Liberals control education

[DirtySanchez]

The number of liberal commencement speakers at America's top colleges dwarfs the number of conservative speakers. The ratio, 7-1 this year, has never been higher, according to Young America's Foundation (YAF), which made a list of speakers invited to the top 100 colleges and universities in the U.S. this spring. Of the total, YAF identified 71 of the speakers as liberal or left-leaning. Only 10 speakers this year are conservative or right-leaning.
The list of commencement speakers includes prominent politicians and media figures. A total of sixteen Obama administration officials including DOE Secretary Steven Chu, EPA administrator Lisa Jackson, and HHS Sec. Kathleen Sebelius will appear. Senior Adviser Valerie Jarrett is also on the list. The Examiner's Paul Bedard notes this is more invitations in one year than all the Bush administration officials (a mere 14) who were invited to offer commencement addresses in Bush's eight years in office.
The list also features a significant number of liberal journalists. Fareed Zakaria will be speaking at both Harvard and Duke. Barbara Walters got an invite from Yale, and Katie Couric will speak at UVA. Other journalists on the list this year include Brian Williams, Ted Koppel, Christiane Amanpour, Cokie Roberts, and Soledad O'Brien. No doubt all of these journalists would argue they are neutral, not liberal. And yet, anyone who has watched them over the years knows better.
The list of conservatives invited to speak at commencements is also illuminating. Among them are Obama endorsing Colin Powell and former Democrat turned Republican Gov. Nathan Deal (who received two invitations). The left is always good at rewarding those who work for the progressive cause. You see it at the Oscars every winter and now at commencements every spring.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...vatives-7-to-1

This is why I despise the education system. It's basically a liberal indoctrination camp. This is exactly why Obama wants everyone to go to college. Bulldozing every university in the country wouldn't be a bad thing at all imo.

[TheSexyBeast821]

Originally Posted by DirtySanchez

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...vatives-7-to-1

This is why I despise the education system. It's basically a liberal indoctrination camp. This is exactly why Obama wants everyone to go to college. Bulldozing every university in the country wouldn't be a bad thing at all imo.

Or maybe universities choose intellectual people to be the speakers at different ceremonies, and intellectual people tend to be more liberal and have more common sense.

[ratfrink]

Young America's Foundation is an extremely conservative organisation. It's hardly surprising that they:
1) Define a lot of individuals as 'liberal'
2) Use said definitions to contrive bullshit statistics to use as anti-liberal propaganda

[Rude Louis]

Originally Posted by DirtySanchez

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...vatives-7-to-1

This is why I despise the education system. It's basically a liberal indoctrination camp. This is exactly why Obama wants everyone to go to college. Bulldozing every university in the country wouldn't be a bad thing at all imo.

Confirmed for troll.

[moron]

calling it: dirty sanchez must be a fed-troll

[Tachosomoza]

DirtySanchez needs forum ban.

[Daily]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

DirtySanchez needs forum ban.

Cry more.

[reggie_love]

Yes, it's true. When I came to my liberal arts college for my freshman year they sat me down and told me that there was no God and all property must be shared to each according to his need. Now I'm an alumni worker who tends the coolant flow to the "re-education" furnace.

Give students more credit. Yes there's an undeniable left-wing bias among much of the academic community, but it's not like they're using mind control. I probably got more conservative (at least, in some manners) coming out of college because I learned more effective strategies to think for myself and argue my views clearly and consistently. Disagreeing with a professor, many of whom will be hell-bent on calling you on your inconsistencies, is the ultimate challenge to your critical thinking as it will push you to figure what you believe and how to argue it. Furthermore, 18/19 year old kids are dumb, but not totally mindless. If their beliefs can't hold up to dissent, what good were they in the first place?

If Santorum, who has more degrees than Obama, wants to argue that thinking for yourself and being exposed to people with different views is elitist or somehow harmful, and that we should all just go to trade school instead, isn't he disproving his own point?

I think the most valuable lesson I learned in college was how to see through demagoguery and scare-tactics like this "ZOMG EDUCATION = INDOCTRINATION" that pervade politics.

On a side note, I will say that the only time the school really pressed its politics was when a couple of students tried (and, I think, ultimately succeeded) to start a gun club with the school's funding, and the president and dean of students sat them down and allegedly suggested they might fit better at another school. That was shitty, but student support got it through. Those kids are still attending and go shooting weekly, I think the school pays for ammo.

The point there being, college does not brainwash you. Yes, there are plenty of left-wing people there, and you will find liberal flavors coming through in speakers and lectures and stuff, but you will also learn the tools and strategies that people use to manipulate you and the ability to articulate your own beliefs on a level as strong and well-reasoned as the ones being pushed before you.

In short: anti-education arguments like this are thought up by people who went to a lot of universities and don't want you to do the same. You know why there's overrepresentation of liberal ideas in colleges? Because conservative talking heads trick their followers into staying away. More than anything, college made me allergic to bullshit.

[DirtySanchez]

Originally Posted by moron

calling it: dirty sanchez must be a fed-troll

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

DirtySanchez needs forum ban.

Originally Posted by Rude Louis

Confirmed for troll.

I'm detecting high levels of butthurt. Especially from the nigger.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by Rude Louis

Confirmed for troll.

Whether he's a troll or not, at this point he's so dedicated it's sad either way.

OP is dumb because he represents the unwashed masses in the conservative base. The far right is just as dirty and unwashed as the far left, they're just more proud of it. The farther you get in either direction, the less sane you get; the less balance, the less any progress will be made.

Balance, friends.

[DirtySanchez]

Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

Whether he's a troll or not, at this point he's so dedicated it's sad either way.

OP is dumb because he represents the unwashed masses in the conservative base. The far right is just as dirty and unwashed as the far left, they're just more proud of it. The farther you get in either direction, the less sane you get; the less balance, the less any progress will be made.

Balance, friends.

Extreme problems call for extreme solutions. Fuck your balance.

[Pee Vee Proots, M.D.]

Originally Posted by DirtySanchez

Extreme problems call for extreme solutions. Fuck your balance.

This philosophy will kill our species and destroy the Earth it lives on. Extreme problems call for solutions. Period. Extreme action is more likely to result in extremely bad things happening, even if that action comes hidden in the guise of a solution.

[gadzooks]

Originally Posted by reggie_love

Give students more credit. Yes there's an undeniable left-wing bias among much of the academic community, but it's not like they're using mind control. I probably got more conservative (at least, in some manners) coming out of college because I learned more effective strategies to think for myself and argue my views clearly and consistently. Disagreeing with a professor, many of whom will be hell-bent on calling you on your inconsistencies, is the ultimate challenge to your critical thinking as it will push you to figure what you believe and how to argue it. Furthermore, 18/19 year old kids are dumb, but not totally mindless. If their beliefs can't hold up to dissent, what good were they in the first place?

I came in here to say pretty much something along these lines.

Most academic disciplines, at least the ones I was involved in (Psychology, Philosophy, etc), encourage critical thinking. If they're actually trying to indoctrinate anyone, they're going about it the completely wrong way.