A hypothetical situation

[WAN]

This is a story that I read as a child:

This woman really hated this guy. So one day she went and somehow managed to steal the guy's daughter (don't press for details please; it's a story). She trained the girl in martial arts, taught her everything..etc essentially raised her. Girl naturally looked up to this woman. One day the woman told the girl that she had an enemy, and asked girl to assasinate him. Girl said yes. Woman then gave her details of this man. Girl went to kill him, but somehow discovered that he was her biological father, and that the woman who raised her never cared for her, and was just using her for revenge. Girl was very sad.

My question:

Should the girl still be grateful to the woman, for raising her, teaching her everything, even though the woman was only using her//never truly cared for her?

[Vox Ducis]

She should kill the woman and do wincest with her father.

[mizled]

Originally Posted by WAN

My question:

Should the girl still be grateful to the woman, for raising her, teaching her everything, even though the woman was only using her//never truly cared for her? And as a matter of fact, the girl was being hurt very badly, emotionally?

No.

[WAN]

Originally Posted by mizled

No.

But the woman did raise her, teach her everything..etc?

Actually forget about the part where the girl was devastated emotionally. How about just the plain fact that someone does another person good, however it is done not with good intent, but with bad? Should the latter still be thankful towards the former? This is what I was trying to ask.

[Dr. Awkward]

Originally Posted by WAN

But the woman did raise her, teach her everything..etc?

Actually forget about the part where the girl was devastated emotionally. How about just the plain fact that someone does another person good, however it is done not with good intent, but with bad? Should the latter still be thankful towards the former? This is what I was trying to ask.

Just ask the question then, don't write some dumbass story

I know I sure as fuck wouldnt be grateful if someone did me good for bad reasons.

[mizled]

Originally Posted by WAN

But the woman did raise her, teach her everything..etc?

Actually forget about the part where the girl was devastated emotionally. How about just the plain fact that someone does another person good, however it is done not with good intent, but with bad? Should the latter still be thankful towards the former? This is what I was trying to ask.

Still no. If the intent was diabolical in nature, then any positive results are merely coincidental and thus not subject to any moral construct such as gratitude.
The intent to harm would be the tangible aspect of the situation.

[WAN]

Originally Posted by Dr. Awkward

Just ask the question then, don't write some dumbass story

Make me. I luuuuuuurve stories.

on reflection: i better not get my own thread locked

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

This is basically the back story to Hit Girl from Kick Ass.

[WAN]

Originally Posted by mizled

Still no. If the intent was diabolical in nature, then any positive results are merely coincidental and thus not subject to any moral construct such as gratitude.
The intent to harm would be the tangible aspect of the situation.

Don't get me wrong, I think you have a good point. However, the fact that someone had benefited me in a very real and tangible way, (even though it was done with bad intent, or at the very least, not with good intent towards me) and I am not doing anything to repay him/her, it just bothers me.