Why Aliens Would Defeat the Human Species

[Dread_Lord]

Originally Posted by DJ Meaty Cheeks

Lol. So true..."hmm if no human will sex me up maybe an alien will." Jesus look at all the Avatar porn.

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[Haiti's Space Agency]

Originally Posted by a224

If anything is possible then isn't it also possible for somethings to be impossible

Originally Posted by a224

If anything is possible then isn't it also possible for somethings to be impossible

Originally Posted by a224

If anything is possible then isn't it also possible for somethings to be impossible

Originally Posted by a224

If anything is possible then isn't it also possible for somethings to be impossible

Originally Posted by a224

If anything is possible then isn't it also possible for somethings to be impossible

[quote=a224;3635858]If anything is possible then isn't it also possible for somethings to be impossible[/QUO

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by moonturtle

then we don't have to worry about aliens finding us. How likely is it that humans are the most advanced organisms in the galaxy though?

About as likely as it is that we aren't.

[mizled]

Traditionally, the advantage goes to the side with the high ground.

The US can't even get into space anymore without hitching a ride with the Russians.
Sucks.

[curioushat]

The thing about aliens though is even if they came here right before our eyes we would have no idea they were here. They wouldn't be water-carbon based beings, they may not even be visible in light. They might not even be made of solids, could be random clouds, even plasma, etc.

Thus, they may not observe us either.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by curioushat

The thing about aliens though is even if they came here right before our eyes we would have no idea they were here. They wouldn't be water-carbon based beings, they may not even be visible in light. They might not even be made of solids, could be random clouds, even plasma, etc.

Thus, they may not observe us either.

Ball lightning is sentient and plasma based.

[Zombie Food]

Not to say they would be violent, but if they were, they'd demolish us.

If they are capable of interstellar travel, they are easily capable of wiping us out.

[curioushat]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

Ball lightning is sentient and plasma based.

Right. There is no reason to believe that any alien existence would resemble humans, at all. They could be X-Rays instead of visual colors, etc. They could exist in dimensions we are not capable of understanding.

[moonturtle]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

About as likely as it is that we aren't.

exactly. no one can conjecture the likelihood

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by Drox

In other words, we have no idea.

there's a lot of very good theoretical speculation on this subject using very very sound logic.



Shostak is a numpty. If they are capable of interstellar travel, odds are they could just as easily go to an uninhabited planet to mine resources. Unless their "society" were built upon completely foreign concepts (ie-people are psychic, hivemind, non-carbon based, etc..etc..etc..) then it's reasonable to assume that their motivations wouldn't necessarily be one of conquest, having developed the ability to visit planets outside their local system to acquire whatever minerals or elements they need to fuel their machinations. On the other end of the spectrum, they could be so very different that the ideas of "life" and "death" or "beginning" and "end" might never have even been conceived of within their society; in that event when they get here the biggest threat to humanity would be an inability to communicate...well anything. When another being can't even conceive the nature of human frailty and mortality, THAT is when we start running into "barriers".


It may not even be out of conquest that humans are killed; it could simply be because a life-form different enough from us might not recognize us as one and vice versa.


HOWEVER; barring inter-dimensional, Neon-based gaseous beings who move through time and space at will, we do know that if there ever were "ET's" they would most likely evolve humanoid characteristics as science has been able to prove the evolutionary benefit of much of the human condition. I mean things like opposable(sp?) thumbs, a highly-evolved and complex brain structure capable of abstract thought and forward thinking, forward facing eyes, etc, etc..



HOWEVER HOWEVER, it has been stated that, if they are travelling via machine, MATHEMATICS would be the only common language we could communicate in; after we establish that common link (if we can) I don't think it would be hard for us to begin a mutually beneficial exchange of information.

[constantinople]

[quote=a224;3640193]

Originally Posted by a224

If anything is possible then isn't it also possible for somethings to be impossible[/QUO

Yes, but not in the same dimension. Duh.

[Zombie Food]

Fuck you guys.

It's Asari or broke.

[constantinople]

....fuck this thread. I'm gonna go outside and pray for abduction some more.

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by Vizier

Most UFO sightings are still hoaxes or earthly, man made objects one way or another. We can't be sure...


Well, if an intelligent civilization developed somewhere in the vincinity of our galaxy, say, launching their first probe into space 10,000 years ago, they would have reached the equivalent of technological singularity not much later, while we were still trying to hunt creatures with sticks. While the galaxy itself is 100,000 light years across; as of now in a radius of some 600 light years around us they have discovered a couple of earth-like planets that could very well host life.

So, hypothetically speaking, if this civilization were to have sent probes to nearby star systems, probes advanced and intelligent enough to replicate themselves and continue the process, it is kind of likely at least one of them would have reached the earth by now, or at least sent a signal; kind of similar to the Space Odyssey 2001 series.

Since a civilization thousands of years more advanced technologically than we are, we would pose no threat beside the fact that they'd probably underestimate us. Depending on the kind of technology they'd be using at first, probably automated machines, if we defeated an invasion of sorts we'd be ready for when they came themselves to wage a full scale global war, but so would they and by this point they'd probably have the technology to make the entire planet explode or render it unsuitable for life if they're not interested in shit like resources.

...but since none of that shit has happened so far we'd have to assume that, at least several hundred light years around us, no civilization besides ourselves have achieved advanced levels of interstellar travel.

How do you know we aren't living on a "foundation" of sorts right now? That the aliens already came and went back to the galactic core?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_series

[iTweaker]

how the fck can they something we dont know , fuck as up???

[sepht]

Originally Posted by Vizier

Most UFO sightings are still hoaxes or earthly, man made objects one way or another. We can't be sure...


Well, if an intelligent civilization developed somewhere in the vincinity of our galaxy, say, launching their first probe into space 10,000 years ago, they would have reached the equivalent of technological singularity not much later, while we were still trying to hunt creatures with sticks. While the galaxy itself is 100,000 light years across; as of now in a radius of some 600 light years around us they have discovered a couple of earth-like planets that could very well host life.

So, hypothetically speaking, if this civilization were to have sent probes to nearby star systems, probes advanced and intelligent enough to replicate themselves and continue the process, it is kind of likely at least one of them would have reached the earth by now, or at least sent a signal; kind of similar to the Space Odyssey 2001 series.

Since a civilization thousands of years more advanced technologically than we are, we would pose no threat beside the fact that they'd probably underestimate us. Depending on the kind of technology they'd be using at first, probably automated machines, if we defeated an invasion of sorts we'd be ready for when they came themselves to wage a full scale global war, but so would they and by this point they'd probably have the technology to make the entire planet explode or render it unsuitable for life if they're not interested in shit like resources.

...but since none of that shit has happened so far we'd have to assume that, at least several hundred light years around us, no civilization besides ourselves have achieved advanced levels of interstellar travel.

I think they have space bending wormhole technology, which make light speed travel pointless and dangerous considering there's so much shit in your path of travel.

You honestly think humans thought up interstellar travel, fiber optic cables, meteorite mining for platinum, etc. by themselves? lawwwl

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by sepht

I think they have space bending wormhole technology, which make light speed travel pointless and dangerous considering there's so much shit in your path of travel.

You honestly think humans thought up interstellar travel, fiber optic cables, meteorite mining for platinum, etc. by themselves? lawwwl

You are such a shit troll. Go wash your greasy mexican hair you disgusting fat-body.

[sepht]

Originally Posted by Vizier

I'm trying to take you seriously here but it's impossible when you realize you're an ugly ass motherfucker who fucks dogs and is a fucking furry and every time I see your avatar it makes me want to throw a puppy into a frying pan.

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by Vizier

I'm trying to take you seriously here but it's impossible when you realize you're an ugly ass motherfucker who fucks dogs and is a fucking furry and every time I see your avatar it makes me want to throw a puppy into a frying pan.

Yes, I honestly think humans thought of all that shit. I love it how people who believe in shit like, aliens building pyramids and what not gives so little credit to the human race.

Why would the aliens bother setting up an entire nation just so they could subjugate it when they have a work-force big enough to get the job done?


Couldn't they just like....cut some bricks with space lasers and bust out a couple of those loaders from Aliens?




I mean honestly, why go through all the trouble to hire workers, pay them, pay the people that payed them, and basically run Egypt for a couple hunnerd years or something and then cover it all up?? Did they just not had nothin better to do than hang out in the desert

[sepht]

[constantinople]

The Ignore List:

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congratulations. You finally made the club. I knew you could it.

[sepht]

loling my ass off

[Tachosomoza]

If "aliens" exist, which they probably do, they probably aren't anything like we've imagined them to be like, or can fathom. We probably won't be able to even begin to try to communicate with them, much less understand them. If they want to kill us, they will. And the funny thing is we won't even know what we're being killed with, or who's killing us.

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by Vizier

Pretty much. Think about this whole alien thing. They have the technology to travel across space and time as they please, just to abduct hilliebillies in the middle of nowhere and do interstellar grafiti on our crop fields...

The whole ancient astronaut thing, unsurprisingly, happened when there were no written records whatsoever of it. Aliens decided to stop coming for a while after people discovered language, but came back thousands of years later to analy probe our slowest citizens and give people little white dots in the sky for them to record.

These people believe a bunch of alien races exist among us, ala men in black or in deep underground bases. They're at least hundreds of years more technologically advanced than we are but are too shy to live on our surface so they go deep into the earth to avoid being seen by us, the inferior species.

We also believe most, if not all of these alien species are strangely humanoid, as in two legs, two arms and a head...

People are fucking desperate to believe anything but the truth. People will fight for that shit.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by DR.PAPADROPADOCALOPALIS

The Ignore List:

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congratulations. You finally made the club. I knew you could it.

Papadrop, only faggots use ignore.

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

If "aliens" exist, which they probably do, they probably aren't anything like we've imagined them to be like, or can fathom. We probably won't be able to even begin to try to communicate with them, much less understand them. If they want to kill us, they will. And the funny thing is we won't even know what we're being killed with, or who's killing us.

Or they could have evolved on a planet with conditions almost identical to Earth's, bringing about very very similar evolutionary characteristics leading to what could be (for all we know) another planet of humans on a different planet somewhere in the universe. Like I said before there's a lot more possibility than what you or the Hollywood guy giving it credit for.

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

Papadrop, only faggots use ignore.

When you ignore people, you take their power away. These are facts.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by DR.PAPADROPADOCALOPALIS

When you ignore people, you take their power away. These are facts.

When you ignore people, you show you lack the strength to overlook dissenting opinions and attitudes. These are facts.

[The Pat-Man]

Originally Posted by Vizier

Evolution on earth was shaped through continental drifts and global climate changes and extinction level events like that asteroid that wiped the dinosaurs. Any other variable in an earth-like planet would lead to a whole new kind of dominating species evolving. Hell, maybe the next sentient alien race we encounter looks more like a fucking squid than anything else. There's no way to know at the moment.

what if the evolution of their planet went exactly like ours UNTIL no asteroid hit to wipe out the dinosaurs and aliens are just high tech velociraptors.

[Proots]

Originally Posted by Vizier

If anything, we'd be able to communicate somewhat through the universal language: mathematics.

Not trying to be contrary here, but - this is the second time I've read this. What makes us so sure math is a universal language? What makes us certain that beings from another galaxy/dimension have math similar to ours?

Like I said, I'm not trying to put anyone down, I'm actually genuinely curious. I find this concept pretty interesting.

EDIT : Also, how would math help us communicate? Maybe, I'm a bit too literary minded, but I don't understand how getting someone who speaks another language to understand math will help you understand each other?

[southernsun]

They will probably be something like mankind, greedy, kills their own kind because of religion, power hungry. Better to keep away.

[The Pat-Man]

aliens will probably be somewhere in between star trek (humans with funny foreheads) and extra dimensional beings who have no concept of space and time.

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by The Pat-Man

aliens will probably be somewhere in between star trek (humans with funny foreheads) and extra dimensional beings who have no concept of space and time.

Both of those things were on Star Trek though.

[mizled]

The Aliens are already amongst us.

They mow our lawns, make our fast food, do our dry cleaning and open up nail salons.

[The Pat-Man]

genuinely loled

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by jheit8

Nope, Gamera vs. Guiron.

[L33tz]

If even we have the capability to easily kill over half the worlds population from behind a few controls in a minutes, what could aliens do?