Would you take immortality if offered? What variations of immortality would you like?

[Obbe]

Reality is immortal and eternal, and we are not separate from reality. There is no beginning or end. Everything will always change.

[JeffreyH]

If speculation is allowed, peak oil would never be a problem: prices will rise to appropriate levels way before it becomes a real problems, allowing the markets to adjust, making alternative fuels profitable or drilling in areas that were previously too expensive now profitable.

[dephdiddy]

Originally Posted by benny vader

so ?????

''scientists'' had been screaming peak oil back in the days when only 3% of our ocean have been explored. and now still ... we have yet to had explored more than 5%.

I have a friend who worked in oil and gas exp' and his job is to go on a ship and blow up some explosives and record their echos and do you know what he told me ?????

NEW FUCKING OIL WELLS ARE BEING DISCOVERED EVERYDAY !!!!!!

The amounts of new oil wells he'd found so far is astounding. He told me how bullshit is was in a bar sometime ago as the news blared on about impending price hike due to the sanded nigger countries limiting their outputs, he just couldnt understand it ....... how despite sending more than half-a-dozen of potential new oil well coordinated nothing has been done to follow up on his discoveries.

it just seems like there exists some conspiracy to keep the price of oil on nearly an all time high by vested parties.

Well if your wondering ... the fact is this : 95% of this planet remains an uncharted territories.

And assuming everybody is an immortal and all we need kis a place to sleep with no need for food ..... this planet of ours can sustain 100billion souls easily.

you don't know how a well works, but good job on still making a friend anyway.

[takedrugs_killpeople]

Originally Posted by benny vader

so ?????

''scientists'' had been screaming peak oil back in the days when only 3% of our ocean have been explored. and now still ... we have yet to had explored more than 5%.

I have a friend who worked in oil and gas exp' and his job is to go on a ship and blow up some explosives and record their echos and do you know what he told me ?????

NEW FUCKING OIL WELLS ARE BEING DISCOVERED EVERYDAY !!!!!!

The amounts of new oil wells he'd found so far is astounding. He told me how bullshit is was in a bar sometime ago as the news blared on about impending price hike due to the sanded nigger countries limiting their outputs, he just couldnt understand it ....... how despite sending more than half-a-dozen of potential new oil well coordinated nothing has been done to follow up on his discoveries.

it just seems like there exists some conspiracy to keep the price of oil on nearly an all time high by vested parties.

Well if your wondering ... the fact is this : 95% of this planet remains an uncharted territories.

And assuming everybody is an immortal and all we need kis a place to sleep with no need for food ..... this planet of ours can sustain 100billion souls easily.

You sound like youre one of those guys that's smoked themselves retarded on ice. You can't spell for shit, and tell me please, how would you not be immortal, just because everyone else has died? If you can't die, you are immortal. By definition. Plain and simple.

[Daily]

Originally Posted by takedrugs_killpeople

You sound like youre one of those guys that's smoked themselves retarded on ice. You can't spell for shit, and tell me please, how would you not be immortal, just because everyone else has died? If you can't die, you are immortal. By definition. Plain and simple.

The Methematician has a PhD in Philosophy, don't fuck with him! He's from China, so English is not his native tongue.

[Synopix]

I would choose eternal immortality.

[JeffreyH]

I would choose groundhog day immortality.

[Vizier]

I remembered this video:

Immortal Dog - YouTube

Immortal Dog - YouTube
Video: click to display

We'd need this shit for our pets if we're gonna be immortal.

[Malcolm Equis]

too much eve online eh?

[The Big LeBronowski]

Which ones appeal to you? How would you change any of them to be the 'perfect immortality' for you. biological so I can kill myself if I feel like it
If you were only offered biological immortality and eternal immortality. Which one would you take? biological
Would you only accept any of the above if other people were immortal? doesnt matter
Would you support planet wide immortality? Or maybe immortality which costs £30,000 a year. So if you want to live forever, you have to earn it. immortality would be more of a curse than a blessing
Would you only accept if you got addition traits like excellent memory (practically able to relive memories) - an ability to move anywhere instantly (limited in how often this happens)? Able to give overs immortality as well?
never forget stuff

[bleh]

I would choose eternal immortality and take pounds of drugs.

[JeffreyH]

I feel that with immortality, my life would become like Cowboy Bebop.

Then again, it's pretty similar to that as it is.

[Vizier]

Originally Posted by JeffreyH

I feel that with immortality, my life would become like Cowboy Bebop.

Then again, it's pretty similar to that as it is.

This would be pretty awesome for a while.

[benny vader]

Originally Posted by Daily

The Methematician has a PhD in Philosophy, don't fuck with him! He's from China, so English is not his native tongue.

no, i'm nott. i'm flattered you'd think that but somehow i think its racist to say that all chinks looked alike.

Originally Posted by takedrugs_killpeople

You sound like youre one of those guys that's smoked themselves retarded on ice. You can't spell for shit, and tell me please, how would you not be immortal, just because everyone else has died? If you can't die, you are immortal. By definition. Plain and simple.

[1] becos, speilings and gramars, and the correct ways to do them are for phaggotts. faggots liek you.

and

[2] just becos your ther only one who thinks your a genius our of all the people in this wjole gott damn universe doesnt make you one.

being an immortal, on this empty universe alone and by urself wont make you an immortal becos there wont be anybody to contrast your immortality with mortality, you'd just be, ..... you, a faggot that exists and being there, for an eternity.

the sameway we dont consider rocks and universe immortals.

[STEROS]

fuck no.

death awaits me and i'm taking that route.

[Lanny]

Originally Posted by JeffreyH

I feel that with immortality, my life would become like Cowboy Bebop.

Then again, it's pretty similar to that as it is.

Wasn't there an episode about immortality? Some kid who was 200 years old or something like that?

[Akagi]

Originally Posted by JeffreyH

Doesn't matter. I think you are not quite realizing the implications of having to be around FOREVER. Suicide ALWAYS being an option is a wonderful thing. Having that taken away? I don't know, don't you think you would get absolutely sick of it after a hundred trillion years, knowing that you are still 0% through your life, and you will have to see another trillion of those hundred trillion years? Does that not scare you?

Two words: Mind wipes.

Everything old is new again.

[Akagi]

Originally Posted by JeffreyH

If speculation is allowed, peak oil would never be a problem: prices will rise to appropriate levels way before it becomes a real problems, allowing the markets to adjust, making alternative fuels profitable or drilling in areas that were previously too expensive now profitable.

Yeah, unfortunately in reality that hasn't happened.

What we see in practice is the law of receding horizons. Things that are supposed to be cheaper than petroleum distillates at X price end up not being able to compete with them at that price because the cost of petroleum fuels dictates the price of business, up to and including the cost of producing these so-called alternative fuels.

Alternative fuels are actually dependent on the underlying hydrocarbon energy foundation in order to operate.

[JeffreyH]

Originally Posted by Lanny

Wasn't there an episode about immortality? Some kid who was 200 years old or something like that?

The whole thing could be about immortality. Everybody over there is still held by their past. Being immortal would be like being stuck between heaven and hell.

[JeffreyH]

Originally Posted by Akagi

Two words: Mind wipes.

Everything old is new again.

But read my post above about what death is. Wouldn't wiping your mind be nearly *exactly* what death de-facto is?

[JeffreyH]

Originally Posted by Akagi

Yeah, unfortunately in reality that hasn't happened.

What we see in practice is the law of receding horizons. Things that are supposed to be cheaper than petroleum distillates at X price end up not being able to compete with them at that price because the cost of petroleum fuels dictates the price of business, up to and including the cost of producing these so-called alternative fuels.

Alternative fuels are actually dependent on the underlying hydrocarbon energy foundation in order to operate.

It will happen, just like it happened in the past. All that you have shown is that it's not the time yet, our resources are better spent elsewhere at the moment.

I know analogies are not great, but: the cost of transportation dictates the cost of business, hence horse carriages are never going to get replaced by automobiles.

[Rolf]

Rolfimvs would choose immortal of the grim and frostbitten variety, but true question to be asked by he simply be: who be offering immortality?

Originally Posted by Qhost

an ability to move anywhere instantly (limited in how often this happens)? Able to give overs immortality as well?

Classical immortality makes this additional trait useless, as one can simply destroy oneself for quick and easy instant-travel body regeneration...

Originally Posted by Lanny

I would support planet wide immortality.

Lanny...

Originally Posted by Lanny

I would support pay-for immorality

... be personification of the stupid.

Originally Posted by takedrugs_killpeople

You sound like youre one of those guys that's smoked themselves retarded on ice.

Mere mortals should bow to be in the presence of the Matician of Metheheim.

Originally Posted by Obbe

Reality is immortal and eternal

Prove it, it is demanded by Rolf.

Originally Posted by Obbe

There is no beginning or end.

Prove it, it is demanded by Rolf.

Originally Posted by Obbe

Everything will always change.

Only if reelected, be Obama.

[Irukanji]

People who even think for a second it is possible to be immortal are simply too terrified of death to even consider death an option. Protip: death is the only option.

So basically, no. I don't want immortality, and neither do you.

[Captain Falcon]

Originally Posted by Rolf

Rolfimvs would choose immortal of the grim and frostbitten variety, but true question to be asked by he simply be: who be offering immortality?



Classical immortality makes this additional trait useless, as one can simply destroy oneself for quick and easy instant-travel body regeneration...



Lanny...



... be personification of the stupid.



Mere mortals should bow to be in the presence of the Matician of Metheheim.



Prove it, it is demanded by Rolf.



Prove it, it is demanded by Rolf.



Only if reelected, be Obama.

Dang, nigga, your gimmick's dead now, ain't it?

[Lanny]

Originally Posted by Rolf

Lanny...



... be personification of the stupid.

Really though, immortality in any form is desirable, with strict regulation we could make both those scenarios extremely advantageous.

[JeffreyH]

Originally Posted by Irukanji

People who even think for a second it is possible to be immortal are simply too terrified of death to even consider death an option. Protip: death is the only option.

So basically, no. I don't want immortality, and neither do you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_nutricula

[JeffreyH]

Originally Posted by Lanny

Really though, immortality in any form is desirable, with strict regulation we could make both those scenarios extremely advantageous.

Regulation? By other people?

You seriously believe that would work out?

[Obbe]

Originally Posted by Rolf

Prove it

No, instead I will tell you that something does not come from nothing and something does not become nothing, so how can there be a beginning or an end?

[Captain Falcon]

Originally Posted by JeffreyH

Regulation? By other people?

You seriously believe that would work out?

Why not? Also, nobody is going to live forever with the immortality science is trying to work towards. Longer? Yes. Indefinitely? Also yes. Forever? No. You'll probably get shot about a hundred years in.

[Lanny]

Originally Posted by JeffreyH

Regulation? By other people?

You seriously believe that would work out?

Yes.

[Struwwelpeter]

Nope. I love being a mortal, and the sooner I die, the better.

[Irukanji]

Originally Posted by JeffreyH

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_nutricula

A simple, brainless, sea-dwelling creature. It consists of a few hundred thousand cells, if that. Since this thread is about immortality in humans, my previous comment still stands.

[Akagi]

Originally Posted by JeffreyH

But read my post above about what death is. Wouldn't wiping your mind be nearly *exactly* what death de-facto is?

With the exception that you don't get to pass on your genes & continue experiencing life, yeah.

[Akagi]

Originally Posted by JeffreyH

It will happen, just like it happened in the past. All that you have shown is that it's not the time yet, our resources are better spent elsewhere at the moment.

I know analogies are not great, but: the cost of transportation dictates the cost of business, hence horse carriages are never going to get replaced by automobiles.

Providing basic necessities to people is a matter of business and one that can be easily disrupted by economic dislocations, wars, and domestic/international competition for said resources - all of which will become a reality in a post-hydrocarbon world where we haven't had what the Hirsch report (the official inquiry into peak oil) stated would require 20 years of advance aggresive mitigation efforts in advance of the actual peak to prevent "chaotic" supply disruption scenarios.

[JeffreyH]

Originally Posted by Akagi

Providing basic necessities to people is a matter of business and one that can be easily disrupted by economic dislocations, wars, and domestic/international competition for said resources - all of which will become a reality in a post-hydrocarbon world where we haven't had what the Hirsch report (the official inquiry into peak oil) stated would require 20 years of advance aggresive mitigation efforts in advance of the actual peak to prevent "chaotic" supply disruption scenarios.

The question is, if the report is convincing enough for the government to believe it is worth investing now because the technology will be vital in 20 years, why wouldn't the private sector think that? Whoever gets there first once the cost of oil gets above a certain threshold (and it would do so smoothly, provided speculation is not stopped) is going to make an absolute fortune. I imagine oil corporations in particular would be interested in such research.

And if the private sector does not invest? Maybe it has reasons to believe that the report may not be representing the most plausible scenario of the future.

[benny vader]

Originally Posted by Lanny

Yes.

Thus had The Female Condition instilled in her mind.