AR-15, Barbie for men.

[5.56 SS109]

Originally Posted by tuer502gt

You have no real training. At all.

We are talking about shooting at human targets here.

Did you not know that?

Do you know what light discipline is?

This is not about indoor practical IPSC.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Don't post bullshit here again. If you do, you will be forcing yourself to infract your self.

I don't see you making any valid points to support your views on weapon light usage.

[5.56 SS109]

Originally Posted by ACE_187

You would at the very least have a good idea where the other guy was if he had a flashlight on the end of his gun though

This statement shows you don't understand how to utilize a rifle mounted light. I would suggest doing research before you attempt to make a point.

[tuer502gt]

Originally Posted by 5.56 SS109

This statement shows you don't understand how to utilize a rifle mounted light. I would suggest doing research before you attempt to make a point.

is this a joke and I'm the only one not in on it?

ace, don't you have military training and recent deployments?

[p6867]

Ok, the best way to gain visual superiority over a target is with nightvision. You can see, they can't. If you are not going to buy night vision, which you will if you are serious about location defense, the best thing to do is wait in ambush until your target makes a sound or blocks a light source, like the always on red light on your tv, computer, router, etc, allowing you to fire at the discrepancy or flash your light on a probable target, while moving to a new source of cover or concealment so as not to allow them to return fire at your muzzle flash or the light you activated on your person or weapon.
Something i've thought of was a 'clapper' like system where you would be able to activate household lights remotely either through an attachment on your weapon or a separate remote, allowing easier target identification at your control, with no easy 'fire at the light source' solution for invaders.

The Clapper TV commercial - YouTube

The Clapper TV commercial - YouTube
Video: click to display

instead of responding to sound, have it respond to a remote. Way better for home defense.

[1983]

Originally Posted by p6867

Ok, the best way to gain visual superiority over a target is with nightvision. You can see, they can't. If you are not going to buy night vision, which you will if you are serious about location defense, the best thing to do is wait in ambush until your target makes a sound or blocks a light source, like the always on red light on your tv, computer, router, etc, allowing you to fire at the discrepancy or flash your light on a probable target, while moving to a new source of cover or concealment so as not to allow them to return fire at your muzzle flash or the light you activated on your person or weapon.
Something i've thought of was a 'clapper' like system where you would be able to activate household lights remotely either through an attachment on your weapon or a separate remote, allowing easier target identification at your control, with no easy 'fire at the light source' solution for invaders.
The Clapper TV commercial - YouTube

instead of responding to sound, have it respond to a remote. Way better for home defense.

Just wondering what your stance on silhouette shouting is? I'm not taking about spray painted targets but getting your eyesight used to the dark and being able to use a rifle without any sort of external source of light besides what may naturally be available to you.

For me I've hunted most of my life that way so it's second nature to me.

Al

[tuer502gt]

Doesn't civilian night vision have a give away on it like a light source on top of it like a dull red light at a wave length that won't mess with the night vision to stop people using them for insurgency purposes? And don't they have counters to blocking it?

If not they should.

[moron]

Originally Posted by tuer502gt

Guns aren't toys.

they can be

[5.56 SS109]

Originally Posted by tuer502gt

Doesn't civilian night vision have a give away on it like a light source on top of it like a dull red light at a wave length that won't mess with the night vision to stop people using them for insurgency purposes? And don't they have counters to blocking it?

If not they should.

First Gen stuff and anything else that operates off of an external IR light source does.

[1983]

Originally Posted by moron

they can be

Only if you are your username.

Al

[1983]

Originally Posted by 5.56 SS109

First Gen stuff and anything else that operates off of an external IR light source does.

Shit I did not know that... Is there anything out there on the market you'd suggest for us night owls that don't want to be spotted?

Al

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by tuer502gt

is this a joke and I'm the only one not in on it?

ace, don't you have military training and recent deployments?

You don't keep the light on all the time, you flick it on when you notice their position to line up a better shot. Right?

I'm assuming. I don't know shit about "light doctrine" or whatever, but logically you don't want to be the idiot walking around with a flashlight permanently in the on position when your life is in danger and darkness is your best cover. If you just flick on the light to line up a shot, it's no different than a muzzle flash. If you were wrong and you don't end up lighting up your target you just move and try again, no?

I don't see why flashlights would be dangerous.

[LavaRed]

Originally Posted by p6867

nightvision

Sanity has been restored.

Now shut up about flashlights and keep on topic, or make anothe thread about it. All of you.

[Spence_tron]

You definitely don't keep the light on, that is why you want a pressure switch on the light so it's only on when you need it on. Lights should be used to identify/confirm your target(s) too. Nobody wants a tragedy to occur because you think you have the "bad guy" in your sights in the dark and have it be a loved one (reminder to home defense gun owners).

[1983]

Home defense:


Home solution:




Al

[moron]

Originally Posted by 1983

Only if you are your username.

to me the phrase "only if" comes across as an exclusive group of just a few people


...but in fact it's like half the fuckin population

[mizled]

AR-15, Barbie for men.

Does this make the AK-47 "Ken"?

[p6867]

Originally Posted by 1983

Just wondering what your stance on silhouette shouting is? I'm not taking about spray painted targets but getting your eyesight used to the dark and being able to use a rifle without any sort of external source of light besides what may naturally be available to you.

For me I've hunted most of my life that way so it's second nature to me.

Al

I'm opposed in the instance of home defense as i don't need to have shot someone i care about. It's great in military applications.

[1983]

Originally Posted by p6867

I'm opposed in the instance of home defense as i don't need to have shot someone i care about. It's great in military applications.

Good thing I've only used it for hunting then.

I do intend to buy a third SKS and put a Tapco stock on it as well as a light with a pressure switch and some sort of sight good for close quarters situations.

And there's a few different mag adapters out there as well I want to try.

As for over penetration of the walls I'm not too worried about it in the location that I live in. Worse comes to worse I'd take a shot in the air then proceed to unload a mag into their engine once they got it running and took off.

Some Chinese mil surplus steel core rounds should do a number on the block and any internals in a car or truck making a one time only statement.

Al

[tuer502gt]

I've seen night vision and it still has a red light when switched on intentionally as a give away and not for any other reason, not because it is early stuff.

E: the nv in question was military property. I assume it was used for training purposes.

[p6867]

That would be fucking retarded and i assure you, my NV monocle does not have such a feature nor does any NV system i used in the military

[Number13]

This is the second serious thread that has devolved in to this shit, just make a thread about it, actually I think there is already one so post in that.

[Ph0x]

Even 556 posted off topic in this thread.

He needs to infract himself, but we all know he thinks he is the end all of firearms knowledge.

[mizled]

Originally Posted by Number13

This is the second serious thread that has devolved in to this shit, just make a thread about it, actually I think there is already one so post in that.

Dude, the topic included Barbie - how serious did you expect it to be? (IEspecially with tuer around)

I've got a combat sight on my carbine, have a flashlight mount on my Mossberg 590.

[popo!]

Originally Posted by 1983

I'll still keep all my parts... Worse comes to worse I'll just swap it back and be out a few dollars. I just really want to be able to reload my gun without having to screw around with stripper clips.

Al

I actually think that the non detachable mag is an advantage, strippers are easy once you're used to them, and theres nothing like being able to pop 2 or 3 rounds in your rifle quickly in old school fashion. Detachable mags are great, until you run out... I'd rather pop a few rounds in an sks straight up mosin nagant style than fumble around with trying to load, and fit a polymer tapco mag when in a "stressful situation".

[1983]

^I'm looking at ammo versatility as well as being able to quick load my rifle.

There's a few systems out there that use a cut down Tapco mag and it loads into the SKS like it would a Kalashnikov rifle that requires no modification of the receiver or the mag well.

Best come to best I just got an SKS that can use mags... Worse comes to worse you guys get a product review and a video of me shooting some Tapco mags willed with AP.

Al