Xanax is more addictive than heroin!

[mexico]

it all depends on how you classify addiction. For me, it took several months to become addicted to opioids, and almost a year of trying and failing to quit. The mental compulsion to use opioids, for me, is unrivaled. The physical symptoms of benzo withdrawal is much worse though. I had severe tremors that persisted for nearly a month, whereas my heroin symptoms only lasted a week or so. All in all I'd say they are almost equally addictive, just with different attributes

[i poop in your cereal]

Originally Posted by 1337

You're right on caffeine, but I wasn't trying to say that it was more addictive simply because its (ab)use is so prevalent, that's quite a leap to make. Nicotine, however, is commonly considered to be more addictive than heroin (I can a get source if you want).

That's bullshit. The only reason people can't stop smoking it is because it's a pleasurable thing to do and has no immediate negative consequences. It's legal and therefore people don't have any real incentives to quit unless they're very concerned with their long term health, which most people really aren't. If a nicotine habit was so expensive that to afford it you'd have to pawn everything you own, steal from friends and familiy and sacrifice your hopes and dreams to get your hands on it, do you still think people couldn't stop using it?

[mexico]

Originally Posted by i poop in your cereal

That's bullshit. The only reason people can't stop smoking it is because it's a pleasurable thing to do and has no immediate negative consequences. It's legal and therefore people don't have any real incentives to quit unless they're very concerned with their long term health, which most people really aren't. If a nicotine habit was so expensive that to afford it you'd have to pawn everything you own, steal from friends and familiy and sacrifice your hopes and dreams to get your hands on it, do you still think people couldn't stop using it?

Again, it all depends on how you quantify addiction. Assuming all you said was true, and nicotine is so hard to quit mainly for societal reasons, does that somehow make it less addictive? Because the fact of the matter is if society plays such a large role in addiction then it can't be discounted. I think that the whole addiction argument is pointless. Heroin will make you sell your ass, cigarettes won't. End of argument

[Cytosine]

Originally Posted by i poop in your cereal

If a nicotine habit was so expensive that to afford it you'd have to pawn everything you own, steal from friends and familiy and sacrifice your hopes and dreams to get your hands on it, do you still think people couldn't stop using it?

Nicotine is expensive. I know lots of shitbags who will forgo food in order to buy cigarettes, who steal to buy them, and who sacrifice a lot of shit just for their nicotine fix.

It's no heroin, but a lot of the behaviors are similar.

[1337]

[B2 Stealth Bomber]

The funny thing about benzos is if you take them as prescribed over a long duration you will no doubt be fucked. But if you however binge them when your script comes around then I've found very little adverse effects except for mild rebound anxiety. Going for over 2 years strong with my method, no withdrawal. Once a month I get completely fucked amnesia style for a number of days in a row. Take a few and before you know it you've taken 20, don't take as prescribed. Looking forward to next friday, maybe I should just sell em making solid gains under the barbell.

[Doki66]

Originally Posted by Proots

You got off easy - and for that, I'm thankful. I wouldn't want anyone to suffer from severe benzo detoxing. It was probably the most painful experience (physically and psychologically) in my whole life.

I'm talking extreme brain zaps that made my eyes water and throb. Seizures that literally had me spraying saliva everywhere, flopping on the ground like a fish and all out shitting and pissing my pants.

Horrible.

Not trying to sound preachy, but I agree with what Ph0x said. You may not see it this way, but your room mate ended up doing you a huge favor, in the long run. I'm glad you're okay now.

Sounds like how I feel when I don't take seroquel for 1 day be glad your not hooked on that.

[Proots]

Originally Posted by Doki66

Sounds like how I feel when I don't take seroquel for 1 day be glad your not hooked on that.

Ugh. That's just as bad. Please tell me you were prescribed that for a serious mental illness and not just something ridiculous like "insomnia".

It stuns me that their are actually doctors out there who prescribe that shit for people who have sleep problems. Ridiculous.