Marla Singer from Fight club is not real.

[a334jv2df]

She is a figment just like Tyler. Marla is the narrators contrived conflict just like Tyler is his contrived release.

"Marla... the little scratch on the roof of your mouth that would heal if only you could stop tonguing it, but you can't."

I don't know how much more obvious this could be. Marla is like a scratch "that would heal if only you could stop tonguing it...". The irritation is self induced. Marla would stop if the narrator could stop imagining her.

Discuss

[Black Flag]

That is exactly why Tyler's thugs kidnap her...right? Or why that one guy recommends against the Clam Chowder...?

I don't think she's just a part of his imagination.

[a334jv2df]

Originally Posted by Black Flag

That is exactly why Tyler's thugs kidnap her...right? Or why that one guy recommends against the Clam Chowder...

As if there weren't scenes involving Tyler that added nothing to the whole "I'm not real" thing. There were many of them, so what's your point? I don't see how Clam Chowder has anything to do with anything

[lethargic]

Originally Posted by Black Flag

That is exactly why Tyler's thugs kidnap her...right? Or why that one guy recommends against the Clam Chowder...?

I don't think she's just a part of his imagination.

This. Unless Tyler's thugs are also figments of his imagination...

[a334jv2df]

Maybe I'm missing something here. Tyler interacted with other characters even though he wasn't technically real. Tyler is the narrator is Marla. When he argues with Marla he argues with himself. When Marla has sex with Tyler she is just having sex with the narrators other half. It is so simple I don't see how everyone has overlooked it

[lethargic]

Originally Posted by TCStyle

Maybe I'm missing something here. Tyler interacted with other characters even though he wasn't technically real. Tyler is the narrator is Marla. When he argues with Marla he argues with himself. When Marla has sex with Tyler she is just having sex with the narrators other half. It is so simple I don't see how everyone has overlooked it

Feh. But how often in the movie do you see Tyler and the narrator interacting with each other AND other people at the same time? There was the scene in the car and a few others here and there, but never do you see anyone acknowledge both Tyler and the narrator as separate persons.

Black Flag mentioned the restaurant scene because the waiter actually talks to both Marla and the narrator like they're two distinct people. And later on when Tyler's minions kidnap Marla they also treat Marla and the narrator as separate people.

Read the book, OP. There's plenty more evidence to suggest that Marla's real. The book's better anyway.

[i poop in your cereal]

You're kinda stupid, aren't you?

[Shrike]

Marla is clearly real. The movie would be a lot more stupid if 2/3 of the main characters were imaginary.

[Shrike]

Originally Posted by TCStyle

Maybe I'm missing something here. Tyler interacted with other characters even though he wasn't technically real. Tyler is the narrator is Marla. When he argues with Marla he argues with himself. When Marla has sex with Tyler she is just having sex with the narrators other half. It is so simple I don't see how everyone has overlooked it

When Tyler interacts with someone, they are seeing him as Norton's character.

[teenage time killer]

it's only after you've lost everything...

[Sanchez_Machine]

That's a pretty interesting viewpoint. But I think there's too much to lend credit to Marla being real. She's acknowledged way to much in the movie as a distinct and real thing by other people. The whole "clam chowder" thing that was mentioned earlier (and for some reason, someone didn't get it) is a good example. The waiter directly contacts her, instead of, perhaps just talking to one person (AKA the Narrator). As well as the paramedics coming to coerce her out of suicide.

[beergoggles]

I'm pretty sure Marla is real.

Ever notice that the narrator NEVER says his name? It's because he's Tyler. When he's watching Tyler do something he's just having an out of body experience. When Tyler is telling him to say things, he's the one actually thinking of it.

It's like there's a daytime Tyler, white collar etc., and because he doesn't sleep there's a blue collar Tyler who works nights waiting tables and splicing porn into children's movies.

[La the Genius]

Marla would be real. The ending in the movie is fact enough.
And the ending in the book is more than enough proof.
Not to mention all the discrepancies already mentioned. Or
the countless others not mentioned yet.

(and the book is always better)

[Dog]

As someone else said, if Marla was fake, the movie would be pretty dumb.

[not me]

the first rule of fight club is that we don't talk about fight club.

[Dog]

Originally Posted by zoloff

the first rule of fight club is that we don"t talk about fight club.

AW FUCK! I just lost the game. You just lost the game too.

[TLV]

marla is real, he didnt imagine anything, he just had a alter-ego he was unaware of.



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[testerman]

The movie is obviously fantasy and impossible. Thus I view this movie as open to viewing it different ways. I think viewing it that Marla is not real is a valid point of view, as is saying that she is real. There's no definite answer to it. It's like the ending in the sopranos. was Tony killed? what happened? I think he was killed, but others think that David Chase's interview implied he wasn't killed. But it's just fantasy. it's not science.

[Powdered Toast Man please]

god isnt real...

[Sanchez_Machine]

Originally Posted by testerman

The movie is obviously fantasy and impossible. Thus I view this movie as open to viewing it different ways. I think viewing it that Marla is not real is a valid point of view, as is saying that she is real. There's no definite answer to it. It's like the ending in the sopranos. was Tony killed? what happened? I think he was killed, but others think that David Chase's interview implied he wasn't killed. But it's just fantasy. it's not science.

But I hate that. It's like the writer just gave up towards the end and decided "Ah well, let them figure it out their OWN way. Then no one is disappointed!". It doesn't seem like he would have ever intended for there to be some dilemma with Marla's reality or not, and that he actually wanted her to be a real person. I've read other Palahniuk junk before, and he doesn't seem to leave loose ends or ambiguity. At least, with the stuff I've read.

As for loose ends in a movie or book...Just fucking piece together a solution, alright? I hate when the creative people just bitch out at the end and stop being creative.

[Dog]

Originally Posted by testerman

The movie is obviously fantasy and impossible. Thus I view this movie as open to viewing it different ways. I think viewing it that Marla is not real is a valid point of view, as is saying that she is real. There's no definite answer to it. It's like the ending in the sopranos. was Tony killed? what happened? I think he was killed, but others think that David Chase's interview implied he wasn't killed. But it's just fantasy. it's not science.

This, for the most part, though like we've said before...interpreting Marla as being fake is unsubstantied, pointless, and hurts the film. It sure as hell doesn't add anything to it either. Besides, it's not nearly as ambiguous as The Sopranos' ending.

It would be like watching Rescue Me and assuming that Tommy is in a coma and nothing ever happened. Sure...it's a possible interpretation, but it's baseless and stupid.

[Cammie]

I kind of felt this way about Ferris Bueller.
That Cameron skipped school and made them both up; Ferris and his girlfriend.

The problem with this theory (and the fake Marla theory) is that we know that people have interacted with these characters seperately.

[shopping cart for brains]

Originally Posted by TCStyle

She is a figment just like Tyler. Marla is the narrators contrived conflict just like Tyler is his contrived release.

"Marla... the little scratch on the roof of your mouth that would heal if only you could stop tonguing it, but you can't."

I don't know how much more obvious this could be. Marla is like a scratch "that would heal if only you could stop tonguing it...". The irritation is self induced. Marla would stop if the narrator could stop imagining her.

Discuss

lol no yer wrong

[Sanchez_Machine]

You know what, maybe he's right? I mean, Marla COULD be a figment of the Narrators imagination. I've seen this kind of stuff in movies before.

Really, just pay close attention, you'll notice it. The apes in 2001: A Space Odyssey? The main one, the leader? All of that outer space shit, Discovery 1, HAL 9000, the Monoliths, the stargates...PFfft, figments of his imagination.

There is no argument here folks. NONE. Marla Singer is NOT real.

[shopping cart for brains]

Originally Posted by Sanchez_Machine

You know what, maybe he's right? I mean, Marla COULD be a figment of the Narrators imagination. I've seen this kind of stuff in movies before.

Really, just pay close attention, you'll notice it. The apes in 2001: A Space Odyssey? The main one, the leader? All of that outer space shit, Discovery 1, HAL 9000, the Monoliths, the stargates...PFfft, figments of his imagination.

There is no argument here folks. NONE. Marla Singer is NOT real.

Ya but in 2001 everything was fake.

Fight Club not so much.

[negz]

Just shut up and enjoy the fucking movie.

[zooting22]

Nor is anyone else from the movie. It's a movie. It's not real.