Man Cures Cancer with Apricot Seeds - FDA Arrests Man for Big Pharma

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by ate

1) I'm not batshit insane

This statement should count as trolling.

2) Mickey Mouse mysticism bullshit doesn't belong here,

Followed by

shame on your for confusing relative, highly intellectual fields of observation of the connection between life and matter with your topic. The quantum fields of consciousness, and the capabilities of the human body have nothing to do with your inability to produce a responsible, experienced, and working view of the situation, other than what has already been established for you by the legalized system.

Because then you will understand that no one's lying to you, but the people who are insisting that they're the only truth and the one and only safe way.

Question ate: is there anything such as absolute truth?

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Originally Posted by crazzyass

Answer my question. By ignoring me you're proving me right.

What does co2 have to do with anything? I don't recall the video saying that anyway. If you are referring to the trace amounts in the atmosphere....then why would I waste my time responding to you?

[dead]

Originally Posted by crazzyass

You're as bad as the most fundamental Christian.

I was thinking this the whole time

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by Megalodon

I'd rather try eating some seeds than have my body irradiated to shit and lose all my hair and have to take medicine for the treatment because I'll be sick as hell afterward.

Maybe you should breathe in some carbon dioxide, because assuming your logic is consistent carbon dioxide reduces tumors, doesn't it?

Say yes or no. No bullshit. Give an answer.

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by Megalodon

What does co2 have to do with anything? I don't recall the video saying that anyway. If you are referring to the trace amounts in the atmosphere....then why would I waste my time responding to you?

He ate apricots and his tumor allegedly shrank sometime after that.

It is overwhelmingly likely that he breathed in carbon dioxide and his tumor allegedly shrank sometime after that.


Which was it? The carbon dioxide or the apricot?

If your head doesn't explode from the seeming paradox, then you're finally ready to learn some middle school science: the difference between correlation and causation. Yay!

[Mr.Happy]

To be fair, he'd been breathing CO2 his whole life and gotten cancer and seen it get worse, but the apricot seeds were a new variable. The CO2 argument isn't amazingly solid, although it's telling that it's opponents can't see the point I just made.

[reject]

Maybe anal sex is the variable.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Originally Posted by crazzyass

He ate apricots and his tumor allegedly shrank sometime after that.

It is overwhelmingly likely that he breathed in carbon dioxide and his tumor allegedly shrank sometime after that.


Which was it? The carbon dioxide or the apricot?

If your head doesn't explode from the seeming paradox, then you're finally ready to learn some middle school science: the difference between correlation and causation. Yay!

Ok first of all, where are you getting this from? where does it mention him breathing in carbon dioxide? either I missed it or it's not there.

Second, since when does breathing in carbon dioxide help shrink tumors? you're awfully quick to believe that when the video is about apricot seeds not carbon dioxide.

[reject]

Originally Posted by Megalodon

Ok first of all, where are you getting this from? where does it mention him breathing in carbon dioxide?

[Figure-8]

Originally Posted by dead

Sorry, I didn't read much into- true. But you do have a reputation and it really does hurt your credibility. It's my fault the conversation devolved to that, but you must admit it wasn't a coincidence that you were on the other end.

^^^sig it

Meh. I suppose. A lot of the reputation is from the modding though, because of the paranormal spammers and the probably overreacted response from us.

Either way, let's think in the now, I've said plenty of things on zoklet, now I'm just saying that nature can cure.

If cannabis can cure, then what is it in the plant?

If natural vegetables can do it, then what are they doing?

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1037034.html

He’s "a healer, not a dealer’

Man who claims his hemp oil cures cancer says he’s leaving Canada after fine for trafficking in medical pot
By TOM McCOAG Amherst Bureau
Sat. Feb 9 - 5:11 AM

AMHERST — A Maccan-area man who insists he has found the cure for cancer says he is leaving Canada for an unnamed country where he can live without fear of persecution or prosecution for taking and producing medicinal marijuana.

"I can’t live in a country where I and others are labelled as criminals because of our medical need for this (marijuana) medication," Ricky Logan Simpson, 58, said Friday. "I’ve decided that after five years of trying to bring my medicine to the people, I don’t like the way this country is run. It seems that the health and welfare of the people means nothing to the (politicians) in Ottawa."

Mr. Simpson made the comments outside Nova Scotia Supreme Court moments after Justice Felix Cacchione fined him $2,000 and sentenced him to one day in jail, considered served by his court appearance, for producing marijuana and possessing less than three kilograms of tetrahydrocannabinol for the purpose of trafficking. Tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, is the main active ingredient in marijuana.

A charge of possessing less than 30 grams of marijuana was stayed.

Mr. Simpson was given six months to pay the fine.

A crowd of about 30 supporters in the courtroom applauded loudly when the sentence was handed down. As sheriff’s deputies tried to quiet them, one man yelled, "Rick Simpson is a healer, not a dealer."

Outside the courtroom, Chummy Anthony, president of the Nova Scotia Marijuana Party, held a sign bearing similar wording. He was upset that Mr. Simpson wasn’t simply given a discharge. He was yelling at the top of his lungs that "Mr. Simpson was just like Jesus Christ, because just like Jesus Christ, he was being prosecuted and persecuted for helping sick people."

A woman stood beside him holding up a DVD titled The Run from the Cure: The Rick Simpson Story. The DVD details Mr. Simpson’s court battles and his efforts — including running in the last federal election — to have federal medical marijuana laws changed. Mr. Simpson was seen distributing the DVD to people before his sentencing.

Afterward, Mr. Simpson hugged and shook hands with supporters as he left the courtroom a free man. One man pledged that Mr. Simpson will not have to pay the fine because "all the people he’s helped will chip in money to make sure it’s paid."

A Supreme Court jury found Mr. Simpson guilty in September after a five-day trial. The charges stemmed from an RCMP raid on his Little Forks Road property on Aug. 3, 2005, that netted 1,190 marijuana plants.

Mr. Simpson admitted at trial to growing marijuana on his property and using it to create a hemp oil that he claims cures everything from cankers to cancer. He distributed the hemp oil free to about 300 patients.

Even after the trial ended with a guilty verdict, Mr. Simpson pledged to continue making and distributing the hemp oil.

It was his contempt for the law, and the size of the marijuana seizure — described as one of the biggest in the province — that led Crown attorney Monica MacQueen to recommend a two-year jail sentence for Mr. Simpson. Defence lawyer Duncan Beveridge suggested an unconditional discharge, saying his client did not profit from his marijuana operation.

Justice Cacchione called the trial the most unique drug case he has ever presided over. He said he’d never heard of a drug trafficker telling police of his plans, or of a dealer who didn’t earn a profit from his trafficking.

"Mr. Simpson’s actions were entirely altruistic," the judge said. "There was nothing insidious in what Mr. Simpson did."

He acted out of a strongly held belief in the medicinal value of marijuana and a steadfast conviction that the hemp oil he made was helping people alleviate their suffering from a variety of ailments that prescription drugs were having little impact upon, the judge said.

But he said he couldn’t grant a discharge because Mr. Simpson chose to grow marijuana and distribute his hemp oil illegally instead of participating in the federal government’s medical marijuana program.

Ms. MacQueen said it was too early to say if the Crown will appeal.

Mr. Simpson’s legal woes are not over. He is to appear in Amherst provincial court on Feb. 28 to face another trafficking charge that Amherst police laid in November.

Originally Posted by crazzyass

I do challenge the system,

How have you challenged the system in your thinking or action?

What new information have you found?

Originally Posted by crazzyass

however your mindset is the same type of ignorance that plagues most people.

How is my thinking or action ignorant in comparison to yours and your actions? What have I done that you haven't, and what have you done that I haven't?

How is the peace and health that is found in nature plaguing people?

Who is being plagued and why aren't they trying to find a cure what is ailing them?

[b]If I'm incorrect, then why are all these people who are supposed to be dead, suffering, and dying, alive, happy and well.

What is wrong with that picture? Are these people stupid? Like me? Even though I'm supporting them?

Ok, so then you consider the people who are dying of cancer but cannot use marijuana because they haven't found it and no one will tell them, more intelligent?

That's irrelevant.

Originally Posted by crazzyass

You aren't enlightened.

1) What are you?

2) What is enlightenment?

3) Why do you think I'm enlightened?

4) Why am I not enlightened?

Originally Posted by crazzyass

You're as bad as the most fundamental Christian.

By bringing out the truth that no one will hold, accepting nature and standing up for those who aren't getting any help from the indoctrinated masses(oxymoron) (how kind of you to blend in)?

I think I'm a bit different from the people who believe in a falsely and largely altered series of truthful observations made during earlier religious periods involving contact with ascended beings originating from an extra-terrestrial location in time and space. No, I feel I'm different from those pastors who damn their fellow human Muslims to hell.

I don't feel you are too different though. You are both persecuting people, you are both not really helping solve anything, and you are both taking up precious time and attention from the people, instead of putting it back in the hearts of people where it belongs

That will happen from fighting this battle with the winning side, when you feel you are ready.

Originally Posted by crazzyass

I'll ask again: where is your proof that the apricot shrunk the tumor?

I am not here to offer you proof, but I am here to tell you a story.

If you want to take the irrelevance of proof, when we clearly cannot obtain direct proof via the internet, nor through the agencies who are directly controlled by those who benefit from the avoidance of such information and evidence, then fine.

But use your mind, you read the news articles above and see for yourself how no agency or government party would [i] even go near the man claiming to have healed himself with THC. They wouldn't even give him a response in some cases.

Literally, you think you're playing fair by lying to yourself and hopping on the cheating side? I don't think so.

So you're not playing fair by asking for proof, when I can't be the one to give you proof.

[b]I'm not the guy claiming to have cured his ailments with apricot seeds, I am the person who claims to cure every ailment he has using natural substances. I am the person referring to you the testimony of many people who claim to have used natural substances to cure their ailments.

I am telling you the stories of these people, and my self, whether you want to believe me or them for whatever reasons, is up to you.

But know, there is a difference in intelligence between those believing in things because they have experience, and those who don't believe in things because they don't have experience.

It's fine to do that, but when all you do is not have experience and don't believe in things (as you have in this situation), then you won't get anywhere new.

At first, you'd have to experiment for yourself, it's no hidden secret that others won't help you, lot's of people won't even agree with you, lol, some will even attack you for rattling their cage!

Like they have the tough job!

But the idea is that the proof is there, it will never make you believe because you'll keep calling it fake or repeating your skeptical expression.

Just think, what does skeptical thinking have to do with these experiments these people have done

Where does it fit in now that they don't have any more pain?

Now, that's where you want to be. But you're not there and you haven't got there. That's where you can be if you start thinking for yourself, nothing anyone will say will ever be able to take away from that.

Because in truth, the companies and Dr.'s have been lied to and confused, and no one's going to help you but you. Or me.

Or these guys.

Originally Posted by distortion

Yeah and people were riddled with 100x more disease before we had all these techy and medical advances.

Like what? What would you are I have now?

Originally Posted by distortion

And many of those disease were treated with artificially produced vaccines and chemicals that aren't found in nature.

Exactly, they are artificially removed, maybe that's why diseases keep popping up in those that don't know how to live in the flow of nature? IE: not going against is mentally, emotionally, or physically, and creating a disturbance.

It has been proven that concentrated cannabis oil cures cancer.


Cannabis Cancer CURE Study: Colorado New Report

Why hasn't The U.S. National Cancer Institute or The American Cancer Society tested Cannabis Oil?. Is it lack of personnel (2,100 USNCI staff members) or limited financial support (USNCI 2010 budget of $5.1 Billion dollars!)

Cannabis Concentrate or extract is the same as Rick Simpson's "Hemp Oil". Hemp seed oil is NOT what Rick Simpson is making and using.

Google "cannabinoids" and "cancer".
Google "endocannabinoids" and "cancer"
Google "THC" and "Cancer".
Google pubmed, go there and look up "endocannabinoids" and "cancer", as well as "cannabinoids" and "cancer".
Google Dr. Robert Dr Robert Melamede and cancer".

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And you're defending these people. And siding with them, receiving similar fate, mind you.


HELPLESS, TEARS: Dealer says load of crab "contaminated with oil" -- STATE TRYING TO COVER IT UP

[youtube]LhUS_5FwNzw[/youtube]

*Tears and a feeling of helplessness*

When looking at a load of newly delivered crab, the smell "knocked us down," St. Bernard Parish seafood dealer Kevin Heier told Fox 8 New Orleans.

"Heier believes the crabs were contaminated with oil," according to Fox 8.

Heier was "in total shock" and had never seen anything like this before. Neither had his colleague who's been in the crab business for 60 years.

They contacted the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries, reported Fox 8 and Heier said, "We got a biologist that was supposed to come here. About an hour passed and he never showed up, so we called the biologist and he said my superior stopped me from coming."

Fox 8 added that Heier said that after more than 24 hours "the catch can not be tested because all of the crabs have since died." "They died already," said another dealer.

Heier told Fox 8, "It's like we can't get help from nobody."

"Wildlife and Fisheries" said it will test the crabs if new samples are collected tomorrow.

"St. Bernard fishermen, though, are convinced the crabs are full of oil and they believe the test results will prove their case," the report concludes.

Read the report here: Suspected oiled crabs, Fox 8 New Orleans, September 15, 2010 at 12:38 a.m. EDT

Watch that, or else.

You won't know what we're talking about.

I'll post'em when I find them. And I'll repost this to make sure you know.

But this is interesting too.

: D: D: D: D: D: D: D: D: D: D: D: D: D: D: D

LOL! Look at the typical responses! Even from someone [i]defending the cure that she/he used, the physical one were you radiate and cut everything out! Then she/he talked about it in a bad way like "maybe it could've then saved these people (friends family) if they knew about the cure.

Pretty much making fun of it! So you see someone who doesn't know, pushing more people into not knowing!

Yet you don't see the people who also had cancer and probably knew people who died, that survived using it saying the same thing. Why is that..

http://www.fluther.com/19295/why-is-...-cures-cancer/

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Originally Posted by crazzyass

This statement should count as trolling.

Anything else that you want to happen that likely won't?

Originally Posted by crazzyass

is there anything such as absolute truth?

If you can imagine it....although...would that even be absolute at that point? If there is no absolute truth...is that the absolute truth?

"The quantum fields of consciousness, and the capabilities of the human"

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by Mr.Happy

To be fair, he'd been breathing CO2 his whole life and gotten cancer and seen it get worse, but the apricot seeds were a new variable. The CO2 argument isn't amazingly solid, although it's telling that it's opponents can't see the point I just made.

Shhh...they'll never learn anything if you give it all away.

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by ate

Way longer post than necessary to answer a simple question, blah blah blah

Enlightenment is knowing, and you've made it clear you despise anything other than blissful ignorance.

Where is the evidence that the apricots shrank his tumor?

[AdMech]

Originally Posted by Mr.Happy

To be fair, he'd been breathing CO2 his whole life and gotten cancer and seen it get worse, but the apricot seeds were a new variable.

Maybe it was all the fluorescent lighting in the hospitals, then.

Originally Posted by Megalodon

Ok first of all, where are you getting this from? where does it mention him breathing in carbon dioxide? either I missed it or it's not there.

He's saying that perhaps the tumor would have shrunk on its own, or shrunk for an entirely different reason. It's a fair point; sometimes tumors do just disappear.

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by ate

Anything else that you want to happen that likely won't?



If you can imagine it....although...would that even be absolute at that point? If there is no absolute truth...is that the absolute truth?

"The quantum fields of consciousness, and the capabilities of the human"

No. None of that. Yes or no.

Is there absolute truth? Yes or no answer ate.

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by Megalodon

Ok first of all, where are you getting this from? where does it mention him breathing in carbon dioxide? either I missed it or it's not there.

Second, since when does breathing in carbon dioxide help shrink tumors? you're awfully quick to believe that when the video is about apricot seeds not carbon dioxide.

My work here is done.

[crazzyass]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality

[The Better Version]

Originally Posted by Chi

They should have the right to know whether the substance is going to destroy their bodies or help them, you atrocious fucking faggot.

....Said the little boy who doesn't know how to read.

[Vargus]

Originally Posted by distortion

If he didn't advertise his shit as a cure for cancer then he wouldn't be in this mess.

This is why the 'miracle cures' you see on TV have a disclaimer stating their claims are not backed up by the FDA.

[The Better Version]

Originally Posted by crazzyass

First off, that's what you get for being a douchebag.

Secondly, the FDA should and does have that power. He was possibly poisoning people. Putting a footnote on their website that says "btw, this shit'll kill you lol" won't stop him from poisoning/scamming people. Shutting him down does.

It wouldn't stop him from selling them, but it would stop most people from using them to cure cancer. Anyone who does and dies....Well, that's called Darwinism.

Listen, I'm not arguing against the fact that the FDA should at least disclose the information, regarding the hazards of consuming copious amounts of apricot seeds. Its important for people to know stuff like that. However, they didn't simply state their own official opinion. They shut the guy down and then went further by prosecuting him, in which he could face up to 20 fucking years.

God, don't you people care about true and genuine freedom? I mean, we sit here and preach all day about how we're supporters of it, yet we're perfectly content in locking someone up because they sold seeds. We should counter our opponents with knowledge, unless there is an immediate physical threat, such as the dumb ass who shot that Congresswoman. Otherwise, we're really not free. If we're content in letting institutions make decisions for us, then we're nothing but a giant heap of worthless slaves who can't even think for ourselves.

This isn't about whether or not the guy was right in selling the seeds and even going so far as to mislead his customers. Of course he was wrong. But, that was a mistake that he should have been allowed to make and the customers who bought his seeds should also have that right. The FDA should only have the right to counter his claims. By doing this, people now have the choice as to whether or not they want to trust the man with the seeds or the governmental institution thats screaming "Hey dipshit! Don't eat the seeds." The FDA is hindering our choices. That's what this means to me. The freedom to make REAL choices, not just choices that are set forth by the FDA. I want the freedom to be an idiot. I want the freedom to be able to make bad choices.

[AdMech]

Originally Posted by The Better Version

Listen, I'm not arguing against the fact that the FDA should at least disclose the information, regarding the hazards of consuming copious amounts of apricot seeds. Its important for people to know stuff like that. However, they didn't simply state their own official opinion. They shut the guy down and then went further by prosecuting him, in which he could face up to 20 fucking years.

...The freedom to make REAL choices, not just choices that are set forth by the FDA.

If someone sold you a car with defective brakes and you got in an accident, would you be saying "sure, the Better Business Bureau [or whatever] should be able to counter their claims, but they shouldn't shut them down or prosecute them!"?

No, somehow I don't think you should be. False advertising has very real dangers, and that's why it's not tolerated. This isn't about freedom; this is about danger and misinformation.

You can still eat apricot seeds for cancer, so no one is limiting your freedom in any case. I would agree if they were banning the consumption of apricot seeds, of course, but they're not.

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by The Better Version

It wouldn't stop him from selling them, but it would stop most people from using them to cure cancer. Anyone who does and dies....Well, that's called Darwinism.

Because people dying of terminal cancer are in their right minds?

And I don't know if you're missing it or just plain ignoring it, but he can sell apricot seeds all he damned well wants. You understand this right? You can comprehend what I've just typed? He can sell them. He cannot, however, claim them to be a cure for cancer. That's all he was asked to stop doing. Stop selling a false cure. Selling apricot seeds is completely different from that.

He could've sold it as a "supplement" and gotten away with it with a disclaimer. But he didn't. So stop acting like Storm Troopers kicked his door in and dragged him off to see the Emperor.

Listen, I'm not arguing against the fact that the FDA should at least disclose the information, regarding the hazards of consuming copious amounts of apricot seeds. Its important for people to know stuff like that. However, they didn't simply state their own official opinion. They shut the guy down and then went further by prosecuting him, in which he could face up to 20 fucking years.

God, don't you people care about true and genuine freedom? I mean, we sit here and preach all day about how we're supporters of it, yet we're perfectly content in locking someone up because they sold seeds. We should counter our opponents with knowledge, unless there is an immediate physical threat, such as the dumb ass who shot that Congresswoman. Otherwise, we're really not free. If we're content in letting institutions make decisions for us, then we're nothing but a giant heap of worthless slaves who can't even think for ourselves.

This isn't about whether or not the guy was right in selling the seeds and even going so far as to mislead his customers. Of course he was wrong. But, that was a mistake that he should have been allowed to make and the customers who bought his seeds should also have that right. The FDA should only have the right to counter his claims. By doing this, people now have the choice as to whether or not they want to trust the man with the seeds or the governmental institution thats screaming "Hey dipshit! Don't eat the seeds." The FDA is hindering our choices. That's what this means to me. The freedom to make REAL choices, not just choices that are set forth by the FDA.

The Man gettin' ya down, brah?

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by AdMech

If someone sold you a car with defective brakes and you got in an accident, would you be saying "sure, the Better Business Bureau [or whatever] should be able to counter their claims, but they shouldn't shut them down or prosecute them!"?

No, somehow I don't think you should be. False advertising has very real dangers, and that's why it's not tolerated. This isn't about freedom; this is about danger and misinformation.

You can still eat apricot seeds for cancer, so no one is limiting your freedom in any case. I would agree if they were banning the consumption of apricot seeds, of course, but they're not.

This

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Originally Posted by crazzyass

Enlightenment is knowing, and you've made it clear you despise anything other than blissful ignorance.

Knowing what? Knowing is a lot of it, but intuition often guides us to knowing what we do. Wouldn't you say?

And where does intuition stand in the eyes of science?

Originally Posted by AdMech

Maybe it was all the fluorescent lighting in the hospitals, then.

Studies worldwide prove that if schools and workplaces were lit with sunlight or full-spectrum bulbs kids would do better in school, and rates of depression and suicide would drop everywhere, from colleges to prisons.

http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2007/01/81805.html

Lack of ultraviolet during the winter is the single biggest reason for depression.

http://www.consumerhealth.org/articl...20000102232127

53% of those who suffered from anxiety felt that their attacks got worse when they saw fluorescent lights.

http://www.stop-anxiety-panic-attack...ts-and-anxiety

[quote]'
Life under fluorescent light is harming prisoners and staff alike'

Imagine living up to 23 hours a day in a confined space the size of the average bathroom complete with open toilet, under a humming fluorescent tube that is your only available light source.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...6/publicvoices

There is a wealth of research indicating that the ergonomics of an environment significantly improve or retard individual and group learning performance. These elements include light, sound enhancement, color, room design, temperature, and instructional design and energy distribution. What follows is a discussion on the element of "light" as a contributor to the enhancement of learning performance and achievement. (I draw heavily from the brilliant and sensitive work of Dr. Jacob Liberman and encourage you to read his book Light: Medicine of the Future (Bear and Co. 1991), for an in-depth discussion and analysis of the research referenced in the following overview.)

http://www.fullspectrumsolutions.com..._schools.shtml

What does this information imply? What does it prove? What is likely to be concluded?

What kinds of lights are used to this day all across the field?

Originally Posted by AdMech

He's saying that perhaps the tumor would have shrunk on its own, or shrunk for an entirely different reason. It's a fair point; sometimes tumors do just disappear.

Yes, but that's different from assuming something randomly. I mean, he had been taking co2 all his life, what about apricots though?

Coincidence?

Originally Posted by crazzyass

No. None of that. Yes or no.

Is there absolute truth? Yes or no answer ate.

In my opinion there is, but it is so vast we cannot comprehend it.

And that in reality, there isn't, because the universe is so infinite it will always be changing.

But in all honesty, there is some kind of eternally prevalent original force that pushes universal entropy or expansion.

I think that is the closest thing to anything, but that, in itself, is everything and thus breaks the observer/object, defined question/defined answer relationship.

Maybe you can't answer that question, as it is both answers.

It is a duality breaker? A paradox? What do you think the answer is?

[Vizier]

Somebody archive this thread.

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by ate

And where does intuition stand in the eyes of science?

I've heard it described as a combination of instinct and subconscious cues.

What does this information imply? What does it prove? What is likely to be concluded?

It means that exposure to certain types of light result in different chemical releases. That is all, ate.

Yes, but that's different from assuming something randomly. I mean, he had been taking co2 all his life, what about apricots though?

Coincidence?

First, there is no evidence that his tumor shrank.

Second, assuming it did, the apricots could be everything or they could be nothing. Correlation does not imply causation in any way. Maybe the neurochemical released in his brain that made him want to try apricots is the same one that reacted in such a way in his body that it reduced tumor size and/or boosted the immune system. Or far more likely, he is a scam artist. A pathetic one given his terminal condition, but a scam artist nonetheless.

What do you think the answer is?

I think there is absolute truth. I think it is measurable and quantifiable and testable. I think that our models are not perfect representations, and that perfect representations are impossible. However we can get close enough that it practically doesn't matter.

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Originally Posted by crazzyass

I've heard it described as a combination of instinct and subconscious cues.

Interesting, does that correlate with what you experience in your own life?

It means that exposure to certain types of light result in different chemical releases. That is all, ate.

So then the difference between lower states of mind and being, and those of a more balanced nature containing the potential for higher states of peace, aren't important to you?

And you don't think people with large amount of technological capabilities at their hands would not invest time or energy to align their lives and experience with the results of such studies and conclusions?

Originally Posted by crazzyass

First, there is no evidence that his tumor shrank.

So is he lying about cancer, or just that it was getting better?

Are all the other naturalists lying, or just he?

Originally Posted by crazzyass

Second, assuming it did, the apricots could be everything or they could be nothing.

Yes, but if they're nothing, it's a coincidence.

Could it be that they were nothing, but his belief in them created a placebo affect which utilized them, consciously?

Originally Posted by crazzyass

Or far more likely, he is a scam artist.

So is it likely that all the other naturalists are scam-artists to? Or just this guy?

Originally Posted by crazzyass

I think there is absolute truth. I think it is measurable and quantifiable and testable.

Interesting, I would be honored to converse this in another thread. I have some interesting questions like:

Could the entire universe be measured? If so, what would it be in comparison to?

Can you measure emotion? Enjoyment? Focus? Experience?

Is there anything that can't be measured?

But I think that is too large of a subject to open up here, as it will likely expand quickly and become something else. This thread can be a reminder to people of the diversity in belief and experience on this planet.

[Vizier]

Why do you always answer with another question? That's pretty much an asshole thing to do imo.

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From that link above, "Why is Hemp Oil illegal when it cures cancer?"



This one's interesting:

If Hemp Oil cured cancer, there would be 3 million people placing orders for it tonight: Tomorrow, cancer research foundations, hospitals, manufacturers etc would be out of business.

But at best, 6 people will google it, 10 will laugh, 5 will fluther, and 0 will order it.

For most cancer patients, I’d suggest becoming acquainted with God. There IS research that backs up the claim that prayer helps terminal patients… it doesn’t cure them: No no, but instead it helps ease the pain (physical) and helps push people towards the acceptance phase of dying, which is always helpful.

Debbie
There is a difference between hemp seed oil (witch has no THC content) and hemp oil, that is all THC. Pure THC oil is illegal even where medical marijuana is legal. Gee I wonder why that is. Could it be cause of the big bucks the medical world makes off disease. Think about it. Think hard, than start asking questions. Its time to get LOUD

so i have researched this subject and have found the answer. first off to understand anything you must watch the video called phoenix tears “run from the cure for cancer” and research hemp oil before you automatically assume that you understand the subject because you are deeply mistaken. hemp oil does cure cancer and other terminal illnesses. you do not smoke it you can inject, vaporize, or use a topical application to find it effective. and by the way you dont get a “high” from it. the reason why its not commonly heard is because hemp oil cannot be pattoned because its natural, therefore drug companies and chemotherapy and everything in the 300 million cancer business would be no more. do you get it doctors and drug companies would lose millions because people could be self suffient we could cure ourselves. but i cant tell you what to believe you have to find out for yourself so educate yourself before you automatically assume that you are right.

When you say research, you need to distinguish that from propaganda. Show me one single citiation from a scientific study or reputable organization that is not involved in the sale of hemp oil products.

(Just about all testimony)

To those of you who embrace truth, good for you! If and when you get cancer you can cure it yourself instead of being poisoned to death by chemotherapy. For the rest of you…

It is sad how many people deny something that is so true, and does have scientific evidence to back it up. This site obviously has a lot of blind leading the blind. There is something on the internet called Google, and there you can type THC and CANCER and see for yourself what cannabis can do for medical conditions, but only smart people really do this and the rest open their mouths to show the world how ignorant they are! (Those are the people who “RUN FROM THE CURE”)

It is not injected, but INGESTED hemp oil (cannabis extract containing high levels of THC and other cannabinoids) that cures cancer. Smoked cannabis can do certain things like lower occular pressure in glaucoma patients and also relieve some pain and nausea; however, the smoking of cannabis is by far the least medicinal way to use it.

Read some real research and don’t give to the Cancer Societies because they don’t want you cured or they will have to close up shop and stop accepting millions of dollars to spend on anything except a cure. Case in point… how many years have they accepted money?? What cure have THEY provided??

It’s time to wake up the sheep, and if you doubt any of this you ARE the sheep. But for those of you who have an open mind to research, do the google thing, and read up… and don’t worry too much about the nay sayers… after all you can’t fix stupid.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=THC+Cancer&meta=

http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/s...man-Cancer.pdf

http://www.sethgroup.org

http://www.nowpublic.com/thc_marijua..._harvard_study

http://www.geocities.com/runfromthecure/research.html

And I wouldn’t have made the video if this WASN’T true. Some of us have more sense than others.

http://www.phoenixtears.ca

http://www.phoenixtearsmovie.com

I clearly stated that smoking is not the cure, but ingesting hemp oil with high concentrations of THC. I applaud you for taking the time to tell us you are smoking marijuana, but maybe next time you could save the joint for after the discussion because it might help you to stay on track with what is being said. THC, the medicinal part of cannabis, cures cancer. 60 mL of properly made hemp oil cures most serious cancers in less than 3 months.

I am trying to help people here and having ignorant people get in the way of that is an injustice to them, not to me.

Cannabis cures cancer, not smoked cannabis, but ingested cannabis extract. We call it hemp oil, but hemp, cannabis, marijuiana, it is all the same thing.

The very fact that you deny that THC cures cancer, and that
you call me ignorant for saying it, shows how ridiculus this website is and how foolish I am to come to it to try to help. I hope you people realize what kind of contributor you have here and anyone who listens to this person is in for a sad reality one day.

It only takes one idiot to ruin the bunch. Contact us if you want truth. If you don’t want to be educated on how cannabis cures cancer, that’s totally fine with me, but denying it won’t make it any less factual.

The answer to why it is illegal, is money. A lot of money is being made keeping it illegal and those are the people who want it left that way.

There is a difference between hemp seed oil (witch has no THC content) and hemp oil, that is all THC. Pure THC oil is illegal even where medical marijuana is legal. Gee I wonder why that is. Could it be cause of the big bucks the medical world makes off disease. Think about it. Think hard, than start asking questions. Its time to get LOUD

The endocanabinoid system in our bodies regulate our cancer defense – so it makes sense that cannabis works effectively in this area, and the science backs that up.

For those who dispute the fact that cannabis can cure cancer, I would like to refer you to numerous studies (since 1974!) that show that cannabinoids kills cancer cells, shrink tumors, halts the spread of invasive carcinomas, and prevents occurrence. I don’t know if you have the energy or the interest to follow up these links, but if you do value truth over hearsay and propaganda, then I would suggest you look at them. First you have to ask yourself: why don’t you know about this? (Then you should get really, really angry).

Original Univ of Va study showing that THC halts lewis lung adenocarcinoma:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...&dopt=Citation

London study showing THC causes kills leukemia cells.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15454482

University of Texas study showing the CB1 receptor (which is activated by cannabis) suppresses colorectal cancer tumor, when the receptor is lost cancer can occur.
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cg...act/68/15/6468

Univ of Southern Florida study showing that cannabis blocks cancer causing viruses:
http://news.bio-medicine.org/biology...viruses-115-1/

Harvard study showing cannabis cuts lung cancer growth in half:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0417193338.htm

The British Journal of Cancer reports that cannabis treats prostate cancer
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0417193338.htm

Researchers at the California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute found that cannabis halts breast cancer.
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/...is-cancer.html

A large population study of chronic cannabis smokers found that they had a REDUCED risk of head, neck and throat cancers when compared to those that did not use cannabis.
http://cancerpreventionresearch.aacr...CAPR-09-0048v1

Spanish study showing that THC inhibits gliomas (brain cancer).
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cg...full/68/6/1945

Want more links? Here is a much more comprehensive list compiled by a wonderful woman who calls herself Granny Storm Crow:
http://forum.grasscity.com/medical-m...ly-2009-a.html

As for me, I am on my way to get some hemp oil for my 99 year old aunt with uterine cancer. Debbie’s point was that THC hemp oil should NOT be illegal. It is criminal that it is illegal. Also, I live in California, and believe me it is not so easy to get or to make, since the process involves distillation with solvents and heat. Also, because of our laws, hemp, which should cost a few dollars a pound, costs thousands! 60ml of good quality THC hemp oil requires a full pound of buds, and 5 gallons of solvents. We need our laws changed – NOW!

Hezett's avatar

I have spent a year trying to DEBUNK this cure so that I can see why the naysayers say it is not possible.
I can’t find the links you people are seeing unless it is fro the CIA/FBI/DEA website.
Personally I have found website after website strengthening the argument that yes, marijuana properly prepared can cure cancer.
I am saddened by the lack of awareness.
I am a cancer survivor, I found out about this cure about a year after I had surgery to remove my thyroid gland, and guess what? I would have been much better off if i had found this cure BEFORE being diagnosed with cancer instead of after.
Most people seem to think that since they have no cancer they have no need for this information, but it is a lot better to arm yourself with the knowledge NOW so you can keep yourself from signing the consent for surgery form.
The doctors told me i’d be fine as long as i eat this pill every day. Well guess what? I feel like garbage. all the time. I have 0 quality of life, and I guess i’m stuck with that.
lie #1
I asked then WHY i had gotten cancer in the first place. They told me BAD LUCK.
So, they don’t even know if they are on foot or horseback, and because of that, I refuse to trust them with anything cancer related ever again.
Not only does it cure cancer but I have seen proof that it also helps MS and Fibromyalgia and even Crohns.
Here’s one thing you all should ask yourselves: How much money did Rick Simpson, discoverer of this cure, Charge all the patients he helped?
The answer is 0.

Why is this? if it was not true wouldn’t he be in it for a quick buck?
like everyone else?
Chrychek, I applaud you and your efforts.

[Figure-8]

Originally Posted by Vizier

Why do you always answer with another question? That's pretty much an asshole thing to do imo.

If you want to make another thread for that, and play that game, I can show you where any defined answer to an improperly defined, and potentially undefinable question contains gaps in correlation to actual life experience.

[crazzyass]

Originally Posted by ate

Interesting, does that correlate with what you experience in your own life?

It does, as best as I can tell.

So then the difference between lower states of mind and being, and those of a more balanced nature containing the potential for higher states of peace, aren't important to you?

And you don't think people with large amount of technological capabilities at their hands would not invest time or energy to align their lives and experience with the results of such studies and conclusions?

I didn't say it wasn't important, just that the explanation is very simple.

And people do invest the time and energy; it's called ergonomics. Some offices do utilize large windows for more sunlight to increase productivity.

So is he lying about cancer, or just that it was getting better?

Are all the other naturalists lying, or just he?

He's the only one talking about apricots that I know of and have heard. And yes, he could easily be lying or using the events that did happen to make money when really the apricot seeds played no real role.

Yes, but if they're nothing, it's a coincidence.

Could it be that they were nothing, but his belief in them created a placebo affect which utilized them, consciously?

The placebo effect has been shown to play a role, yes. Not consciously though. It seems unlikely that he consciously told his healthy cells to attack the cancerous ones.

So is it likely that all the other naturalists are scam-artists to? Or just this guy?

Or misinformed.

Interesting, I would be honored to converse this in another thread. I have some interesting questions like:

Could the entire universe be measured? If so, what would it be in comparison to?

Can you measure emotion? Enjoyment? Focus? Experience?

Is there anything that can't be measured?

But I think that is too large of a subject to open up here, as it will likely expand quickly and become something else. This thread can be a reminder to people of the diversity in belief and experience on this planet.

I would be honored as well to continue it in another thread.

[zTi]

where the fuck you even find apricot seeds, I dont seen none of them growning around the dirty anywhore.


Oranges

[Actor]

Vitamin B-17

[reject]

I was hoping I'd never see this batshit insanity again.

[Captain Falcon]

ITT: Propaganda

[Danger]

The people defending the government in this thread are the real terrorists. What's your 4th of July about these days? To celebrate the fact that America was once a free country?

You spineless fish who thank big brother for taking away every right you have, including freedom of speech, and locking up someone who thought they had "rights" make me sick..

Land of the free? fucking pathetic.

[Figure-8]

Strange ya know. This guy might actually be right, and everyone can see there is something wrong with the industry.

Burzynski: Cancer is Serious Business FDA Tyranny

Burzynski: Cancer is Serious Business FDA Tyranny
Video: click to display

[Danger]

Cancer Cure DCA Sodium Dichloroacetate (DCA) - The Cancer Cure!! MUST SEE!!! - YouTube

Cancer Cure DCA Sodium Dichloroacetate (DCA) - The Cancer Cure!! MUST SEE!!! - YouTube
Video: click to display

No profit for big pharma?? No thanks.

[heyitsbryan]

A harsh sentence, not to say that he didn't deserve any punishment at all forpractically scamming (albeit perhaps unintentionally) the cancer community, but he didn't deserve a 20 year sentence.

This article says he did 63 months (5 years & 3 months) instead: http://www.apricotsfromgod.info/jvale/.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

hey guys you wanna know the real conspiracy? maybe you're getting cancer because the products you buy/consume aren't good for your body. derp.

maybe instead of looking for a cure (you actually need like thousands of individual cures, if I'm not mistaken) so much, we could be figuring out how to prevent it from happening. maybe start by *gasp* eating healthily!?

I understand why you would want to cure cancer from a freak radioactive power-plant accident or something. But come one, let's face it, that's not why people are getting lung cancer. *cough* cigarettes *cough*