The Parenting Thread

[HelloClarice]

Originally Posted by Fox Paws

I wouldn't want my kid running around in a tutu at that age. That type of shit is why kids grow up gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that, except when it's my child.

yeah, it's weird and too politically correct. i have zero problems with homosexuality but i dislike allowing things parents wouldn't necessarily approve of. but i should stop hijacking Hamp's thread.

[Shrike]

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

Fuck outta here with that carbon footprint garbage and government handout nonsense. I provide for mine. Your tax dollars provide nothing. Get off my nuts, jellyfag.

And, you're wrong. I don't like my son. I love him to the bone. So, what if parenthood stimulates my ego? Problem? I don't rub it in anyone's face. I started this thread to contribute to the community and help those that could gain from it. Raising children is difficult, but not without reward. If I can help someone find a fraction of the joy that comes from it, then I would consider this thread a success.

Do you not see the problem if 7 billion people think the same way you do? And yeah you are definitely rubbing it in people's faces, all over this thread.

[Lavender Lilac]

I'm of the opinion that anyone who has more than two children is acting irresponsibly and probably immorally. Overpopulation is more serious than most seem to realize.

[FoodStamps]

Originally Posted by Lavender Lilac

I'm of the opinion that anyone who has more than two children is acting irresponsibly and probably immorally. Overpopulation is more serious than most seem to realize.

what about your kid ?

[Jesus "Fuck Lepers" Christ]

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

Any and all discssion is appreciated. After all, this is your thread not mine, despite the opening sentence. Feel free to post anything relating to parenthood.

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

Fuck outta here with that carbon footprint garbage and government handout nonsense. I provide for mine. Your tax dollars provide nothing. Get off my nuts, jellyfag. So, what if parenthood stimulates my ego? Problem? I don't rub it in anyone's face.

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

Lol, every morning I get to say hello to the very purpose of life itself.Why are you wasting yours?

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

You'll never know that kind of happiness unless you have a child of your own. There's nothing more fulfilling than hearing your child say, "I love you." I could type a ten page report on just that one emotion and not even come close to making you understand.

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

Hey asshole, you jelly?

lol

[Jesus "Fuck Lepers" Christ]

I'm sure your son will never need government aid, for anything.

[FoodStamps]

Originally Posted by Lavender Lilac

I'm of the opinion that anyone who has more than two children is acting irresponsibly and probably immorally. Overpopulation is more serious than most seem to realize.

do you pay child support ?

[kroz]

my babies momma keeps asking me if i want the baby to have my last name. does that put me even deeper into a legal bind ? as far as child support and things of that nature

[HampTheToker]

Originally Posted by kroz

hampthetoker we should have a parents of zoklet club

by the way shed any more light on the legality of paternity and child support? experiences?

Well, there really isn't that much more to it. The court can compel a paternity test when the mother decides to seek support. A summons will be issued and you'll be ducking a process server. I don't know where you live or how the law is there, but in TN you can be deemed served if the judge decides a reasonable attempt was made to serve you and the information given (address, phone, ssn, etc.) was accurate. This will only be used to determine custody, however. Support can only be set when it's proven that you are the father, and it can be applied retroactively, meaning that if the case is adjudicated when the child is two, then you could possibly be responsible for two years of back payments.

The best advice I can give you is to get a good lawyer. Don't let her just ream your asshole. Shoot for full custody (which you probably won't get) to use as a bargaining chip to settle for something more reasonable such as joint custody or visitation. The goal is minimize the amount of support you'll be responsible for. She opened them legs, so she should have to pay her fair share, too.

Originally Posted by HelloClarice

my only problem is the fit-pitching - it's a fine line figuring out when to ignore it and let them cry it out or when to intervene and give them a hug. i try to give them simple choices so they don't get frustrated, i pick my battles (if a kid wants to wear our dress-up clothes to lunch i could care less), and i do my best to distract and redirect them to another activity if i notice they're getting to the boiling point but sometimes nothing works. how do you handle it? if you were to put your son in daycare how would you want their teacher to handle it?

I spank when he throws a hissy fit. Now, all I have to do is tell him the consequences if he doesn't stop, and he falls in line. Obviously, you couldn't do that. Barring that, bribery or redirection work, too. Keep candy in your pocket and reward positive behavior accordingly. Not much different than training a dog, lol. Like I've said previously, it's all about conditioning. Still, behavior is learned at home, so if these children have shitheads for parents, then there really isn't too much you can do to correct their bad parenting.

Also, time outs. They work more for some kids than others. Shouldn't last more than about five minutes. Depends on the child, though. I definitely have to hand it to you, though. Handling other people's kids can be pretty rough. But, yeah. Keep some sugar free candy on hand and reward positive behavior. Let the other kids see you do it, too. They'll learn that there's a physical tasty reward for behaving and doing as they're told.

[HampTheToker]

Originally Posted by kroz

my babies momma keeps asking me if i want the baby to have my last name. does that put me even deeper into a legal bind ? as far as child support and things of that nature

Definitely. She'll probably want you to sign a voluntary acknowledgement of paternity, "For the birth certificate." It's a trap. It's the easiest and quickest way to slap your ass with child support.

[HampTheToker]

Originally Posted by Shrike

Do you not see the problem if 7 billion people think the same way you do? And yeah you are definitely rubbing it in people's faces, all over this thread.

If 7 billion people thought the same as I do, then you wouldn't hear about children dying in hot cars, shaken baby syndrome, or abandonment.

Originally Posted by Jesus "Fuck Lepers" Christ

I'm sure your son will never need government aid, for anything.

Not if I do my job. Responsibility, nigga. I haz it.

[Lavender Lilac]

Originally Posted by FoodStamps

what about your kid ?

I have kept it under 3, and now I think I'm sterile.

[Fox Paws]

You have two kids? Lol, no wonder that's your standard for judging others. "People who have more kids than me are irresponsible!!!"

If you only had one you probably would have said two is too much.

[Lavender Lilac]

Originally Posted by Fox Paws

You have two kids? Lol, no wonder that's your standard for judging others. "People who have more kids than me are irresponsible!!!"

If you only had one you probably would have said two is too much.

Takes two to make a kid. Two people. Two people, making two more people.

Keeps things even, instead of getting bigger?

This is the basis of my rationale, though it may be crude in the face of science and old people. I'm sticking with it.

[Fox Paws]

You're right that is crude. By your logic, only one child would be even better since it's an even smaller number. So why draw the line two? In fact maybe people should just stop breeding all together.

[HampTheToker]

Originally Posted by Lavender Lilac

I'm of the opinion that anyone who has more than two children is acting irresponsibly and probably immorally. Overpopulation is more serious than most seem to realize.

There's a difference between reproducing like roaches and raising a family that you can actually sustain on your own.

[Lavender Lilac]

The world could always go China.

The future?

[Lollygagger]

The govt wants people to have kids, thats why you get paid every month just to have kids. Whos going to pay taxes in the future? Not a bunch of dead people you retards.

[Fox Paws]

No one said anything about the govt anywhere in this thread. I don't think. I just skimmed it but I'm pretty sure.

Edit: Ok after looking closer someone mentioned the government, but I don't think it was in that context

[Lollygagger]

Yeah I know but it was implied having kids wasnt good due to overpopulation/drain on resources etc

[Blunderstar]

If I ever had a kid, I wouldn't want the mother in his life. Then we could have wacky adventures ala Goof Troop.

Goof troop theme - YouTube

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[Fox Paws]

Originally Posted by Lollygagger

Yeah I know but it was implied having kids wasnt good due to overpopulation/drain on resources etc

Well at this rate, it's only a matter of time before we run out of room, but the government doesn't think about long term shit like that. They want people to have a ton of kids just like they want oil to remain as the dominant energy source.

[HampTheToker]

Originally Posted by Blunderstar

If I ever had a kid, I wouldn't want the mother in his life. Then we could have wacky adventures ala Goof Troop.

Goof troop theme - YouTube

I love it. Going to the park and drumming up conversation with milfs...priceless. I joke with my dad all the time about teaching him to go up to women to ask them, "Are you my mommy?"

[Fox Paws]

Originally Posted by Blunderstar

If I ever had a kid, I wouldn't want the mother in his life. Then we could have wacky adventures ala Goof Troop.

That almost happened to me. If the baby hadn't died, I would have been completely responsible for raising it and she would have fucked off back to her husband and other kid.

Sometimes I think that could have been cool, but then I think fuck that I'm in my twenties for fuck's sake and then I thank the Miscarriage gods.

[Proots]

Originally Posted by Lavender Lilac

I have kept it under 3, and now I think I'm sterile.

Wait, you had two children that you abandoned and you actually have the fucking audacity to the point the finger and lecture people about responsibility? Are you kidding me?

You haven't contributed a cent to their well being and you're actually going to post in this thread and wax about what is/isn't responsible parenting?

HILARIOUS!

[Shrike]

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

If 7 billion people thought the same as I do, then you wouldn't hear about children dying in hot cars, shaken baby syndrome, or abandonment.

We need more children dying in hot cars and being shaken to death.

[HampTheToker]

Originally Posted by Shrike

We need more children dying in hot cars and being shaken to death.

Don't you have some random hottie to stalk on tumblr?

[Proots]

Originally Posted by Shrike

We need more children dying in hot cars and being shaken to death.

I never understood the whole shaken baby syndrome thing. I mean...if a kids crying - isn't shaking them just going to make them cry more? The whole thing seems kind of counterproductive.

[Fox Paws]

They don't shake them because they're trying to make them stop crying, it's because they're frustrated and angry.

[Proots]

Originally Posted by Fox Paws

They don't shake them because they're trying to make them stop crying, it's because they're frustrated and angry.

Then what is shaking them going to do? If they're frustrated and angry and intent on taking it out on the baby, wouldn't "slapped baby syndrome" be more common?

[HampTheToker]

I've had this idea for a while that maybe there's something biological or instinctual that kicks in at the sound of a crying baby. Most are compelled by their instinct as a parent to comfort the child and meet it's needs. But, I think that some have lost touch with their instinct to protect their young because they care only for themselves, and see their children as a burden; like some form of maternal or paternal sociopathy. So, instead of being driven to satisfy the needs of their children, the sound becomes a twisted assault which enrages the instinctually deficient parent to the point of violence. "Why are you doing this to me? Why won't you stop? I can't take it anymore. Just stop. Stop. Stop!"

Baby killers offend us so because that act goes against our very nature. Some people just have no business reproducing.

[Lavender Lilac]

Originally Posted by Proots

Wait, you had two children that you abandoned and you actually have the fucking audacity to the point the finger and lecture people about responsibility? Are you kidding me?

You haven't contributed a cent to their well being and you're actually going to post in this thread and wax about what is/isn't responsible parenting?

HILARIOUS!

Proots, I'm so tired of this now. Stop it.

Yes, it's probably better to have one or no kids than two, but if you have more than two I think you're being way irresponsible. It's kind of sad, thinking about the future our children or grandchildren might have; what with dwindling resources and an exponentially growing population and all. Really it might be irresponsible to have even one kid, knowing what sort of life they may be forced into.

No one asks to be born.

[Proots]

Originally Posted by Lavender Lilac

Proots, I'm so tired of this now. Stop it.

Yes, it's probably better to have one or no kids than two, but if you have more than two I think you're being way irresponsible. It's kind of sad, thinking about the future our children or grandchildren might have; what with dwindling resources and an exponentially growing population and all. Really it might be irresponsible to have even one kid, knowing what sort of life they may be forced into.

No one asks to be born.

Thanks for that useless non-sequitur that didn't touch upon or refute anything I said. Go to hell, faggot. You have no business telling anyone what's "responsible parenting" and what's not - seeing as you're not responsible and you're not a parent.

[Lavender Lilac]

Even our generation has a grim looking future, because of the lack of foresight of previous generations. I'm not expecting any social security money, are you?

[Proots]

Originally Posted by HampTheToker

I've had this idea for a while that maybe there's something biological or instinctual that kicks in at the sound of a crying baby. Most are compelled by their instinct as a parent to comfort the child and meet it's needs. But, I think that some have lost touch with their instinct to protect their young because they care only for themselves, and see their children as a burden; like some form of maternal or paternal sociopathy. So, instead of being driven to satisfy the needs of their children, the sound becomes a twisted assault which enrages the instinctually deficient parent to the point of violence. "Why are you doing this to me? Why won't you stop? I can't take it anymore. Just stop. Stop. Stop!"

Baby killers offend us so because that act goes against our very nature. Some people just have no business reproducing.

I'm inclined to agree. Whether it's neglect, abandonment, abuse - or even something as extreme as murder - it's baffling that parents out there actually commit crimes like these against their own children.

And, you're right - it does go against our very nature, which is why most people find it so appalling.

Originally Posted by Tranny-Cunt Child Abandoner

Even our generation has a grim looking future, because of the lack of foresight of previous generations. I'm not expecting any social security money, are you?

Yeah, I wonder how the children you abandoned feel about that? Fucking hell, you're a disgusting piece of work. Once again, you point the finger and ponder "lack of foresight" yet, having children, deciding you don't want them and leaving them...tell me, would that be considered "lack of foresight", too?

Fucking idiot, tranny-cunt piece of shit.

[Fox Paws]

Originally Posted by Proots

Then what is shaking them going to do? If they're frustrated and angry and intent on taking it out on the baby, wouldn't "slapped baby syndrome" be more common?

They're not trying to "take it out on the baby". They're not trying to be malicious at all usually. Actively smacking and hitting them is malicious. Most of the time they're just frustrated and tired of the fucking thing and it just won't shut the hell up and they're holding it and trying to calm it down but it's not working and they just wanna go to sleep and WHY WONT THEY JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ARRRRGGGGGHHHHH *shakes baby*

[Proots]

Originally Posted by Fox Paws

They're not trying to "take it out on the baby". They're not trying to be malicious at all usually. Actively smacking and hitting them is malicious. Most of the time they're just frustrated and tired of the fucking thing and it just won't shut the hell up and they're holding it and trying to calm it down but it's not working and they just wanna go to sleep and WHY WONT THEY JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ARRRRGGGGGHHHHH *shakes baby*

Shocking. Well, hey - I guess that's what this thread is for.

[Blunderstar]

Originally Posted by Lavender Lilac

No one asks to be born.

How do you know? This is why I'll never kill myself, because I imagine that after death I'll transport back to the pre-birth world, my memories from that time will return, and I'll think, "Oh my god! I actually killed myself?! I spent all of my pre-birth savings just to get a chance to live!"

So yeah, FUCK YOU, princess zek you fucking piece of cunt. You don't know shit. Fucker.

[FoodStamps]

Originally Posted by Lavender Lilac

I have kept it under 3, and now I think I'm sterile.

but do u pay child support ?

[Blunderstar]

Originally Posted by Proots

Yeah, I wonder how the children you abandoned feel about that? Fucking hell, you're a disgusting piece of work. Once again, you point the finger and ponder "lack of foresight" yet, having children, deciding you don't want them and leaving them...tell me, would that be considered "lack of foresight", too?

Fucking idiot, tranny-cunt piece of shit.

To be fair, if I was zek's kids I wouldn't want to meet it. That shit'd probably fuck me up. Good think it abandoned them.