A few comments on this video suggest that it could be a type of plane. That is a very interesting video however, I've never seen a plane from above, much less footage of an alleged UFO. Any word on where this tape might have come from?
Good question. I don't have any facts but I'm pretty sure that the footage was captured by a private citizen on a routine flight somewhere over California (or was it southern Europe?). It might be a plane. That's something that has been on my mind for a while now because a few days ago I stepped outside on a clear afternoon and saw at least four planes coming within less than a mile or so of each other in the sky (actually, I saw the condensation trail behind the planes, not the planes themselves). And several times before that I saw the same thing but the planes were very low overhead. To top it all off, last month a huge military helicopter flew right over my home (low enough to shake it at the very foundation) in the opposite direction of the usual paths that jets take when they're headed to the airport. It's all really dangerous and I'm surprised that there aren't more collisions happening. This stuff didn't happen 10 years ago. I think those damned North Koreans might be fucking with GPS technology.
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A few comments on this video suggest that it could be a type of plane. That is a very interesting video however, I've never seen a plane from above, much less footage of an alleged UFO. Any word on where this tape might have come from?
Looks more like some type of rocket to me than anything else, but I can't see an active weapon being used or tested anywhere that close to commercial airspace. Shit does happen, though.
When it comes out of the last cloud you can clearly see a trail of vapor from the cloud following behind it. Whatever it is, it isn't a camera trick. There's something there, but I'll be damned if I know what it is.
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Looks more like some type of rocket to me than anything else, but I can't see an active weapon being used or tested anywhere that close to commercial airspace. Shit does happen, though.
When it comes out of the last cloud you can clearly see a trail of vapor from the cloud following behind it. Whatever it is, it isn't a camera trick. There's something there, but I'll be damned if I know what it is.
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Gemini 7 bogey[citation needed]
01:43:23 C I have a bogey at 10 o'clock high.
01:43:31 CC This is Houston. Say again, VII.
01:43:34 C Said we have a bogey at 10 o'clock high.
01:43:37 CC Roger.
01:43:50 CC Gemini VII, is that the booster or is that an actual sighting?
01:43:55 C ...
01:43:59 CC Say again, VII.
01:44:01 C Said ... we have several - looks like ... actual sighting.
01:44:05 CC Do you have any more information, estimated distance, or size?
01:44:11 C We also have the booster in sight.
01:44:14 CC Understand you also have the booster in sight.
01:44:17 C ... there are very many - looks like hundreds of little particles going by from the left out about 3 or 4 miles.
01:44:33 CC Understand you have many small particles going by on the left. At what distance?
01:44:40 C ... looks like ...
01:44:48 CC Roger. Understand they're about 3 or 4 miles away?
01:44:52 C They're past now; they're in a polar orbit.
01:44:55 CC Roger. And understand they were about 3 to 4 miles away? 01:45:00 C That's what it appeared like, or farther.
01:45:03 CC Roger.
01:45:04 CC Gemini VII, Houston. Were these particles in addition to the booster and the bogey at 10 o'clock hight
01:45:25 C ...
01:45:28 CO Roger.
01:45:29 C Houston, this is VII.
01:45:33 CC Go ahead.
01:45:34 C I have the booster on my side and the brilliant body of the sun against a black background with billions of particles around it.
01:45:43 CC Roger. What direction is it from you?
01:45:56 C It's about 2 o'clock position.
01:45:51 CC Does that mean it's ahead of you?
01:45:55 C It's - ahead of us at 2 o'clock and it's slowly tumbling.
01:45:59 CC Roger.
[edit] 1991
STS-48 incident Video taken during mission STS-48 of Space Shuttle Discovery while in orbit on September 15, 1991 shows a flash of light and several objects that appear to be flying in an artificial or controlled fashion.
NASA explained the objects as ice particles reacting to engine jets. James Oberg claimed that the flash was from a thruster firing.[1] Philip C. Plait discussed the issue in his book Bad Astronomy, agreeing with NASA.[2]
Dr. Jack Kasher analyzed the movement of the objects in 1996, and found five arguments that the footage could not depict ice particles.[3] However, Lan Fleming found discrepancies in the timestamps in a later version of the video first released by the NASA FOIA office in 1999, leaving some conclusions indeterminate.[4] James Oberg presented a paper at Purdue University that disputed Kasher's five arguments and showed how illumination conditions and thruster firings were capable of producing the sequences in question.[5] He has also posted data and telemetry records that support a prosaic explanation.[6]
Lan Fleming analyzed the movements of the objects and the flash of light that preceded the abrupt change in the course of the objects, and concluded that the exhaust plume from one of the shuttle's reaction control system rockets could not have produced the flash of light.[7][8][9][10]
Mark J. Carlotto came to the conclusion that relatively brief firings of shuttle thruster rockets acting on nearby debris particles could not explain the prolonged periods of acceleration indicated by the curved paths of the unidentified objects.[11][12] However, prolonged periods of smooth acceleration can be explained by atmospheric drag on microscopic ice particles, even though the atmosphere is extremely tenuous at the altitude of the orbiting shuttle.[13] Carlotto also noted that at the end of the event, the shuttle's camera panned down, showing a number of objects moving below the shuttle, and one of the objects appeared to consist of three lobes arranged in a triangular pattern.[14]
[edit] 1996
STS-80 incidents Video taken during mission STS-80 of Space Shuttle Columbia while in orbit as analyzed by Mark J. Carlotto show three different unusual phenomena on December 2, 1996: Two slow moving circular objects; a strange rapidly moving burst of light near the earth's surface; and a number of fast moving objects in space near the shuttle. The first two can be explained as shuttle debris and an unusual atmospheric phenomena, respectively. The fast moving objects in space near the shuttle appear as bright streaks, and analysis of their speeds and directions indicates that they are probably not shuttle debris or meteors.[15]
An analysis done in 1999 by former Mission Control specialist James Oberg concluded that all the objects were nearby sunlit debris.[citation needed] The report was subsequently endorsed by crewmembers Story Musgrave and Tom Jones.[citation needed] Oberg's comments on a video of the event reiterate this viewpoint.[16]
[edit] 2001
STS-102 The Washington Sequence Video broadcast during mission STS-102 of Space Shuttle Discovery while in orbit allegedly recorded on March 19, 2001 by Jeff Challender shows a flash of light and three objects which performed movements which included starting, stopping, accelerating, and making sudden angled turns.[17][18][19]
Lan Fleming compared the timing of the flash of light and a course change of one of the objects to the timing of shuttle thruster firings and concluded that the flash and the movement of the object could not have been caused by thruster firings.[10][20]
I'm guessing ball lightning actually has consciousness yet don't have physical bodies?
If this is true, consciousness can exist on even the most extreme of planets like Jupiter. Unfortunately, these ethereal life forms have no need for material tools, which humans rely on so heavily. So they fuck with us when we are high on LSD and such and turn into machine elves.
I'm guessing ball lightning actually has consciousness yet don't have physical bodies?
If this is true, consciousness can exist on even the most extreme of planets like Jupiter. Unfortunately, these ethereal life forms have no need for material tools, which humans rely on so heavily. So they fuck with us when we are high on LSD and such and turn into machine elves.
That object is traveling at least 2,000-3,000km/h. Most probably a top-secret unmanned military spy vehicle originating from any number of superpowers.
That object is traveling at least 2,000-3,000km/h. Most probably a top-secret unmanned military spy vehicle originating from any number of superpowers.
Military surveillance vehicle, certainly of US origin if it was spotted over California.
I've seen such planes myself, though it seemed to hover along idling rather than than tearing ass through the atmosphere. It was a large black craft that moved really slowly; it had no conventional wings and was silent as far as I could tell from my car.
This occurred at dusk traveling down a road that goes through one of the nation's major air force bases. I saw it for a good 30 seconds.
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That object is traveling at least 2,000-3,000km/h. Most probably a top-secret unmanned military spy vehicle originating from any number of superpowers.
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Funny how that fits exactly with the description of the sightings here in Belgium 20 years ago: triangular shaped, lights at the corners and a larger, pulsating light in the middle of the triangle. Moving at ridiculous speeds. I actually know someone who saw one of those in the south of Belgium. It flew over very quickly. And no, he absolutely isn't batshit insane.
Here's part of the Wiki on it:
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The Belgian UFO wave peaked with the events of the night of 30/31 March 1990. On that night unknown objects were tracked on radar, chased by two Belgian Air Force F-16's, photographed, and were sighted by an estimated 13,500 people on the ground – 2,600 of whom filed written statements describing in detail what they had seen.[1] Following the incident the Belgian air force released a report detailing the events of that night.
At around 23:00 on 30 March the supervisor for the Control Reporting Center (CRC) at Glons received reports that three unusual lights were seen moving towards Thorembais-Gembloux, which lies to the South-East of Brussels. The lights were reported to be brighter than stars, changing color between red, green and yellow, and appeared to be fixed at the vertices of an equilateral triangle. At this point Glons CRC requested the Wavre gendarmerie send a patrol to confirm the sighting.
Approximately 10 minutes later a second set of lights was sighted moving towards the first triangle. By around 23:30 the Wavre gendarmerie had confirmed the initial sightings and Glons CRC had been able to observe the phenomenon on radar. During this time the second set of lights, after some erratic manoeuvres, had also formed themselves into a smaller triangle. After tracking the targets and after receiving a second radar confirmation from the Traffic Center Control at Semmerzake, Glons CRC gave the order to scramble two F-16 fighters from Beauvechain Air Base shortly before midnight. Throughout this time the phenomenon was still clearly visible from the ground, with witnesses describing the whole formation as maintaining their relative positions while moving slowly across the sky. Witnesses also reported two dimmer lights towards the municipality of Eghezee displaying similar erratic movements to the second set of lights.
Over the next hour the two scrambled F-16s attempted nine separate interceptions of the targets. On three occasions they managed to obtain a radar lock for a few seconds but each time the targets changed position and speed so rapidly that the lock was broken. During the first radar lock, the target accelerated from 240 km/h to over 1,770 km/h while changing altitude from 2,700 m to 1,500 m, then up to 3,350 m before descending to almost ground level – the first descent of more than 900 m taking less than two seconds. Similar manoeuvres were observed during both subsequent radar locks. On no occasion were the F-16 pilots able to make visual contact with the targets and at no point, despite the speeds involved, was there any indication of a sonic boom. Moreover, narrator Robert Stack added in an episode of Unsolved Mysteries, the sudden changes in acceleration and deceleration would have been fatal to one or more human pilots.
During this time, ground witnesses broadly corroborate the information obtained by radar. They described seeing the smaller triangle completely disappear from sight at one point, while the larger triangle moved upwards very rapidly as the F-16s flew past. After 00:30 radar contact became much more sporadic and the final confirmed lock took place at 00:40. This final lock was once again broken by an acceleration from around 160 km/h to 1,120 km/h after which the radar of the F-16s and those at Glons and Semmerzake all lost contact. Following several further unconfirmed contacts the F-16s eventually returned to base shortly after 01:00.
The final details of the sighting were provided by the members of the Wavre gendarmerie who had been sent to confirm the original report. They describe four lights now being arranged in a square formation, all making short jerky movements, before gradually losing their luminosity and disappearing in four separate directions at around 01:30.[2]
Even if the said photograph is a hoax, there still thousands of people who have seen this.
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I have seen one of the big black triangles before. It hovered over me for a short while and then flew off very quickly. Totally soundless. Admittedly, I think they are basically altered ball lightning. The British government put out a really interesting report on these things.
What I saw looked exactly like the object in this video:
I'm guessing ball lightning actually has consciousness yet don't have physical bodies?
If this is true, consciousness can exist on even the most extreme of planets like Jupiter. Unfortunately, these ethereal life forms have no need for material tools, which humans rely on so heavily. So they fuck with us when we are high on LSD and such and turn into machine elves.
Yes, this was expounded upon in the declassified documents (Project CONDIGN) that I mentioned in the previous post.. They have a sort of inorganic consciousness.
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This is kinda what I saw, except the triangle was isosceles instead of equilateral.
Giant exhaust port jutting out the shorter end. It was sparse with amber and red running lights on the front and sides. The tips weren't rounded either. And at the front it isn't exactly a triangle; it looked to have 2 rectangular intakes at the front end. I wish I could draw it.
get out of the city, go camping for a week & watch the sky's at night... I've seen lots of "shit"...
I understand that such experiences can be difficult to speak of around here, much is kept quiet. But how to you get past the doubts of physical sense? How does seeing translate to believing?
I have a hard time buying that now, for lack of personal experience. If I ever see a UFO for myself, I'll probably question my perceptions.
Hmm.
How does one get past this dichotomy?
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