Great idea to become a millionaire in less than 10 years

[whocares]

All that street hustle, you're not supposed to be doing that forever.

No one gets in the game to stay in it forever. You're supposed to get in, make your money, and get out.

[Tachosomoza]

I've been saying that forever. Means to an end.

[YoureATowel]

what the fuck with you faggots bumping old threads lately? I honestly thought this was a mud farmer's doing but then I saw JC do it. Shame on you, nigger!

[adhesive tape]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Lol, we'll see how much money you have saved after Uncle Sam gets his hands on your checks. Like I said, one does not get rich by working in America. OWNERSHIP is the key to wealth. The rich own and lend, whether it be hard assets like real estate or financial assets like equities and bonds. Also, they stay out of debt.

Wrong. The best/smartest/most successful/most prudent put themselves in debt all the time, at the right time; they borrow money, invest in worthwhile ventures and then pay it off afterwards. Going balls deep into a venture that could turn into the next Google, Facebook, Microsoft or McDonald's by borrowing as much you can get your hands on is common business practice, it just has to be a worthy investment. Most super successful companies have billions of dollars worth of debt, the trick is to keep in proportion to the company's equity.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by adhesive tape

Wrong. The best/smartest/most successful/most prudent put themselves in debt all the time, at the right time; they borrow money, invest in worthwhile ventures and then pay it off afterwards. Going balls deep into a venture that could turn into the next Google, Facebook, Microsoft or McDonald's by borrowing as much you can get your hands on is common business practice, it just has to be a worthy investment. Most super successful companies have billions of dollars worth of debt, the trick is to keep in proportion to the company's equity.

And if your company isn't the next facebook, microsoft or McDs, you're in trouble. It was a broad, generalizing statement though, I'll give you that. I should have said stay out of debt for stupid shit, like gambling and cars. Borrowing as much as you can get your hands on to invest in a startup isn't necessarily a smart thing either.

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

University is a sham that does nothing but saddle you with debt and give you a piece of paper that may or may not let you get a job slowly going blind as you stare into a computer screen in a cubicle field for 40 years of your life. As a matter of fact, a large number, if not a majority, of millionaires have never set foot in university. It's the will to make money and the people you know that allows one to become wealthy.

Unless your succesful parents are going to pay for your entire college education, and graduate school.

Suck it, less fortunate's. Suck it long, and suck it hard.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by DR.PAPADROPADOCALOPALIS

Unless your succesful parents are going to pay for your entire college education, and graduate school.

Suck it, less fortunate's. Suck it long, and suck it hard.

Successful parents that didn't go to college.

[constantinople]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Successful parents that didn't go to college.

Both of my parents have masters degrees in engineering and a bachelors degree in business management.

[Trix Are For Kids]

Originally Posted by DR.PAPADROPADOCALOPALIS

Both of my parents have masters degrees in engineering and a bachelors degree in business management.

That doesn't make them happy.

[Haiti's Space Agency]

Originally Posted by Trix Are For Kids

That doesn't make them happy.

their sooper successful son does

[Blunderstar]

Originally Posted by Trix Are For Kids

That doesn't make them happy.

I'm so sick of this "money doesn't buy happiness, maaan" shtick that every poor person is obsessed with spouting. I've said it before, but I bought into that same retort for the longest time, until I became self-aware and convinced myself that it was an excuse for laziness.

[Akagi]

Money doesn't buy happiness, it just affords the opportunity.

It's a lot easier to be happy when you're not working a job you hate to barely get by and can actually do what you want in life.

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by Akagi

Money doesn't buy happiness, it just affords the opportunity.

It's a lot easier to be happy when you're not working a job you hate to barely get by and can actually do what you want in life.

This is true. Cash doesn't make me happy, but traveling, concerts, instruments, coffee, prototyping, and books do. You can bullshit your way through and do some of that for free, but it makes it hard. Cash definitely helps. And high enough levels of it grant world-changing power. I see it as a worthwhile goal to make money, but only under the condition that it's in the process of doing something I genuinely enjoy.

[Blunderstar]

Originally Posted by Akagi

Money doesn't buy happiness, it just affords the opportunity.

It's a lot easier to be happy when you're not working a job you hate to barely get by and can actually do what you want in life.

Originally Posted by crazzyass

This is true. Cash doesn't make me happy, but traveling, concerts, instruments, coffee, prototyping, and books do. You can bullshit your way through and do some of that for free, but it makes it hard. Cash definitely helps. And high enough levels of it grant world-changing power. I see it as a worthwhile goal to make money, but only under the condition that it's in the process of doing something I genuinely enjoy.

And these are the follow-up retorts I was expecting. Why is it so hard for people to admit that money brings them happiness? Why do they have to restate it in a way that throws the guilt of wanting money out the window?

"I don't feel happy from the money itself. My happiness derives from the opportunity it can give me, maaaan." Yeah, and that's what money is used for. You're essentially saying you like money, but don't want to admit it so blatantly because of the stigma it comes with.

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by Blunderstar

And these are the follow-up retorts I was expecting. Why is it so hard for people to admit that money brings them happiness? Why do they have to restate it in a way that throws the guilt of wanting money out the window?

"I don't feel happy from the money itself. My happiness derives from the opportunity it can give me, maaaan." Yeah, and that's what money is used for. You're essentially saying you like money, but don't want to admit it so blatantly because of the stigma it comes with.

Dude, I know some people that work shitty jobs that pay really, really well. They have beautiful homes that they only sleep in, expensive cars that they never drive, and a giant savings account that they'll never spend on anything that brings them pleasure.

They keep stacking up the cash and nothing gets better for them.

And all the activities I've listed can be pretty much done on a shoestring budget, which is what I currently do because I'm a student. I am very, very happy doing the things I love. If I had more money, it would be easier for me, but it isn't necessary to be happy.

See the difference?

[Blunderstar]

Originally Posted by crazzyass

Dude, I know some people that work shitty jobs that pay really, really well. They have beautiful homes that they only sleep in, expensive cars that they never drive, and a giant savings account that they'll never spend on anything that brings them pleasure.

They keep stacking up the cash and nothing gets better for them.

And all the activities I've listed can be pretty much done on a shoestring budget, which is what I currently do because I'm a student. I am very, very happy doing the things I love. If I had more money, it would be easier for me, but it isn't necessary to be happy.

See the difference?

Yes. But how does them not using their money decrease the value of it? That's like saying food won't bring you happiness if you're not going to eat it. But I'm not going to say, "Food itself doesn't bring happiness - eating food brings happiness!" because that's clearly implied and ends up being a totally arbitrary and useless statement. There are people who eat too much food. It makes them fat and depressed. But we're not going to blame the food. The food isn't "evil" just because the person didn't use it right, and we can't say it wouldn't have brought them happiness if they did.

I understand what you're saying - I really do. And I've been there. I felt ashamed to admit that money was beautiful - I had to defend myself by claiming that money gives me freedom, and it's actually the freedom I like. But that's so fucking stupid and insecure.

[Struwwelpeter]

Uppity Lowland Retard Misconception #1: Money can buy happiness or serve as a precursor or enabler of it.

Uppity Lowland Retard Misconception #2: Money can afford "world-changing power." (LOL)

[jator]

It's not like not having money makes you happy, come off it poor people.

[Struwwelpeter]

Having absolutely no money (not one dollar) and no possessions is the only way that you can possibly attain happiness.

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by Blunderstar

Yes. But how does them not using their money decrease the value of it? That's like saying food won't bring you happiness if you're not going to eat it. But I'm not going to say, "Food itself doesn't bring happiness - eating food brings happiness!" because that's clearly implied and ends up being a totally arbitrary and useless statement. There are people who eat too much food. It makes them fat and depressed. But we're not going to blame the food. The food isn't "evil" just because the person didn't use it right, and we can't say it wouldn't have brought them happiness if they did.

I understand what you're saying - I really do. And I've been there. I felt ashamed to admit that money was beautiful - I had to defend myself by claiming that money gives me freedom, and it's actually the freedom I like. But that's so fucking stupid and insecure.

All of that money would bring me no happiness whatsoever. I'd prefer my small place with my freedom, hobbies, and friends versus a shitty high-hour, high stress job that pays $250,000 a year. I really would.

Not to even mention all of the college kids I know that said "Doctors make lots of money I will be a doctor!" and are failing out of college because they don't know what a fucking atom is. Money should never, ever be what decides a field for you. Decide what field you love, THEN make money in it.

Studies have shown that when people become rich, whatever state they were in before just gets amplified. If you're a depressed asshole, money makes you a rich depressed asshole. Similarly, happy people have their happiness amplified by money.

It has nothing to do with insecurity. I'm making a legitimate point and you're ad homineming it away by pretending like it's a mental condition.

Edit: Also, no one has referred to money as evil except for you. You have to carefully balance it. Sometimes I'll get in the zone with stocks and working and I'll save up a bunch of money, right? And then I realize that a couple of months have gone by and I haven't lived at all. It kinda sucks. And it makes the money feel empty.

[aquabania]

Originally Posted by Lucifereus

So what you have to do is, go to college, get a degree in an expanding field, and get a job! Make over 100k a year..

worse idea than all the bad ideas in bad ideas put together.


you should call this thread "How to be 60,000 dollars in debt with high interest rates and no bankruptcy protection in exchange for a piece of paper that doesn't mean much at all these days"

[Lucifereus]

Originally Posted by aquabania

worse idea than all the bad ideas in bad ideas put together.


you should call this thread "How to be 60,000 dollars in debt with high interest rates and no bankruptcy protection in exchange for a piece of paper that doesn't mean much at all these days"

If you get your masters degree youll be set. college degrees mean much more now than ever before, have fun at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder your whole life

[Blunderstar]

Originally Posted by crazzyass

All of that money would bring me no happiness whatsoever. I'd prefer my small place with my freedom, hobbies, and friends versus a shitty high-hour, high stress job that pays $250,000 a year. I really would.

You're changing the original scenario. We weren't arguing that having a high stress job that pays a lot of money brings happiness, or that friends and hobbies don't bring happiness.

I can't debate this topic with you any longer - you've made it more than it is. I'm probably coming across as rude but my conversation/debate skills haven't reached the level where I can move this exchange along any further (I wanted to try out some better debating techniques from a book I'm reading, hence my involvement in this thread). You win.

[The real slim spud]

Originally Posted by Painzstake

OMr_duckO if that post was directed at me you are sorely mistaken, because you have obviously never heard of a COB (cashed up bogan) there is a huge influx of retards and shit kickers who are close to retiring, simply because they have been in the mining industry. 100k is around the starting wage because you generally have to move out to some shit hole out in the middle of no where and work something like 16 hour days. It's legit ask any Aussie.

Ill be coming out of BA soon and my plan to earn money is to do this for at least a year. There's a bomb to be made in the mines, and you only need a few qualifications from what I've heard.

[ayingerbrau]

[Akagi]

Originally Posted by Blunderstar

And these are the follow-up retorts I was expecting. Why is it so hard for people to admit that money brings them happiness? Why do they have to restate it in a way that throws the guilt of wanting money out the window?

Because matters are not that simple. You cannot equivocate money with happiness. Although they do correlate, they are not the same thing. You can't buy a house with happiness and numerous people with severe depression could not be cured of it even if they had as much money as they wanted.

I do not feel guilty for wanting money. You need money to survive in society. The more you have, the easier it is to have a better quality life. That's just the way the system works.

What you don't want to do is lose your soul in pursuit of money and end up having the things you wish to own owning you.

[CarbonBV2]

Originally Posted by Lucifereus

Okay so i was just thinking of all these fucking retards who think stealing a quick buck is a good way to make money. So what you have to do is, go to college, get a degree in an expanding field, and get a job! Make over 100k a year..


tl;dr: Go to college you degenerate fucks.

What a moron.