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New documents unearthed in Tokyo reveal that North Korean leader Kim Jong-un's maternal grandfather worked for the Japanese military, sparking claims that the reclusive state's leader is the descendant of a traitor.

Japanese human rights activist and researcher Ken Kato says the relative, Ko Gyon-tek, made uniforms for the Japanese army at the Hirota sewing factory in the Japanese city of Osaka, making him - under North Korean law - a collaborator.

In the Orwellian world of North Korea, traitorous blood can take generations to be washed away.

A 1972 law passed by then-ruler Kim il-Sung declared that: "Enemies of class, whoever they are, their seed must be eliminated through three generations."

Having relatives who collaborated with the hated Japanese occupiers or who helped the capitalist South during the war was enough to have someone classified an "enemy of the state".

Tens of thousands of North Koreans have been sent to the gulag for the crimes of their forebears, and many have died in the prison camps.

"I discovered documents in the defence ministry archive in Tokyo which reveal that Kim Jong-un's maternal grandfather Ko Gyon-tek worked at the Hirota Sewing factory. What's significant about that is that it was run by Japan's ministry of war, in other words the Japanese army," Mr Kato told the ABC.

"Collaborators with Japan were categorised as a hostile class, the lowest class in North Korea.

"In many cases they are branded as traitors and sent to political prison camps where many died."
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Collaborator or not, Ko Gyon-tek would escape the gulag - thanks to his beautiful daughter Ko Young-hee, who was born in Japan.

"Ko Young-hee went to North Korea and became a dancer," Mr Kato explained.

"She became a favourite of Kim Jong-il and later his mistress. When Kim's wife died she married him and had three children by him. One of them is Kim Jong-un."

The ABC has seen copies of the documents discovered by Ken Kato - documents which could destroy many myths in North Korea about the Kim dynasty.

"I want Kim Jong-un to realise he's not at the top of North Korea's class system but rather that he's a member of the lowest class - the hostile class," Mr Kato said.

"So he should immediately disband his prison camps where the hostile class are kept, and free his comrades."

It appears that, under his grandfather's own law, Kim Jong-un's veins flow with traitorous blood.

But instead of being branded an enemy of the state, he is the commander-in-chief of a dynastic state based of absolute fear, total control, and unfettered hypocrisy.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-1...?section=world

So under North Korean law, he is not fit to rule, nor is his grandfather because they have the traitor gene. Also his mother was evidently a whore.
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i'm sure he'll just pretend it never happened.

besides, the civilians of north korea will never know of this.
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That would be decidedly unnorth korean
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lol is it any surprise that Kim Jong-Un has Japanese blood in him? Kim Jong-Il wasn't exactly known for selective mate choice.


Also, I'd love to see these documents. Maybe released by a neutral party instead of a "human rights activist" (CIA stooge)
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You think something as simple and easily refutable as geneology would have CIA involvement? You're delusional my friend. Not everything is a conspiracy, just most of it.

And most human rights activists are hard left wingers.

Do you deny that North Koreans have horrible lives and that their country is run by corrupt murderous despots?
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You think something as simple and easily refutable as geneology would have CIA involvement? You're delusional my friend. Not everything is a conspiracy, just most of it.

And most human rights activists are hard left wingers.

Do you deny that North Koreans have horrible lives and that their country is run by corrupt murderous despots?
No, but I don't think the alternative would be any better (western "democracy" under american rule)


And if it was such an easy fact to find, why wasn't it brought up when Kim Jong-Un's mother was heavily propagandized?
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American democracy is way better than Stalinist communism. You're allowed to protest and speak out in public without fear of becoming a target of a death squad!

They probably never made a big deal about it because government types are diplomatic and the north has nukes and arty aimed at the south, who are allies, and therefore didn't want to make fat Kim cry and all sensitive and twitchy at the launch button like the homosexual he is.
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American democracy is way better than Stalinist communism. You're allowed to protest and speak out in public without fear of becoming a target of a death squad!

They probably never made a big deal about it because government types are diplomatic and the north has nukes and arty aimed at the south, who are allies, and therefore didn't want to make fat Kim cry and all sensitive and twitchy at the launch button like the homosexual he is.
A child in a dark room with steel walls can cry and scream all it wants, but it doesn't mean anything will change.
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A child in a dark room with steel walls can cry and scream all it wants, but it doesn't mean anything will change.
Hey, but at least the child has plenty of toys to play with, more than enough food to eat, can walk around that room without a pass and can leave if he wants to, and isn't smashed against a brick wall for refusing to salute a portrait of the leader.
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Hey, but at least the child has plenty of toys to play with, more than enough food to eat, can walk around that room without a pass and can leave if he wants to, and isn't smashed against a brick wall for refusing to salute a portrait of the leader.
So lying to children and telling them their consumerist way of life is fully sustainable and there's no need to worry about their quality of life declining is OK in your mind?

How does one leave the consumerist system? Sure you don't need a card, but it's the same boobs, butts, and gucci everywhere.

The last one makes a good point, because westerners are never attacked for going against the status quo.
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So lying to children and telling them their consumerist way of life is fully sustainable and there's no need to worry about their quality of life declining is OK in your mind?
Not at all.

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How does one leave the consumerist system? Sure you don't need a card, but it's the same boobs, butts, and gucci everywhere.
Boobs and butts are consumerist? Good lawd.

Don't be a consumer, be an expropriator. Live off society's ignorance and waste. You'll still be using stuff, but you won't be paying for it. If that's not enough for you, you could always move to the Amazon and kill your own food, build a hut out of grass and walk around like a member of some uncontacted rainforest tribe.

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The last one makes a good point, because westerners are never attacked for going against the status quo.
I never said that we aren't attacked for going against the status quo, but we aren't posted up against a wall with our hands bound behind our backs, blindfolds on, and shot because we don't cry hard enough when one of our leaders passes away.

The regime that for whatever reason you have such great respect for does things like that, when they're not producing perfect duplicates of our currency or selling heroin to fund their leaders' mysteriously Western habits and addictions, claiming to hate the Western world yet holding their hands out for food aid from the Western world, terrorizing Japan and South Korea, or otherwise going against their Juche idea, which essentially means "fuck everyone else, we're going to use Korean shit only and put Korea first". They spout this shit while at the same time begging aid from the West and consuming Western luxury items.
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The regime that for whatever reason you have such great respect for does things like that, when they're not producing perfect duplicates of our currency or selling heroin to fund their leaders' mysteriously Western habits and addictions, claiming to hate the Western world yet holding their hands out for food aid from the Western world, terrorizing Japan and South Korea, or otherwise going against their Juche idea, which essentially means "fuck everyone else, we're going to use Korean shit only and put Korea first". They spout this shit while at the same time begging aid from the West and consuming Western luxury items.
You're right on pretty much all counts, which sucks because I wanted to argue this out and get the conservatives going
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