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Old 07-19-2012, 11:19 AM
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Default I've never cared about religion and shit in years.

But I was watching this youtube video where Jeffery Dahmer talked about his conversion to Christianity when he was in prison. One of the top rated comments on the video was:

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Man would condenm him reguardless of this but, our God is SOOO loving, He pardens ALL sin when we choose to accept His Son as our Saviour.
Ugh. UGH. God is so loving he'd forgive a fucking serial killer, but he wouldn't forgive any other nonbeliever? And trust me, I always knew Christians thought this way, but holy fuck. Just to see one state it like that hit a nerve. Fucking stupid retarded piece of shit. God isn't loving, you fucking dipshit. He's a fucking cunt for not letting me into Heaven just because I don't believe in him. FUCK YOU. I WANT IN, FAGGOT. FUCK YOU!
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: I've never cared about religion and shit in years.

You should come to England, people use their brains a little bit more. (That doesn't mean they are more intelligent or immune to retarded mistakes though)
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:09 PM
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God will forgive a serial killer and he'll forgive a non-believer too if you repent.
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Default Re: I've never cared about religion and shit in years.

Imagine a supreme court judge saying to a murderer, "If you say sorry and accept me as the one true judge of this district, I will let you and your accomplices go." The murderer apologises and the trial ends.

A few days later the judge tortures and kills his own son in public.


Many, many, many years before all that happened, the judge asked some intern lawyer to sacrifice his son on a mountain for no apparent reason.





What an awesome, loving, moral guy...
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Old 07-19-2012, 05:53 PM
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He's a fucking cunt for not letting me into Heaven just because I don't believe in him. FUCK YOU. I WANT IN, FAGGOT. FUCK YOU!
The way to get into Heaven is to humble yourself before God. It is precisely your line of thinking--I can do it myself, I'm better, me, me, me--that will keep you out. What the soul desires cannot be known by human knowledge but only through the wisdom of God.

You cannot help yourself. Eventually you get sick, you get old, and you will die. Perhaps this is what Dahmer realized, and he is more spiritually rich for it.
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Old 07-19-2012, 06:40 PM
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Imagine a supreme court judge saying to a murderer, "If you say sorry and accept me as the one true judge of this district, I will let you and your accomplices go." The murderer apologises and the trial ends.

A few days later the judge tortures and kills his own son in public.


Many, many, many years before all that happened, the judge asked some intern lawyer to sacrifice his son on a mountain for no apparent reason.





What an awesome, loving, moral guy...
And people still cry that he does it because he loves us.
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: I've never cared about religion and shit in years.

Repentance isn't just about asking for forgiveness and receiving it.

It's about turning away from the sin itself. It's about committing to leaving behind sinful behavior and walking a path toward truth, love, and God. That doesn't mean you won't stumble along the way. Surely, that will happen as we are only human after all, but true repentance means that you will learn how to find your way back when you fall astray because you no longer wish to remain in sin.

Even if you don't believe in God, surely you can see the benefit of recognizing your faults and flaws and seeking to improve the quality of your behavior. Regardless of your beliefs, the Bible has great lessons to teach if you can out aside your bias and try to understand those lessons in proper context.

There is an old testament and a new testament. Obviously, the lessons in the new testament are different from those of the old and override them as well.

If you can't read it without bias, then you will gain nothing from it. It's like letting your hate for the cookie monster prevent you from enjoying the cookie. That's probably a bad analogy, but whatever. We're all free to choose what we do and do not want to believe. No need to get angry or hateful when others don't share your beliefs. Both sides of the religious argument seem to miss this point.
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You won't get into heaven because you don't believe, you're not getting into heaven because you read youtube comments.
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Repentance isn't just about asking for forgiveness and receiving it.

It's about turning away from the sin itself. It's about committing to leaving behind sinful behavior and walking a path toward truth, love, and God. That doesn't mean you won't stumble along the way. Surely, that will happen as we are only human after all, but true repentance means that you will learn how to find your way back when you fall astray because you no longer wish to remain in sin.

Even if you don't believe in God, surely you can see the benefit of recognizing your faults and flaws and seeking to improve the quality of your behavior. Regardless of your beliefs, the Bible has great lessons to teach if you can out aside your bias and try to understand those lessons in proper context.

There is an old testament and a new testament. Obviously, the lessons in the new testament are different from those of the old and override them as well.

If you can't read it without bias, then you will gain nothing from it. It's like letting your hate for the cookie monster prevent you from enjoying the cookie. That's probably a bad analogy, but whatever. We're all free to choose what we do and do not want to believe. No need to get angry or hateful when others don't share your beliefs. Both sides of the religious argument seem to miss this point.
very well said HTT
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