same route. He's free to do so.

But in the end, c'mon, how the fuck does "I'm scared for my life from that guy, so I'm going to leave the safety of my home and go over to where HE is" make any fuck'n sense at all?

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Benjamin Linus

Now if you wanna talk about avoiding a situation, it's pretty much been proven that lil' Trayvon attacked Zim. And the reason givin is that he was scared for his life. Thats fine, if it were the truth. Lil' Trayvon had made it to his house and stayed outside for a minute and then went back to confront Zimmerman. If he was scared, why didn't he just go inside? I'll tell you why. Cause he had that wild thug mentality.

Originally Posted by Benjamin Linus

Why do these Martin sympathizers feel the need to use misdirection when talking about this case.

Misdirection like that? It has NOT been "pretty much proven" that Martin attacked Zimmerman first. Nobody really knows who attacked first. All we know is that Zimmerman followed Martin and that Zimmerman sustained injuries.

Whether Zimmerman started the altercation and then Martin overpowered him and beat him up, or whether Martin hid and caught Zimmerman by surprise, nobody knows.

[Tachosomoza]

Not interacting with/profiling Martin in the first place would be a start.

Originally Posted by Benjamin Linus

How could he have avoided the situation? Stayed in his truck? He has no obligation to stay in his truck. He's free to get out of his truck and walk wherever the fuck he wants.

Now if you wanna talk about avoiding a situation, it's pretty much been proven that lil' Trayvon attacked Zim. And the reason givin is that he was scared for his life. Thats fine, if it were the truth. Lil' Trayvon had made it to his house and stayed outside for a minute and then went back to confront Zimmerman. If he was scared, why didn't he just go inside? I'll tell you why. Cause he had that wild thug mentality. "Fuck this, I'm a balla! Don't nobody fuck with da NO_LIMIT_NIGGA!" So he went and started shit. While he has no obligation to go into his house, he DOES have an obligation to not escalate the situation. And thats what he did. That is the ONLY repeat ONLY reason to leave your house and go back down to where Zimmerman was. Zimmerman may have been walking on the same sidewalk behind him, even taking the same route. He's free to do so.

But in the end, c'mon, how the fuck does "I'm scared for my life from that guy, so I'm going to leave the safety of my home and go over to where HE is" make any fuck'n sense at all?

[Benjamin Linus]

I am angry about the situation. It pisses me off how the facts are being thrown out the window because the news decided to latch onto this and skew it for the ratings. Then throw in Jesse and Al Sharpton and they whipped a very gullible, very uneducated segment of society into a feeding frenzy for their own political gain.

And fucking Al Sharpton???? WTF? You ever heard of the Tawana Brawley case. look it up. Shartpton KNEW she had made up the kidnapping, he KNEW it was fake but it didn't stop him from going on tv and accusing everyone from the CHEIF OF POLICE to the LT. GOVERNOR of NY of kidnapping and raping the girl. For fucks sake. He should have been humiliated into suicide over that one. He tried to start a race war just for political gain. Tell me he cares about his black brothers and sisters (or anyone for that matter. Besides himself).

And no, I have no particular bent for dead brown kids, I am just sick and fuckin tired of the shit they pull. Every goddam time your hear of a crime it's always the same thing, "suspect is described as a black male". And, yes, I know -it's because the news media ONLY reports crimes that black men/women commit. So let me tell you a true story:

I live in a little community, about 1 square mile. 99% white middle aged, middle class families. We have a ~100 apartment complex on the edge of the neighborhood. There was a fire and all the apartments were vacant for a while. When it opened back up it was exclusively section-8. Now that complex is 99% black folk. That was 3 years ago. Since that time violent crimes in this area are up 80%. There's at least one or two home invasions a week. Dozens of burglaries, robberies, theft cases. There have been 17 murders in that apartment complex alone in the last 3 years as opposed to ZERO since it was built in the '50s up to fire. The last one was just brilliant. 4 teenagers were killed at a birthday party because one of the guests, who was 19, felt that a 12yo kid had insulted his shoes. So he pulls out a gun and shoots the 12yo, the 17yo girl who's bday party it was, and two 15yo's. Makes sense huh? The police have logged over 1800 almost 1900 calls there in the three years. The city council at one point discussed buying the property and bulldozing it. Those apartments have been there for 60 years no problem. Give the wild beast 3 years and the city wants to level it. Yeah, crime is not exclusively commited by black folks, but them feral niggers sure do have a monopoly on it.

[Rust]

Originally Posted by Benjamin Linus

I am angry about the situation. It pisses me off how the facts are being thrown out the window because the news decided to latch onto this and skew it for the ratings. Then throw in Jesse and Al Sharpton and they whipped a very gullible, very uneducated segment of society into a feeding frenzy for their own political gain.

Well you should be angry at yourself since you're a huge part of the problem. You previous post contained a bunch of falsehoods which you were trying to pass off as "pretty much proven". You're just as bad as they are.