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08-03-2012, 04:46 AM
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Re: Free Diving Spear Fishing
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THe reel looks great on there. so do the fish.
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Thanks, the reel works pretty good but I guess I need to get used to a new reloading procedure considering my new setup.
However, I don't think I'll be adding a front grip again, for some reason my gun seems pretty well balanced, and after taking up a few positions on rocks just outside of the surf I found out the reel handle supplies ample stability when ambushing.
The flounder was an interesting kill, the plaice I shot was just a straight forward thing and the spear connected as it should with a damn near perfect head shot, but as this is the largest flounder I've gotten I expected for a second or two that I'd get some sort of buck fever but nothing happened, it was just aim, shoot, dive, and retrieve.
Hadn't expected that.
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Not having a Torch really does put a damper on things. The one I want is ~600 but its like a 60w-100w bulb under water. WOW!
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Yeah, I think I might need to invest in a dive torch too...
I've been looking at the Magicshine MJ-810E LED, but I don't know...
What are you going after, got a brand and model in your sights?
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I still didnt get my FIN in the mail yet so I might just go natural this weekend .
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Good luck on the dives without fins, you come off as someone who knows his shit and prefers to go deep, but have you ever thought about shallow water aguatto/aspetto hunting?
I mean, while you wait for your fin...
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Got to pick up another snorkel. This time I'll keep 2. 1 as my main and the second for the backup.
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Probably not a bad idea, I should probably follow suit and get back up parts for my gun as I'd really hate to be in a perfect spot with a useless gun, which seems to be the most likely "oh-fuckles-and-shittles" scenario I could come across.
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08-03-2012, 09:10 AM
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Re: Free Diving Spear Fishing
Heres the Monster I want But theres different versions.
500 - $299 - 500 lumens <- ~40 watt bulb
800 - $499 - 800 lumens <- ~60 watt bulb
1200 - $699 - 1220 lumens <- ~100 watt bulb <- thats the one I want. Price is not great but the light output and warranty are what I was looking at. Being its LIGHT and wrist mounted is a plus also.
My gear setup would be - Light on my Left hand - Knife and gun on/in my right hand.
 
http://www.uwimaging.com/sola1200d.html
They are all LED and rechargeable. Adjustable power output with Spotlight and Flood feature. Comes with wrist mount and other ones available. like the pistol, camera, helmet mounts etc. Great warranty. Theres even a distress feature built in.
As for the Shallow water aguatto/aspetto hunting - YES. I'll be trying a few different things this weekend.
ALso having spare parts for any piece of equipment that could fail is a must. I have a few extra bands and wishbones (separate because as soon as you mate them they start to deteriorate)
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08-03-2012, 03:22 PM
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Re: Free Diving Spear Fishing
^^Yup, I've had a look at the SOLA 1200 as well - can't find any of the smaller models over here though, but as the 1200 costs what equals around 860,- USD where I live, I think I'd rather get a cheaper torch and make my own mount for it.
For ~780,- USD I could get a 3300 lumen WiseLED.
But granted, the SOLA does seem pretty nice and quite handy, a larger torch would probably have to be mounted on the lower arm and not the hand, seriously limiting maneuverability of the beam.
Oh, and in regards to the first pic in your post, I'm thinking about getting a new brainer with a better grip, right now this is what my Stingray looks like:

Not the best grip I'm sure we can agree, but better than the original bare metal...
I really like the blade profile on the ST you posted, and the grip looks decent too but I'd prefer to have a double edged with no serrations what so ever, just a simple stiletto with two smooth edges, like the Pelagic Dirk from Imersion:

You wouldn't happen to know of a knife that fits those criteria, but doesn't cost an arm and a leg like the one from Imersion?
Hmm, come to think of it, what I'm looking for is probably some sort of boot knife...
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08-03-2012, 10:09 PM
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I dont like serrations either. But heres where they really come into play. Picture this, You and a buddy are on the bottom going after a fish and theres a light current. In the minute or two you are on the bottom, the current/ tide brings some 30-60# test line drifting in from a fisherman cutting it off a few days earlier. As it drifts, it gets caught on the bottom and as you surface, you become ensnared in it. A slight sense of panic sets in. Not to worry you think, I have my knife! You pull out your smooth blade and start to cut away at the imposing obstacle. Its doing its job, but not as efficient as you'd hoped it would be when you initially got it.
When our straight edges dull, however slightly, the serrations are still sharp.
Heres where the serration's surpass a straight edge.
1. serrations were meant to 'grab' things that fit into the groves
2. they provide a protected 'sharp' surface
3. multiple serations translate to 1 additional spot per line strand to get caught up in and actually get cut.
Do a test at the house. get some MONO or BRAID line and wrap it 15-20 times randomly between 2 objects. ( I use my legs in practice in a sitting position) Take a smooth blade and cut away from yourself. Easy?Right? Now try a serrated edge in the exact same manner. grab a length of rope and try the same thing with both knives.
In an emergency situation, it is almost a necessity.
I have been looking at a designated 'brainer' an "IKI"

as well as a keeping my additional knives on me. Generally I like to have 2 on me just in case I loose one for whatever reason.
Amazon and Ebay had them for ~100 less. But yes, there are options out there for a decent light.
The Cryot looks nice too.
http://www.sporasubamerica.com/spora...ife-p-109.html
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08-04-2012, 02:01 PM
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Re: Free Diving Spear Fishing
I agree that you should at least have one serrated knife with you, for the same reasons you mention, but I don't need teeth on my brainer as it'll slide in easier without, and my main knife already has a serrated back + a line cutter on the opposite side.
As for the Cryot, it has the same problem as the Laser series from OMER, the Stiletto from Seatec, and the Riffe Silencer...
All of them are double edged, comes with a good handle, has a nice blade profile for stabbing, but they're serrated... 
The Pelagic Dirk looks like my best bet, but it's way too long to mount on the lower arm which is where I keep my brainer for easy access.
Sometimes, life can be so incredibly unfair, but on the upside I'll be going out and under in a few hours.
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08-04-2012, 11:01 PM
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Re: Free Diving Spear Fishing
Back home.
Ok, we went out four guys, one didn't shoot anything, between the rest of us we got 5 plaice, 1 brill, 1 garfish, and 1 mackerel. I spotted goldsinny-wrasse galore, a viviparous eelpout and a few flatfish I decided were too small, a greater weever I missed with a shot from the hip, and a big turbot while I had a plaice on the spear, after reloading I couldn't find it again, some of the other guys spotted a couple of sea trouts but not big enough to shoot.
Oh well, such is life, it was an awesome trip anyway...
All kills were grilled on the beach and eaten with baguettes, lemon juice and grilled tomatoes while the wind died out and the sun slowly set, life is great.
PS, the porpoises were back, I was told by a guy on land that I'd been around 15m from them at some point but I never saw them under water, I'd really wish they'd come by and say hi.
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08-04-2012, 11:58 PM
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Sounds like a decent day!.
When I raced wave runners, I fell of a few times and there were dolphins there within feet of me. I got distracted by them and before I knew it we were swimming together. 3 of them and me. Rubbed backs once or twice, it was a great feeling. In Bermuda as a kid had some similar experiences at the beaches when I was pole fishing. We fed them our catches and every time we went out after that, they would kind of lead us to a spot. Get a few fish for them, then the rest for us. Went that way for 4 times a week for 8 months. Never saw the same bunch again.
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08-05-2012, 12:15 AM
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Re: Free Diving Spear Fishing
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Sounds like a decent day!.
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Yeah, it most certainly was!
Sometimes, I don't understand why everyone isn't doing this.
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When I raced wave runners, I fell of a few times and there were dolphins there within feet of me. I got distracted by them and before I knew it we were swimming together. 3 of them and me. Rubbed backs once or twice, it was a great feeling. In Bermuda as a kid had some similar experiences at the beaches when I was pole fishing. We fed them our catches and every time we went out after that, they would kind of lead us to a spot. Get a few fish for them, then the rest for us. Went that way for 4 times a week for 8 months. Never saw the same bunch again.
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Oh man, that is friggin' brilliant, I like dolphins, too bad they don't visit my hunting grounds, otherwise I'd happily have shot a couple o' fish for 'em.
We might not speak their language, but I fucking love the part about one favor being worth another, at some point we apparently understand each other perfectly. 
BTW, have you ever watched the film "The Cove"?
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08-05-2012, 03:03 AM
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Yep great movie.
@everyone doing this - People are lazy. Its too much work for most. Besides, do you really want a modernized 'ew girl' down there with you.? EW! an octopus! Ah, did you just kill it? its so pretty,,, Yuck GUTS!!! Ew, I'm not touching that.
I turn heads everywhere I go. People will stare as I'm getting ready for the water. If I take too long, a crowd forms around me and I cant get to the water in a timely fashion.
People have come to realize everything can be bought at the market and are comfortable with that. Most would actually DIE if someone told them they HAD TO go hunt/gather their own food.
WE ARE THE REAL SURVIVORS>
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08-05-2012, 03:57 AM
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Re: Free Diving Spear Fishing
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@everyone doing this - People are lazy. Its too much work for most. Besides, do you really want a modernized 'ew girl' down there with you.? EW! an octopus! Ah, did you just kill it? its so pretty,,, Yuck GUTS!!! Ew, I'm not touching that.
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Guess you're right, something like this probably isn't for everyone...
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I turn heads everywhere I go. People will stare as I'm getting ready for the water. If I take too long, a crowd forms around me and I cant get to the water in a timely fashion.
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Well I haven't been delayed unacceptably so far, so whenever someone walks up and asks me what the hell is going on, I usually just "take one for the team" and explains why this is such an awesome hobby, I mean, perhaps I might inspire someone to join in.
It isn't something everyone will enjoy, or even become half way decent at, but on the other hand some people just need a nudge in the right direction, or maybe they haven't had the chance to get a few questions answered on a down to basics level, so if I'm already suited up in gear made for the task at hand, I might as well use the "authority" the "uniform" grants me, and try to get more people in, all in all I've never met a spearo I didn't like, so why not make more of them?
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People have come to realize everything can be bought at the market and are comfortable with that. Most would actually DIE if someone told them they HAD TO go hunt/gather their own food.
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I'm sad to agree, the vast majority of the sheeple that inhabits our western world are satisfied with mind-numbingly stupid reality shows that only helps to keep them sedated, or other equally retarded pastimes that has the exact same effect.
By far most of them wouldn't be able to keep themselves alive for more than a couple of days at best, if the power went out. Hurricane Katrina was a perfect example, just like the tsunami that hit Banda Aceh in '04...
People have become too accustomed to an all too easy way of life, and they're up shit creek without a paddle when something unexpected happens, and they have no skills to better their situation...
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WE ARE THE REAL SURVIVORS>
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So true, we'd probably really hate to get hit with any of the aforementioned natural disasters, but we wouldn't be knocked completely out of the equation like 99% of the rest of the population...
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08-05-2012, 05:43 AM
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There was a great Episode of Curiosity on Discovery Chanel. I, Caveman - Find the episode and watch it.
I yelled at the screen on a few scenes while watching the 2 hour show on TV. What a frustrating situation when people work against themselves and have no commonsense.
Basically it shows what the humanity as a whole would end up doing if droped back into the life of 0 technology and modern amenities.
Hunting becomes an emotional thing. Well, It is an emotional thing - wether its rejoicing or depression due to the lack of. All of it is magnified.
I agree, the Katrina incident was an unfortunate reality. I feel there were many contributing factors to the situation though. Demographics being one of the biggest issues. Inherently NOT WANTING TO DO ANYTHING POSITIVE and looking out for themselves, and even worse, NOT having the capacity or willingness to help themselves or the people around them.
I too have taken the high road and do a show and tell whenever asked about the skill/ sport. Found people like the photo op also. I'm pretty outgoing and friendly. But The beaches and areas I have access to are heavily traveled by people. My access to watercraft are limited.
I want a Zodiac or a jetski to get out to some spots, then that leaves me with having to also keeping track of the craft.
You are lucky in the sense of having diving partners easily accessible to you. I teld to go solo 90% of the time lately. A good portion of the people I know are smokers or just plainly unhealthy. I spent time and money trying to get a few into it that showed interest but they just had no willpower/ or passion for the sport.
I mentioned before - When I go out, I get enough for my family and fill the freezer. ALSO, I feed ~6 additional Familys/ housholds in my neighborhood and an additional ~2 outside of it. I'm not the sole provider, but I contribute a healthy portion of their diets each month. Some of them are simple to feed, they eat non game fish- snakehead, buffalo, carp, barbel, shad, etc. SO I fill up a couple 5gal buckets and they are happy for a couple weeks.
The others, range in different ethnicities and religions. SHELLFISH are a no no to the a few of them so no clams, oysters, muscles, crabs, etc. Bottom feeders. So i can bring them FISH but thats it.
Doing what I do isnt a necessity or anything like that. I saw it improved the quality of life for some people and do what I can to help.
I really do enjoy fishing/ hunting in all its forms. Its such a satisfying feeling to know that everyone is eating because of me.
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08-05-2012, 11:25 PM
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Re: Free Diving Spear Fishing
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There was a great Episode of Curiosity on Discovery Chanel. I, Caveman - Find the episode and watch it.
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I'll look it up.
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I yelled at the screen on a few scenes while watching the 2 hour show on TV. What a frustrating situation when people work against themselves and have no commonsense.
Basically it shows what the humanity as a whole would end up doing if droped back into the life of 0 technology and modern amenities.
Hunting becomes an emotional thing. Well, It is an emotional thing - wether its rejoicing or depression due to the lack of. All of it is magnified.
I agree, the Katrina incident was an unfortunate reality. I feel there were many contributing factors to the situation though. Demographics being one of the biggest issues. Inherently NOT WANTING TO DO ANYTHING POSITIVE and looking out for themselves, and even worse, NOT having the capacity or willingness to help themselves or the people around them.
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Well, I'll agree that it does seem a bit strange some people should start looting bigass flat screen TV's when what they should be concerned about is surviving, but apparently some people are just stupid and nature will take care of them in the long run when the shit hits the fan.
But, besides the obvious morons, most people these days simply lack the skills, I think. Life has simply been too easy for too long so what we have now is a couple of generations for whom surviving has never been a problem, one indication could be the "problems" discussed in the media, not long ago for example (under the last government), the big public discussion was whether or not muslim women should be allowed to wear whatever the fuck it is they wear...
Give me a friggin' break! When a society choose to spend its time and resources arguing over something as irrelevant as the dressing customs of a minority of an already pretty small minority, there's something wrong!
Sometimes I wish we'd get hit by a near planet-killer sized asteroid that'd bomb us all back to the stone age...
Ok, maybe a bit over the top and selfish, but I don't see any way to get this shithole back on the right track, the western world is slowly but surely sinking deeper and deeper into the muck of filth, decadence, pollution and ignorance we promote.
Sorry for going off topic, I just think it'd be nice if we could rediscover some of the old values, and get rid of some of the consumer use-and-discard mentality, that's all.
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I too have taken the high road and do a show and tell whenever asked about the skill/ sport. Found people like the photo op also. I'm pretty outgoing and friendly. But The beaches and areas I have access to are heavily traveled by people. My access to watercraft are limited.
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I see your problem, if you have to spend half an hour explaining the same shit over and over each time you go out, I guess it can get bit tiresome.
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I want a Zodiac or a jetski to get out to some spots, then that leaves me with having to also keeping track of the craft.
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Get an anchor. 
By the way, I'm contemplating getting or building a small marker buoy, so that I can mark the spot next time I come across something that should be shot and eaten, and I already got a fish on the spear. What do you think of that idea, worth trying?
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You are lucky in the sense of having diving partners easily accessible to you. I teld to go solo 90% of the time lately. A good portion of the people I know are smokers or just plainly unhealthy. I spent time and money trying to get a few into it that showed interest but they just had no willpower/ or passion for the sport.
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Hey, I am an unhealthy smoker! And I drink too much as well, but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy something as kickass as this, I mean, it's just getting out and doing it.
But yeah, I guess I am somewhat lucky that I've got a couple of people to dive with, over here it appears to me most inter-spearo contact is made online on the various spearfishing fora, if you're looking for people to go out and under with, you could try the US spear boards, I'm sure there's bound to be some. In my neck of the woods, it's common to see someone post a thread named for example "Next Saturday - jetty @ X location, who's up for it?", or "hey folks, I just got a boat, who needs a ride?" and then figure out transportation, when and where etc. in the thread, even though none of the guys showing up know each other from the start.
There's another advantage of living in good ol' DK though, and that's the fact that no matter where in the country you are, you won't be further away than max 50 km from the about 7.300 km coastline we have.
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I mentioned before - When I go out, I get enough for my family and fill the freezer. ALSO, I feed ~6 additional Familys/ housholds in my neighborhood and an additional ~2 outside of it. I'm not the sole provider, but I contribute a healthy portion of their diets each month. Some of them are simple to feed, they eat non game fish- snakehead, buffalo, carp, barbel, shad, etc. SO I fill up a couple 5gal buckets and they are happy for a couple weeks.
The others, range in different ethnicities and religions. SHELLFISH are a no no to the a few of them so no clams, oysters, muscles, crabs, etc. Bottom feeders. So i can bring them FISH but thats it.
Doing what I do isnt a necessity or anything like that. I saw it improved the quality of life for some people and do what I can to help.
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You're a good person skygear, if you ever come by Copenhagen I'll buy you a beer and show you a couple of the good spots, so bring your suit and gun.
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I really do enjoy fishing/ hunting in all its forms. Its such a satisfying feeling to know that everyone is eating because of me.
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Yup, providing for others does give one a justified sense of satisfaction.
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08-06-2012, 04:10 AM
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Re: Free Diving Spear Fishing
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What if you made up a rig with an airbag attached for you spear gun?
just some compressed air and a pull pin then a lead line so you can swim around using your snorkel and let the buoy do all the work for you.
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If you have a reel on the gun you shoot it, swim to the top, let it run, and try and fight it like a fishing rod. If you don't have a reel, you shoot it, drop the gun and let the float fight the fish and follow the float around.
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08-06-2012, 06:13 AM
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I'm on a few boards but people are fin achy. People post up what their plans are then flake at the last minuite. or leave a number than never respond. I found 1 out of 10 is on the money.
Floats... I keep a couple 6"/9" ball buoys for that reason. 8oz lead weights and a 150' spool of line on each. I found them washed up on the beach one day. kind of like this but all red
I only have used them once or twice. Normally I make a visual note of the location. My Bluewater float is 100lbs resistance the small 2 buoys i keep additionally are ~25# additional resistance. just in case I get another big one I can use my tuna clip and link them all to the float line. I hit a shark by accident once and since then I went to a better float. There were a few blacktips on a wreck and I was going after a Hog fish. Right as I took the shot, a shark got spooked and turned into the path. Brained him. Ate him too, but the hogfish was the target. Tying the monster up to my float and swimming 2 miles back to shore was difficult.
I mentioned I lost my snorkel and fin... _-_ Found the fin for sale on the net. In the same area I lost it. Fingers crossed, I'll hopefully get in touch with the guy in the morning. I sent him a message to call me but no one wants to miss out on money. I really hope the guy does the right thing tomorrow. I'll offer him a reward but not wanting to pay for it again. Offer some stuff in trade.
I appreciate the kind words but I really just do it for the other people and for fun.
I know I need to anchor  was more of one of the "I'm out, concentrating on my breathing and hunting. I don't want to get to far out and have to worry about fuel or other things." Coast Guard (or anyone for that matter) gets real nosey when they see an abandoned craft.
You'd be surprised how many times I was coming up after a few minutes and saw people grabbing my gear or were startled that there was someone there. Apparently people don't all know what a dive flag is or that it basically means "Stay the fuck back you could kill someone". I came up red with rage when 2 vessels decided to stop and have a beer party over my float. Bottles and cans in the water, engines running, and then an anchor fell!.
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Fuck their props with string. Or bring a powerhead and an aqua lung and swim away very fast.
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I'm on a few boards but people are fin achy. People post up what their plans are then flake at the last minuite. or leave a number than never respond. I found 1 out of 10 is on the money.
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Sorry to hear.
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Floats... I keep a couple 6"/9" ball buoys for that reason. 8oz lead weights and a 150' spool of line on each. I found them washed up on the beach one day. kind of like this but all red

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I was thinking something a bit smaller, I'll put the idea aside for now, I'm thinking of making my own torch, and modding my gun further.
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I only have used them once or twice. Normally I make a visual note of the location. My Bluewater float is 100lbs resistance the small 2 buoys i keep additionally are ~25# additional resistance. just in case I get another big one I can use my tuna clip and link them all to the float line. I hit a shark by accident once and since then I went to a better float. There were a few blacktips on a wreck and I was going after a Hog fish. Right as I took the shot, a shark got spooked and turned into the path. Brained him. Ate him too, but the hogfish was the target. Tying the monster up to my float and swimming 2 miles back to shore was difficult.
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I have no trouble imagining that!
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I mentioned I lost my snorkel and fin... _-_ Found the fin for sale on the net. In the same area I lost it. Fingers crossed, I'll hopefully get in touch with the guy in the morning. I sent him a message to call me but no one wants to miss out on money. I really hope the guy does the right thing tomorrow. I'll offer him a reward but not wanting to pay for it again. Offer some stuff in trade.
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No one should make money off a fellow spearo's misfortune, in much the same way it should be a given we help each other if we get in trouble out there!
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I know I need to anchor  was more of one of the "I'm out, concentrating on my breathing and hunting. I don't want to get to far out and have to worry about fuel or other things." Coast Guard (or anyone for that matter) gets real nosey when they see an abandoned craft.
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You got a point, I'm used to swimming out from the coast, so I've never really had that concern.
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You'd be surprised how many times I was coming up after a few minutes and saw people grabbing my gear or were startled that there was someone there. Apparently people don't all know what a dive flag is or that it basically means "Stay the fuck back you could kill someone". I came up red with rage when 2 vessels decided to stop and have a beer party over my float. Bottles and cans in the water, engines running, and then an anchor fell!.
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Shit! Good thing you didn't get hit, what a bunch of irresponsible fucktards! It'd probably be steaming from my wet suit too, if I'd had the same experience - not only are they dumping their trash into the sea which is bad enough, but ignoring a "diver below" flag is downright stupid, and a total disregard of other people's safety.
What did they respond? I imagine you gave them a good scolding...
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I have used SCUBA to spearfish. Personally not my thing. I like to free dive and feel I am more agile in the water that way. If theres a fish you want with extra weight on(tank, bc, regs etc.) you can't really Lunge towards your fish in an energy effective manner.
Depending on my stress levels, I can stay down ~3min more or less. Spearing and all. I don't really pay attention to the depth on a normal basis, the time under is my important number. I take my total time I can hold my breath, time it takes to get down, subtract that times 2 and I'm left with an approximate bottom time.
so- hypothetically -
3min breath hold, 1 min down, 1min up, leaves 1min bottom time.
3-(1+1)=1
As for the suits, I'm most areas, the first 15' are a great temperature, after that its cold and uncomfortable. Half of the FreeDive breathing technique(s) are to be in a comfortable state. If you are worried about the temp of the water at specific depths, you are less likely to want to be at those depths. Theres where the wetsuit comes in. You get to a maintain a constant temp no matter what depth or water temp.
Being comfortable and stress free are the keys to successful deeper dives with longer breath holds.
The biggest part of spearfishing, just like land hunting, is proper shot placement. Most of the time when you shoot the fish you "stun" them. With larger fish you use a "Tuna Line" attached to your float. They can fight all they want and its all in vein. On the bigger fish you use a "slip Tip' on your spear.
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Well that doesn't seem very fun. Half the appeal of fishing is the manliness of fighting large fish up to the boat, and then into the boat.
Edit: There is an easier way to kill flounder, if you're unfamiliar with gigging. All you need is a flashlight and a broomstick with a roofing nail attached to the end.
Double Edit: Yall use a ridiculous amount of gear  The times I've been a part of some spear fishing it went down like "go to oil rig 25-50 miles out, fish for snapper/limit out on red snapper. Grab spear, grab goggles, jump in water and hunt for mangroves." wetsuits, fins, snorkels, flash lights, knives, bouys? We didn't really use any of that
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Well that doesn't seem very fun. Half the appeal of fishing is the manliness of fighting large fish up to the boat, and then into the boat.
Edit: There is an easier way to kill flounder, if you're unfamiliar with gigging. All you need is a flashlight and a broomstick with a roofing nail attached to the end.
Double Edit: Yall use a ridiculous amount of gear The times I've been a part of some spear fishing it went down like "go to oil rig 25-50 miles out, fish for snapper/limit out on red snapper. Grab spear, grab goggles, jump in water and hunt for mangroves." wetsuits, fins, snorkels, flash lights, knives, bouys? We didn't really use any of that
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The difference is the water temp and amount of effort involved in getting to your desired location.
Using a boat, you cut fins half of the way out. Legally you are required for a float and flag whenever diving, snorkeling etc. In the Gulf, temps are comfortable in the depths you are after them.
Weights and a wetsuit go hand in hand. But then again so does body fat. Skinny less fat people dont have a huge buoyancy issue.
Lights come into play when you are actually "Hunting" the fish in rocks and caves. Or as the light fades away in the evenings.
Having a boat accessible to you is a great advantage.
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Great news on my fin. He sent it to me in the mail and will have it by friday!
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Well that doesn't seem very fun. Half the appeal of fishing is the manliness of fighting large fish up to the boat, and then into the boat.
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Oh, but it's hilarious. 
And actively hunting those large fish in their home element, takes a whole other level of manliness than simply plopping in a line and pulling them up, I should know, I do both...
Here's a guy who shot a flattie in Norway, as an example:
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Edit: There is an easier way to kill flounder, if you're unfamiliar with gigging. All you need is a flashlight and a broomstick with a roofing nail attached to the end.
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Yup, the flatties can even simply be picked up by hand if you can find 'em before you run out of air, but no broomstick is fast enough to get a sea trout.
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Double Edit: Yall use a ridiculous amount of gear  The times I've been a part of some spear fishing it went down like "go to oil rig 25-50 miles out, fish for snapper/limit out on red snapper. Grab spear, grab goggles, jump in water and hunt for mangroves." wetsuits, fins, snorkels, flash lights, knives, bouys? We didn't really use any of that
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I don't think the conditions are even remotely comparable, or maybe the times have changed, I don't know, but where I live doing as you describe would at best be a very unpleasant experience, at worst it could kill you.
Try getting snagged on one of the new kickass braided fishing lines, and not have a knife on you, the thickness I prefer when I'm out with rod n' reel (like today) has a breaking point of 10.6 kg which isn't much, but try breaking it with your hands, and I can almost guarantee you'll end up bloody as the 0.2mm line cuts into your flesh instead of breaking, and drowned...
Having a knife is a bare minimum if you want to stay alive, but that won't save you from being run over by some muppet in a speed boat, a buoy might save you, besides, it can be used to carry extra gear, food, water, and so on, in an emergency it'll keep you afloat when you drift out to sea, exhausted.
I could go on and on but trust me, there's a very good reason for bringing the gear we bring.
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Heres a great video for starters.
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Oh and heres a marker buoy made for us
m,ore great stuff
this has 125 videos in it ->
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So heres the double edged sword. No matter how much stuff happens, theres always a negative that inevitably happens. No surprise to me, its the life I have come acustomed to.
PROS-
So my fin is in transit
Bought another snorkel
Bought new Orca Swim shorts for practice
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My 'unicorn' came unraveled.
translation- > I mentioned earlier that I had a gun that basically wasnt fully released to the world in transit to me. Well, that fell through. The guy whom had it for testing had some concerns about the safety of it and voiced his comments in a public forum. Sporasub/ OMER caught wind of it and is requesting it back and fully refunding the money spent on it.
I have been anticipating the release of this gun for almost 2 years. Caught wind of it before there were any press releases. Saw something I wasnt suposed to awhile back and kept mouth shut.
Cant believe it was paid for, less than a week away from me having it in my hands - now its gone AGain>
Hopefully whatever safety concerns are worked out and I'm moved back to the top of the list.
On another note, I think I'll just get the dive light I wanted then. ~$450 is what I will have coming back to me once its all said and done. Dive light would be more practical right now anyways.
Picking up the SporaSub ONE AIR wasn't planed for this month, but the opportunity presented itself and I jumped on it.
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Oh and heres a marker buoy made for us
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That's pretty much exactly the sort of gizmo I was thinking about, strapped to the main buoy it shouldn't create too much drag, and it'll drop the anchor to the correct depth all by itself, no unwinding or anything, could it be any easier?
About the whole gun thing don't feel too bad; it's probably for the better not using a gun that has an unreliable trigger/sear/safety/wishbone/ whatever the problem might be, night time spearfishing can be dangerous enough in itself, but I'd take that over an unreliable gun any day, ending up shish-kebab'ed would really suck.
And remember mate, a light gives you more hours to hunt, a new gun doesn't.
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I looked for the Xeccon D3X and came up blank. their site is 502'd ...
I found a site with info on the 3000lumen light but thats it. http://www.torchythebatteryboy.com/p...tabase_06.html
It turns out the only real difference now That I'm serious about the light is the flood light output.
model -----flood lumens----spot lumens--------------MSRP price----- Best on net?
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^^Kickass link!
Just because someone might find it useful:
A clickable link.
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Just in case someone should find it difficult to understand why spearfishing is such an awesome sport, here's what I did this weekend.
Friday - Didn't get bleedin' shitfaced for a change.
Saturday - Went up to the north coast with two mates, one is a spearo and the other isn't, he is however quite adept at finding ("catching", if you ask him) Golden Chantrelle which is a crazy delicious fungus. I think he "caught" at least a kg, more than enough that's for sure.
This is what they look like on a slice o' toast before you's truly devours them:
In the meantime the rest of us went out and under for around 3 hours, there was onshore wind which usually means the visibility is low, but the wind was hardly noticeable so we had a decent vis. around 6-7 meter. No waves to speak of.
We went out from a fairly popular beach, at least there was a good deal of people swimming. As has been occurring more and more lately, I bumped into a good sized fish on my way out (Sea Trout, at least a couple o' kilo's) and took a shot which missed, oh well.
Further out I came across a Greater Weever - northern Europe's most venomous fish, potential deadly but also a great delicacy, they like to hide in the sand with venomous spines sticking out for some unsuspecting beach goer to step on. We export 'em to France and Spain - and sent the spear through its head.
This happened four times over because I expected we'd be five for dinner:

There was a virtual shitload of them, none of them near the people fucking around in the shallows, but I've spotted these fish in less than 1ft of water. The ones I shot I got some 4-5 meters down.
After having made sure we'd all get at least something, I swam back to an area with a whole lot of sea weed; my mate thought he'd seen Mullets there, so I thought I might give it a shot. Long story short, I found and opened up on a ~3kg, on three different occasions, but the spear never struck home, on the other hand I was shooting at max range and through kelp n' shit, so maybe it wasn't as easy as it seemed.
Striped Mullet, when you encounter them first time, are pretty shy but often come back to check you out, get in position in the kelp within 30 sec's or so and wait for a second chance. That's what I did, and missed, but the fish was definitely there.
At this point my mate wants to go drop off some of his lead back at the car, and I tell him to be on the lookout for Mullet in the shallows, the bastard swims 20 meters, and then shouts for me. Sticking my nose above the water, I can see he's just speared a Striped Mullet, nice size too for a rookie, around 2.5-2.8 kg:

Shortly after he dropped a new titanium knife... Sometimes we must sacrifice...
Decent shot placement though, cleaning it I could see he'd partially crushed the spine, he said there wasn't much fight in it.
Half an hour later we decided to get out of the soup, on my way in I got a trout on a snap shot, poor shot placement, and too small but everything went so damn fast and for a split second I confused minimum sizes, gotta remember taking my time:

It tasted like a million bux though, and so did the other fish, over here all three species are considered very fine, so we ate like kings.
Sunday - Headed out with the spearo from the day before, another who's been with us on a trip last week but this time with new gear, and a newbie.
First we dropped in at a sure fire flattie spot so the new guy could get a few easy targets, but he didn't shoot anything, perhaps he needs to get accustomed to diving in suit and with weights, we did see a lot of different fish though. One of the guys shot a nice Turbot, I got a Brill nearly the same size, and a slightly smaller Plaice.
Then we drove the 25km to the spot we were at Saturday. This time there was a bit of bumps on the water, and vis. was down to 3.5-4 meters at best.
After having spooked a big Mullet and having missed yet another shot when it came back, I headed for deeper waters and venomous fish, but gave up as visibility simply was crap and decided on shallow water aguatto amongst the kelp, slowly making my way through, hoping to surprise a Striped Mullet. As luck would have it, I had the sun coming in from the sea and saw a flash of something big just beyond my field of vision, and froze. Yup, big Mullet coming in from my 2 o' clock a couple of seconds later, lined up the shot and sent the spear over its head by less than an inch from only 2 meters between spear tip and fish. 
It didn't return so I moved on, next time I saw it, the spear struck home, but I think the flopper failed to deploy, the fish took off leaving me with a whirring line reel, as I traced the line through the kelp, I found the spear at the end, lying on the bottom.
I searched for the fish for half an hour, but never found it. 
Not long after that, a much smaller one came into view, the spear caught it just above the spine around midship from some 2.5-3 meters, not the best shot placement, but the fish somersaulted, I dropped the gun and raced in. After a short struggle the water turned red and I praised myself lucky we don't have bulls or tigers around these waters.
That was my last fish of the day, weighing in at 2.1kg:
The final tally for today reads 2 X Plaice, 1 X Brill, 1 X Turbot, and 1X Mullet:
After we'd stripped off the suits I took one last look at our hunting grounds, and decided to save this sunset for you guys:
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Arh crappins, I wonder how I could overlook the following for so long, here's an answer.
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That sucks that you've gotta don those dive suits; the gulf is usually warm enough that I don't ever wear mine. Have any of you ever used SCUBA equipment with the spear? That's something I've always been dying to do out here; biggest problem I forsee is shooting too big a fish and it pulling me all over for a little while.
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Nope, where I'm from it's considered if not a taboo, then at least not-very-well-looked-upon; spearfishing was illegalized in Øresund (bit o' water between DK and Sweden) after a couple of dudes in the 80's speared several hundred kg's worth of Eel per night, and that ended up harming the commercial fishermen which pointed out that -"that can't possibly be for their own consumption, so they must be selling them without paying tax, and it hurts our biz" or something to that effect. I'm not inclined to disagree, they did after all go down with tanks, and even though it might take some skill to dive with tanks, it takes absolutely no skill to spear bottom feeders, especially not when you're using a multi-pronged head, like they did.
Some of my close relatives are certified for SCUBA diving, and before I got into freediving/spearfishing I asked them why the hell they didn't just bring a speargun on their dives, their response was something along the lines of -"we're not down there to shoot fish, that's not the point, SCUBA diving is to explore under the sea, not to change what's down there, so others won't get a chance to see it."
After I started taking a closer look at what's actually out there, without a tank, I understood them perfectly.
"Hunting" for me, is hunting something in its natural habitat, I'm sure you'll agree, and not giving yourself unfair advantages (trawling for example, isn't hunting, much in the same way breeding cattle or pigs on a farm isn't hunting).
As a freediver I don't feel like I'm better off than the fish, I'm hunting them in their natural habitat, so I have to know what I'm doing if I want to be successful, strapping a tank to my back would be an unfair advantage, and I'd be making a hell of a lot of bubbles scaring most of the wild life away to boot, but when freediving I can be as close to them as possible, despite being out of my element and with a limited oxygen supply. I'm not dependent on how up to date my gear is, whether I keep track of depth, decomp, and what not, instead of being and intrusion into their world, I try to blend with it...
As a hunter, I'm sure you fully understand.
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Great catch. The mushrooms looked nice too. If you have a smart phone running android, I got an app for you. Search mobilism.org for Mushrooms.
I went to an INLET this weekend. WOW that was a dynamic waterway. Every few hours it was changing direction and clarity. I took 2 shots and missed both times. Vis was only 1' .
I ended up moving a bit and got 1 Blue Fish and 3 Croakers.
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Great catch.
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Thanks.
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The mushrooms looked nice too.
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They most certainly were, I think he fried them with some salt and lemon juice.
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I don't, but I think my mate does, I'll pass it on to him.
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I went to an INLET this weekend. WOW that was a dynamic waterway. Every few hours it was changing direction and clarity. I took 2 shots and missed both times. Vis was only 1' .
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Sounds annoying, the current was pretty steady where I was, but the second spot on Sunday was more exposed to the wind.
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I ended up moving a bit and got 1 Blue Fish and 3 Croakers.
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Hmm, I was thinking...
I assume we all hate losing fish, for all the obvious reasons, but we can bring down the numbers of fish we hit but don't get to take home.
Of course we can't prevent a fish from ripping itself off the spear if we make a poor shot like hitting it low in the guts, but we can prevent the flopper from closing during the fight, as fish have been lost to that.
So, I was thinking about making a spring assisted flopper that'd deploy automatically upon exit, but decided to do a little research first. Apparently someone else already found a good solution, so I'll repost it here just for good measure.
I assume everyone knows about the "bending the flopper tip away from the shaft" trick, these days I think all floppers come that way from the factory but sometimes they need to be bent just a little more.
However, that won't prevent it from closing, so to keep the flopper extended one can make a dent or two in the flopper just behind the rivet, so the flopper ever so slightly pinches the shaft.
I used a round nose plier to squeeze the flopper from the shaft side just behind the rivet, and it seems to work as it should, there's still enough play to open up a bit, but it won't close on its own.
I've drawn up a quick sketch, the area that should be given a squeeze is marked in red:

If you roll the spear between your hands inertia should force the flopper open, if it stays open you're good to go.
Another thing I've thought about, but need some feedback on, is whether or not it'd be a good idea to install a small magnet in the muzzle of my gun.
See, the thing is I shoot an open-muzzle and the spear is held down by the line, the problem is that it can at times be a bit difficult to reload as the spear won't necessarily stay in the groove at the muzzle, I reckon a magnet could help here, but I'd probably have to make a trade off, the question is for what?
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Heres where I was. I floated around the point there.
The flopper issue... I havent run into the issue too often, matter of fact once. That was my fault though,. I inspected my shaft and found SAND in the joint of the flopper.
Magnets and salt water... Electrolosis? might promote rust on the shaft. Also I can possibly see a little change in accuracy/ trajectory, being a little more resistance. Not sure though, try it and see.
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Heres where I was. I floated around the point there.
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I just took a look at the place on Google Earth, it looks pretty heavily trafficked, stay safe man.
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The flopper issue... I havent run into the issue too often, matter of fact once. That was my fault though,. I inspected my shaft and found SAND in the joint of the flopper.
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Yup, sand in the flopper sucks, which is why I occasionally tilt my gun to the side to check if the flopper can move freely.
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Magnets and salt water... Electrolosis? might promote rust on the shaft. Also I can possibly see a little change in accuracy/ trajectory, being a little more resistance. Not sure though, try it and see.
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Apparently there's already at least one model out there, where magnets are used to hold the spear in place (Riffe's Mag-Track EDIT: Apparently all Riffe guns comes with magnets these days), and it shouldn't affect the spear noticeably regarding neither rust nor accuracy, guess I better get me some neodymium magnets then.
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Plenty of sources in bad Ideas for magnets.
It is one of the premier destinations on the east coast for tourists to go to the beach.,
I cant believe theres a couple people hitting that on a weekly basis. Man talk about knowing your local waters. They must be there all the time to get to know that place. Weather was a factor for sure also. Been raining off and on for the past week in that area.
I need to make my own gun soon. I'll order a piece of wood and get to work on it.
Being a techy, I want to integrate modern amenities into it. LED Lights, now maybe the magnet rail, maybe a dive computer ( torn apart dive watch) Integrated camera or camera mount... I dont know - I have to look into it.
Besides the advancement of pneumatic tech, integrated rails and materials, they havent changed much at all.
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It's no problem just buying them, that way I get to decide size, strength, shape, and so on.
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So, do you have any laws prohibiting you from spearfishing near people swimming over there? Over here we can't get any closer than 500 meters to the "regular" beach goers, but that's rarely a problem, either we're too far out, or on a different stretch of the beach.
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I cant believe theres a couple people hitting that on a weekly basis. Man talk about knowing your local waters. They must be there all the time to get to know that place.
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If I could go out every week, I would! 
Unfortunately there's annoying things like "work" and so on, if I hadn't just had two weeks off, I 'd probably only have been in the drink on the weekends and probably only one of the days. But, one of my colleagues is also a spearo (the guy I was out with on the last four trips, he was the one that got the first Mullet) so we've talked about hitting the beach after work and we should get about four hours of sunlight so it might actually be worth it.
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Weather was a factor for sure also. Been raining off and on for the past week in that area.
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I never go out if it has rained the day before, or if there's more than 5-8 mps of onshore wind as visibility will be nonexistent.
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I need to make my own gun soon. I'll order a piece of wood and get to work on it.
Being a techy, I want to integrate modern amenities into it. LED Lights, now maybe the magnet rail, maybe a dive computer ( torn apart dive watch) Integrated camera or camera mount... I dont know - I have to look into it.
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There's some guys in Israel that makes laser sights for spearguns, if you really want to hi-tech it.
Don't know if it's for me though, as an airsoft sniper I've never liked laser sights as they give your position away, and doing mostly aspetto or aguatto hunting (unless I'm just drifting and taking surface shots) I think I'm better off just staying as hidden as I can possibly be.
About magnets, maybe place a magnet near the back end of the rail, someone on another spear board mentioned it as it might help in reloading, and I've thought about it myself... It seems like a decent idea...
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That's true!
BTW, I just ordered a Salvimar ST, and hope I'll learn to live with a serrated edge on one side, after all it isn't nearly as serrated as my present brainer, but it's a hell of a lot pointier...
Oh, and another thing, did you get your fin back yet?
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Got my fin back.
I dont like the idea of the laser, as stealth as possible and unless its an IR laser with special optics... I have seen the way fish react to lasers and its not good. They either have the cat effect or they run.
If the laser was ran through a filter and used a scatter/ dispersion lens for a spot light. I could see the benefit.
The laws vary state to state. Looking at google/maps people stay on the MD side, the DE side is where we spear. In FL its 100' from the shore or fishing structure. But all in all, common sense reigns supreme. If I see a potentially bad situation, I stear clear. The environmental Wacko's are against us as it is. SO we are careful about what we put up online or where we go.
One state, you can't spear in fresh water, but you can in just about every other state. In the same one, you can spear EVERYTHING except Rock Fish/ Striped Bass. The regs are all screwy. Theres another legistature proposed to make the lobster a federally regulated item. BIG NO NO>
Growing up in Bermuda, it rained everyday. But the clarity didnt change unless there was a tropical storm or hurricane.
I think the guys going so frequent have 9-5 jobs. and off on the weekends too. I was going early am before school, getting home afternoon doing homework then heading out again as a kid.
I understand the work issue, but I feel peoples location in reference to where they dive is a factor too.
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08-16-2012, 05:04 PM
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Re: Free Diving Spear Fishing
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Got my fin back.
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Awesome, I was hoping for that.
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I dont like the idea of the laser, as stealth as possible and unless its an IR laser with special optics... I have seen the way fish react to lasers and its not good. They either have the cat effect or they run.
If the laser was ran through a filter and used a scatter/ dispersion lens for a spot light. I could see the benefit.
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I've never seen the effect a laser might have on a fish, but I'll take your word for it.
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The laws vary state to state. Looking at google/maps people stay on the MD side, the DE side is where we spear. In FL its 100' from the shore or fishing structure. But all in all, common sense reigns supreme. If I see a potentially bad situation, I stear clear. The environmental Wacko's are against us as it is. SO we are careful about what we put up online or where we go.
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Understandably, what isn't so understandable though, is why anyone could get butthurt over spearfishing, after all we can pick and choose which fish to shoot, and the whole deal is over a lot quicker than if you got the fish on rod & reel...
I mean, if they get a sore ass because of people like us, it's strange they don't go after the trawlers, being crushed in a trawl for hours is a hell of a lot worse than being shot and killed 10 seconds later, shit, sometimes we even kill them instantly and don't even need the brainer...
To be honest, I'd say spearfishing is per definition the most environmentally friendly form of fishing there is.
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One state, you can't spear in fresh water, but you can in just about every other state. In the same one, you can spear EVERYTHING except Rock Fish/ Striped Bass. The regs are all screwy. Theres another legistature proposed to make the lobster a federally regulated item. BIG NO NO>
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Over here we can't hunt in freshwater (in neighboring Sweden spearfishing is illegal everywhere), we gotta stay at least 500m from any stream mouth, and IIRC it's the same with distance to stationary fishing structures.
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Growing up in Bermuda, it rained everyday. But the clarity didnt change unless there was a tropical storm or hurricane.
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Hmm, maybe it has something to do with soil conditions then.
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I think the guys going so frequent have 9-5 jobs. and off on the weekends too. I was going early am before school, getting home afternoon doing homework then heading out again as a kid.
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At the moment I'm one of those 9-5 guys, but I'm usually too busted to go anywhere when I get home, but that's ok, I've got stuff to do at home as well.
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I understand the work issue, but I feel peoples location in reference to where they dive is a factor too.
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I'd say you hit the nail dead on the head.
BTW, I just got my Salvimar ST today, it's a fucking nice brainer and after all it might not be so bad to have one edge serrated, I do have one complaint though, it didn't come with straps - for some reason the manufacturer has decided it should be located on the belt which is fairly weird as it's probably not the best all-around diving knife, but extremely pointy and pretty much made for stabbing through skulls etc.
Oh, and I've realized the Italianesians must all be around 3ft tall, there's only room for 3 fingers under the strap  , but when all's said and done I'm happy with it, the lock appears very sturdy.
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Re: Free Diving Spear Fishing
Today it was the plan that myself and a couple of the other spearos I usually hunt with, should have been out but a broken down car earlier this week put a stop to that.
So, I made arrangements online with a couple of guys I'd never met, and who didn't know each other either, and we ended up on the good ol' north coast for a bit of flattie bashing, here's a pic of the tally, most are Plaice but there's a couple of Flounders there as well.
EDIT: I got my new Salvimar ST brainer tested in live conditions after having a 0-trip last week, it's flawless, it just slides in and does what it's supposed to, with gloves on you get the best grip with fore- and index finger through the strap and the rest just curling around. It's so short there's very little chance of hurting yourself accidentally, and so pointy it'll pierce through just about anything you might come across, with next to no effort.
It does need a wipe down after you've run it over with freshwater though, and it'd probably be a good idea to strip it down for drying, but besides that it's an awesome brainer.
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Re: Free Diving Spear Fishing
I Strip my Salvimar down after every use. Just another Hex wrench in the Gear bag. Its exactly as described... A killer. I use vaseline (petroleum jelly) on my whole knife and under the handle too. Just a very thin coat. It really helps with corrosion prevention.
Transportation issues are never a good thing, but it looks like you made new friends in the middle of the kaos.
Sweet looking catch too.
Anyone have an Underwater camera? I'd like to see what the water conditions are like in your neck of the woods.
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08-26-2012, 08:05 PM
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Re: Free Diving Spear Fishing
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I Strip my Salvimar down after every use. Just another Hex wrench in the Gear bag. Its exactly as described... A killer. I use vaseline (petroleum jelly) on my whole knife and under the handle too. Just a very thin coat. It really helps with corrosion prevention.
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Hmm, good idea, think I'll pass it on over here.
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Transportation issues are never a good thing, but it looks like you made new friends in the middle of the kaos.
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Yup, and it gets even better, one of the guys on the forum couldn't join us that day, but when he heard about our trip he decided to invite at first the three of us that got out & under, but later extended the invitation to include the rest of the users to come visit him for a day of spearfishing and following dinner at his place near the beach...
This hobby is awesome!
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Sweet looking catch too.
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Yeah, it wasn't too bad, we didn't get any pelagic's, so on the next trip we'll be going to the spot where I shot the mullet, trout and weevers, I can hardly wait.
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Anyone have an Underwater camera? I'd like to see what the water conditions are like in your neck of the woods.
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I've been meaning to ask you the same thing but haven't gotten around to do it, I don't have an underwater camera, but I can certainly find some YouTube videos that gives a good representation of the conditions over here, and the fish we get.
Hold on, I need to go buy some smokes and then I'll be right on it.
EDIT: Here we go:
Mullet
Flatties
Trout
Cod
If you want more from Denmark, just search for "uv jagt" on youtube, it should work.
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