Not a weed guy

[helliotion]

Whenever I smoke, I get very quiet/anti-social, panic attacks when I'm with people, At some points I feel as if everything that is me might fall into nothingness and it scares me, this feeling has now begun to occur when I'm sober looking at all the openness of space.

I probably have social anxiety disorder, Anyone know how to cure that without going to therapists and taking benzos? Shit....Probably just talking to people right....Too lazy and fearful of people to even want to.

[i poop in your cereal]

Originally Posted by Mai'q the liar

You can't let anxiety get to you. Just act and think like "Well if I'm fucked i may as well enjoy myself" and then you forget all about the anxiety.

The thing is that you don't think "you're fucked". I know full well I'm just high. What scares me is the unpleasantness of a bad trip, not any of the nonexistent consequences of using weed. Fear of fear itself.

[Zanick]

Originally Posted by helliotion

Whenever I smoke, I get very quiet/anti-social, panic attacks when I'm with people, At some points I feel as if everything that is me might fall into nothingness and it scares me, this feeling has now begun to occur when I'm sober looking at all the openness of space.

I probably have social anxiety disorder, Anyone know how to cure that without going to therapists and taking benzos? Shit....Probably just talking to people right....Too lazy and fearful of people to even want to.

Practice is essential. Therapists can help you work past the emotional difficulties that result in your anxiety.

Make sure you're getting enough protein, if I don't have enough my fear of human interaction is paralyzing. Also make sure you're getting enough sleep. Then stimulant drugs, alcohol in small doses, benzos, etc. if you're chemically inclined.

If you're into meditation/yoga, focus on the root and throat chakras. This and good dieting have done more for me than anything else.

[Zombie Food]

Originally Posted by i poop in your cereal

The thing is that you don't think "you're fucked". I know full well I'm just high. What scares me is the unpleasantness of a bad trip, not any of the nonexistent consequences of using weed. Fear of fear itself.

So you worry over literally nothing?

When I had weed induced anxiety I could always attribute it to something and direct it at something. Worrying about getting caught was usually my biggest. I used to hear voices when I got really high. Eventually I learned to almost FORCE myself to enjoy it. Because fuck anxiety. Idk, for me its very easy to change my own mind/emotions when i'm high.

[helliotion]

Originally Posted by zanick

Practice is essential. Therapists can help you work past the emotional difficulties that result in your anxiety.

Make sure you're getting enough protein, if I don't have enough my fear of human interaction is paralyzing. Also make sure you're getting enough sleep. Then stimulant drugs, alcohol in small doses, benzos, etc. if you're chemically inclined.

If you're into meditation/yoga, focus on the root and throat chakras. This and good dieting have done more for me than anything else.

It's funny, I was thinking earlier today that alcohol would have a realistic medicinal effect on my anxiety at low doses. The Marijuana definitely isn't helping me, it may be inhibiting me. I'm trying to quit but I've become habitually addicted to it so easier said then done. Still going to try to quit smoking pot and take up a little bit of drinking...preferably red wine. I think I'll be fine once I'm off pot for a good 15 days. It's getting to that 15 day mark that's a bitch.

[SoulButter]

Originally Posted by helliotion

It's funny, I was thinking earlier today that alcohol would have a realistic medicinal effect on my anxiety at low doses. The Marijuana definitely isn't helping me, it may be inhibiting me. I'm trying to quit but I've become habitually addicted to it so easier said then done. Still going to try to quit smoking pot and take up a little bit of drinking...preferably red wine. I think I'll be fine once I'm off pot for a good 15 days. It's getting to that 15 day mark that's a bitch.

Im exactly the same as this, minus trying to stop smoking. Its basically taking benzos without all the sleepiness.

[General Butt.Naked]

Pretty much teh same story, except that I didnt have your crazy paranoid delusions.

Long story short, I smoked pretty much every day from 7th grade to graduation of high school. I smoked around an 8th a day, drank 2 Mickeys 40's every day at lunch, along with a whiskey bong hit, and experimented frequently with 2c's , mushrooms, pills, hallucinogenics, cough syrup, crystal meth, cocaine, etc. When I took a 2 month break after graduation, I didnt even mind. 2 weeks after that, I went to a party. Someone had some weed, so I split an optimo and rolled a fairly normal sized blunt- a gram or less. Within minutes, I started feeling strangely- like I never had before. The kitchen was crowded, which id normally be happy with- but now I couldnt breathe.my chest felt like your stomach feels when you says you have "butterflies". I started sweating. I walked outside to cool off, and the sidewalk seemed to be rocking from side to side underneath me like a tugboat. My heart was beating like 3 times a second. For a while, I thought it was laced- but everyone else said they thought it wasz fine.

From that point on, ive rarely been able to smoke weed without having the same thing happen. Its a strange phenomenon, but ive talked to other people and heard the same thing from people who had similar experience- people who smoked weed for many years and quite heavily, and then after a short period of abstinence, had panic attacks.

When I couldnt smoke weed, and I started having anxiety issues, I started looking for something to calm down with. I started smoking heroin, and never really stopped. Ive been missing the benefits of weed though- creativity and thought processes, the protective effects that it may have on parts of the body...so ive been trying to smoke miniscule amounts every day, sort of like a supplement. No matter how hard I try though, I just cant seem to desire the feeling of being STONED anymore. Opiates are a slow and sluggish nod, but you're still completely yourself. I dont like that silly, stupid, out of control feeling.

[popo!]

The first time I had a true panic attack was a few months after my initial detox, and first experience of paranoia. I was sitting at home, and had this strange bud. It was flat almost, super sticky, and very dark green. I smoked two bowls as I wanted to get blazed and just break through the paranoia and get an enjoyable high. I went into the computer room to watch Fear and Loathing (a favorite practice at that time in my life). After the movie began my focus worked it's way back from the screen slowly until the entire room was in focus. I started to realize how odd everything looked at night, being lit by the computer screen.I was laying on my back, looking all around. My feet looked green. I then lost all feeling in my legs. I couldn't tell if they were moving or not but i kept trying to move them. My heart rate increase rapidly, to the point where I was convinced something was very wrong. It seemed like it had been 40 minutes since I began watching. I remember making my way to the computer. The movie had only been on for 5 minutes. I remember typing in "symptoms of a heart attack". It literally took me 5 minutes to type that in. I went in the bathroom and looked in the mirror, I splashed water on my face, nothing decreased the heart rate, and I continued to freak out. I literally had to talk to my grandmother to calm down.

The next day i had a date with a strange girl, and her family came along. My friend came over before and I told him about the experience. He said he thought it could be laced. We decided to smoke again, this time just a minute amount. The high came on just as I left with the girl and her parents. I did not talk the entire trip. Instead I looked out the window of the car at the bright blue fall sky and at the oceans of corn, wondering how the hell the Earth doesn't just fall into the sky.

[popo!]

Originally Posted by helliotion

It's funny, I was thinking earlier today that alcohol would have a realistic medicinal effect on my anxiety at low doses. The Marijuana definitely isn't helping me, it may be inhibiting me. I'm trying to quit but I've become habitually addicted to it so easier said then done. Still going to try to quit smoking pot and take up a little bit of drinking...preferably red wine. I think I'll be fine once I'm off pot for a good 15 days. It's getting to that 15 day mark that's a bitch.

Alcohol and muscle relaxers help me, though the latter is never available anymore. In vino veritas.

[popo!]

The best way I can describe how everything looks when i get too high is the first couple seconds of this music video. If I am in a big group it looks like that to me when I am bugging out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZeGcfsl8JA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZeGcfsl8JA
Video: click to display

[bortmackie]

I have experienced the very same problem numerous times, but not EVERY time. I find it highly dependent on set and setting, like you're doing any sort of psychedelic or what not. Don't get super blazed if you have to go out in public or do something nervewracking, be around your parents, etc. I still get that feeling of nervous excitement whenever i'm smoking, but if i'm in the right situation i can keep it under control enough to actually have fun with it, rather than freaking out and getting super paranoid.

I definitely believe that for some people there comes a point where they have a bad experience that puts them off smoking weed, but each subsequent time does NOT have to be like that. If you take it easy and only do it around trusted friends/alone, then you can still have fun smoking weed, at least in my experience.

[FON]

Meh, I get that when I have no tolerance and smoke too much. Easily fixed. Learn your limits or get your tolerance back up...Also, if I'm feeling paranoid these days I can just take charge of my thoughts and feel good again.

[Oct]

On the contrary i found weed has had many good effects when not abused everyday.
I found drinking alcohol did help with anxiety issues, not stating the obvious but it does give you confidence, the hardcore drinking and chonging took me a good while to get use to though.


Believe it or not a lot of girls i smoked it with told me it made them horny after the 1st joint, i couldn't believe this at first as i was only told this years later. I was like, "so all this time i've been smoking it with you, you been sitting there in need of a fuck? Goddamnit girl!!! If i waked and baked i would get an instant hard on and my arse hole would feel loose also, must be all the muscles in my body relaxing or some shit. Ahhh the good days.

[helliotion]

At then end of the day, there are medicinal values at lower doses and recreational values at higher doses.

[Tokerface]

I'm exactly the same, I made this account when I was like, 14, when I was like "omgz weed is so kewl". If only I knew it would unhinge my already vulnerable mind. I now have depersonalization disorder because of it.

Fuck.

[Tokerface]

I'm trying to point out that weed isn't harmless. You hear idiotic potheads preaching about how its "all natural", how its "risk free" and how it's Gods gift to humanity. "Don't do drugs, smoke weed".

Just like benzos, opiates, stimulants, whatever, its a fucking drug. It may only be mildly hallucinogenic but it can seriously damage you. I have a full blown dissociative disorder after a single use. Admittedly, there definitely was a genetic predisposition there (I'd experienced transient episodes of depersonalization before it), but its really fucked me up. It not only brings underlying mental problems to the surface, but it can also harm those who are in a state of perfect mental health.

My cousins friend starting smoking bongs heavily when he was 15. When he was 20, he went to the dentist for a checkup, then later pulled his tooth out with pliers because he thought they'd installed a tracking chip in there. Others I know can't remember shit, are extremely anxious and anti social, when before they were perfectly normal dudes.

Weed won't kill you, but that doesn't mean its harmless.

[Tokerface]

Holy fuck I need to change my name.

[delysid]

Originally Posted by Tokerface

I'm trying to point out that weed isn't harmless. You hear idiotic potheads preaching about how its "all natural", how its "risk free" and how it's Gods gift to humanity. "Don't do drugs, smoke weed".

Just like benzos, opiates, stimulants, whatever, its a fucking drug. It may only be mildly hallucinogenic but it can seriously damage you. I have a full blown dissociative disorder after a single use. Admittedly, there definitely was a genetic predisposition there (I'd experienced transient episodes of depersonalization before it), but its really fucked me up. It not only brings underlying mental problems to the surface, but it can also harm those who are in a state of perfect mental health.

My cousins friend starting smoking bongs heavily when he was 15. When he was 20, he went to the dentist for a checkup, then later pulled his tooth out with pliers because he thought they'd installed a tracking chip in there. Others I know can't remember shit, are extremely anxious and anti social, when before they were perfectly normal dudes.

Weed won't kill you, but that doesn't mean its harmless.

I have to agree with you on that one.

[Tokerface]

^ I think that for those in good mental health, moderation is the key.

[delysid]

Originally Posted by Tokerface

^ I think that for those in good mental health, moderation is the key.

What about moderation in moderation?

[popo!]

Originally Posted by Octovia

Believe it or not a lot of girls i smoked it with told me it made them horny after the 1st joint, i couldn't believe this at first as i was only told this years later. I was like, "so all this time i've been smoking it with you, you been sitting there in need of a fuck? Goddamnit girl!!! If i waked and baked i would get an instant hard on and my arse hole would feel loose also, must be all the muscles in my body relaxing or some shit. Ahhh the good days.

Agreed, my girl takes my pants off for a change when shes stoned.

[Oct]

I've met people who chong loads with a lot of get up and go but are still anti social in some way or another. I know people that chong who are the humblest, friendly nice types that i can see that it hasn't affected them but like i said this does not mean anything. Whenever i go Amsterdam i always encounter some fucking faggot that preaches how good it is and that it doesn't do anything when i can clearly see symptoms already, they're just so up their own arse holes they don't realize what a boderline socio they are.

[popo!]

^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCMzjJjuxQI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCMzjJjuxQI
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All those pro weed organizations have their own agendas, they lie about smoking marijuana just like tobacco companies covered up unsatisfactory affects with their sugar coated fairy tales.

[NamelessNom4d]

Sometimes I am a weed guy and sometimes I am not, and I can totally relate to the paranoia feeling. It helps to be around trusted friends, I don't really like to smoke around people I don't know these days, mostly because when I get really high I get really obviously high. My eyes get super red and squinty, I say stupid shit, and can't enunciate my words correctly. I become very introverted and quiet, often overanalyzing everything. If I force myself to be social though, and everyone else is also high as shit, I'm usually good. Depends on who I am around really.

I've had a few legit panic attacks before, and they aren't fun in the slightest. Only ever happened when around sketchy people. I've also "whited out" a couple times, I think it happens when my blood sugar is too low and I stand up too quickly. Every time it's happened I've been with good friends, thank God, but it's very uncomfortable when it does. All the blood drains out of my face and I become sheet white, with tunnel vision, and I feel like I am going to pass out.

Most recent time I whited out was when I did a candy flip in the morning with some good molly and 2 hits of LSD, walked around for the entire day and didn't eat much of anything. I remember being back in my friend's room, still tripping face, doing bong rips. We finished the last bowl and I stood up to go to the bathroom, but I had been sitting for quite some time, so the sudden shift of going from sitting to standing was fairly jarring. I stood up, and all the blood seemed to drain out of my head and into my feet, the world started going black but I was still tripping balls so I didn't know what the fuck was going on. It felt like my soul came somewhat detached from my body and I lost control of my body... I started to pass out but I couldn't because I was high as fuck and tripping, so apparently for about 5-10 seconds I stood there and had a mini-seizure or something. My friend said it was like I was doing this weird dance but then he managed to snap me out of it. I sat down, drank some water, ate some candy and I was good to go again. Probably one of the strangest things that can happen to you while tripping is a white out.

[komokazi]

You ever fap to any of Marsh's CP?

[dopeman420]

try adderall + weed. amazing combination.

[Vladibus]

There is no replacement for weed I have found. What are you going to do? Take pills? Get addicted. Snort powder? Stay up for days, crash and can't do anything. Drink? will feel like shit the next day.

You will just have to stay sober.

[White Jesus]

Originally Posted by Vladibus

There is no replacement for weed I have found. What are you going to do? Take pills? Get addicted. Snort powder? Stay up for days, crash and can't do anything. Drink? will feel like shit the next day.

You will just have to stay sober.

Get back to your bong, hippie

[Vladibus]

Originally Posted by White Jesus

Get back to your bong, hippie

I don't have a bong. But I don't mind a toke every couple hours. It's the ultimate medication.

[Haiti's Space Agency]

i'm definitely not a weed guy

[The Big LeBronowski]

Originally Posted by komokazi

You ever fap to any of Marsh's CP?

hahahahahaha that dudes a fucking weirdo

[rippa]

Me; hung out with stoners all through school. Never did drugs, didn't smoke up. Drank here and there. When I was 18, I wanted to do H. Settled for white. Never did hard, but so much soft went up my nose. Got into the business. White brought out my full anxiety after using heavy, daily after half a year or so. I started trying other things during all that too, of course, (Ketamine - BEST drug evaaar), but as soon as the group started getting meffs, well, I had always been obsessed with meffs. I became a tweaker for a while, sobered up to distribute independently after the group started distrusting me (I never stole drugs, believe it or not, I used less than what they gave me, I was still making money). Found the stress makes you as crazy as using does. At least, with the people I knew. Started using again eventually. Quit again, but started smoking weed.

Now, TL;DR; I started with hard drugs. That lovelyy miss Tina was my poison of choice.
When I actually quit for good (half a year - a year, I dunno), I started smoking weeeed. No tolerance, maybe 5 hits of weed in my life. Plus only friends I started to smoke with believed heavily in quality. And hot knives. Those were scary, schizophrenia-esque trips. Now, somehow there was a period of overlapping, I started using meffs casual, while being a stoner. They compliment each other in crazy ways. I'm getting off topic though.

Anyway, my tolerance grew, I learned to love it. I started out hating it. I don't know why I kept smoking it. But after a week, I was in love. Weed was scary to get used to. Like, gram of blow + half gram of K at same time, phoning people to get a ride to my spaceship... That intense, my first dozen times stoned. Like, as scary as the first time I shot up (20 pack of meff). Now a days, I smoke regularly, because it's the only thing that helps my anxiety, depression, and OCD. But, I had a week long detox (crazy bin), and of course, hit like, a half gram worth of weed on the knives, and that was when I finally calmed down. My anxiety gone again, at long last after being depressingly sober and scared all week.

I lay around, and do nothing, or just sleep, without grass. I'm only useful/productive with some weed. Diet makes a HUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference too. I'm medicated now too, not happy about it. I find I have to smoke more weed, to counteract the anxiety and suicidal thoughts that I get from my SSRI's. Gonna switch them. They won't give me benzos. At least I have Seroquil now. It helps slow down my thoughts, but not enough. My brain is overactive though.

I don't know why I posted all that. Probably not worth reading, and no one here knows me anyway, but it took long enough to type, that I'll be pissed if I don't post. Meh, fukkit. Oh, and I don't consume any alcohol, if anyone actually cares.

[STEROS]

maybe you're more of a weed grower?

$$$

[SoulButter]

Weed turns me into an observer, rather than a partaker. It makes me think much more deeply about things, and I love that. Not a good thing at all if being social is in your best interest. Great for solitude and creative work though!