Amphetamines and study

[White Jesus]

So I just picked up a bunch of Dexedrine to assist me with the metric shiton of uni work that has landed on top of me. Ive never really used stimulants that much and never for study so I need some pointers.

Im basically wondering what sort of dose I should start off with and how to most effectively use them (taking notes, doing prac questions etc)

Any other tips like amp potentiation and the like would be much appreciated too.

[Jaxxun]

Go with normal prescription doses at first, you're just using them for studying after all.If it were for recreational purposes, of course you'd up the dose.

Try starting off with 20 mg for your studying, and upping the dosage if there's no difference. Afterward, go enjoy whatever it is you're doing while waiting for the drug to kick in. Once it does, just study like you usually would. Quiet location, plenty of light, and little distraction.

Since you've had little experience with stims, 20 mg should be enough to last you through your workload if it's an Extended Release.

[Carbonbased]

Yea 10-20 mg repeat every 4-5 hours.

Remember to eat even though you probably won't feel hungry and leave a 6-7 hour buffer zone between the last dose and when you go to bed so you're not up all night.

Don't let the shit get the best of you, people think since its a pharmaceutical speed isn't a "hard drug", but it is at its core, well, fucking speed.

[Thetakishi]

Yeah I have to agree with the above. Start at 10mg to make sure you arent too sensitive and because its fairly easy to go from "studying" speed to "flying" speed. And that 6-7(longer for XR)hour buffer is really important unless you hate sleeping.

And I would say eat before you take them so you arent forced to choke down food later when your throat refuses to eat the food your body wants. Then just drink some juice if you want something tasty and to rehydrate you, not that youll be dehydrated from a tiny dose of amps.

[White Jesus]

Thanks lads
I started with 10mg but I guess im kinda sensitive because im definitely getting some rec style stimulation. Oh well guess this batch will last me twice as long now.

[Hydroponichronic]

Originally Posted by White Jesus

Thanks lads
I started with 10mg but I guess im kinda sensitive because im definitely getting some rec style stimulation. Oh well guess this batch will last me twice as long now.

I'm not surprised. had I gotten here earlier I might have mentioned that you should always start on the low side with amphetamine. I've known people to benefit from as little as 2.5mg, and others to be able to sleep on 25mg. Lot of individual variability. I've been using the stuff for ages, and the only time I go higher than 10mg is if I'm severely sleep deprived.

[Thetakishi]

Originally Posted by Hydroponichronic

I'm not surprised. had I gotten here earlier I might have mentioned that you should always start on the low side with amphetamine. I've known people to benefit from as little as 2.5mg, and others to be able to sleep on 25mg. Lot of individual variability. I've been using the stuff for ages, and the only time I go higher than 10mg is if I'm severely sleep deprived.

I would have said to start lower but ive never actually known anyone besides high school girls (no offense to anyone who does feel it at low doses obviously.) who felt it that at those doses. But i do have a fine line between useful and recreational between 15 and 20mg. I can still sleep up to 30 too, which is strange considering i have terrible insomnia.

[Jaxxun]

If you enjoy insomnia like I do, take it with a cup of coffee for a boosted effect.

[Thetakishi]

Hah I actually hate my insomnia because not only am I not able to sleep, but I'm extremely exhausted from my anxiety and sleep deprivation.

[White Jesus]

Ive got plenty of weed for the comedown so im not too worried. How long till this stuff clears my system? I dont really want to be doing any exercise with it present.

Hydro, I reckon your right about the sensitivity so im gonna give it a few days and try 5mg.

Do people really use this every day like its prescribed? I mean that sounds like a recipe for burnout

[Thetakishi]

It is definitely a recipe for burnout, but as long as you don't use a high dose or consistently you'll be fine.

I wouldnt worry about exercise being affected by remaining metabolites. Even while you are still on it, as long as you stay hydrated and make sure you dont overwork, you'll be okay.

[Jaxxun]

Exercise with a trivial amount like 10 mg in your system should be fine especially if you're only taking it this once to study, so nothing to worry about.

The main problem people have with amphetamines is in its appetite-suppressing effects. Just make sure you eat and drink normally, even when you might not feel all that hungry or thirsty. Stay fed and hydrated, and you should be fine like Thetakishi said.

[Hydroponichronic]

Originally Posted by White Jesus

How long till this stuff clears my system?

Amphetamine has a half-life of 12 hours, so same time tomorrow you'll still have 2.5mg in circulation.

Originally Posted by White Jesus

Do people really use this every day like its prescribed? I mean that sounds like a recipe for burnout

They adapt to it, receptors downregulate, and dopamine depletes. But since they keep taking it, they never really crash.

Originally Posted by White Jesus

I dont really want to be doing any exercise with it present.

Why not? Until you start pushing 25mg, there's zero risk of cardiac complications. Well, unless you're really old, really fat, or really unlucky.

Originally Posted by White Jesus

Hydro, I reckon your right about the sensitivity so im gonna give it a few days and try 5mg.

Ironically, there's kind of a cherry popping effect (a part of the reason I would have suggested starting low). Now that you've done 10mg, I wouldn't be surprised if you found 5mg to be underwhelming. Still worth starting with that, though.

[Hydroponichronic]

Originally Posted by Thetakishi

I would have said to start lower but ive never actually known anyone besides high school girls who felt it that at those doses.

Hey, I never said placebo doesn't have anything to do with it. Just that placebo can be useful for conserving your drugs (plus placebo amphetamine has a much shorter half life ). Like, if it was just sugar pills, placebo is pretty weak/unpredictable. But when you start with a low (but active) dose, your brain gets a kind of "prompt" on what to expect.

[Thetakishi]

Hah yeah that is true. Reminds me of what happened the first times I took vicodin but not enough to get high back in high school. My brain subconciously found the secret to the universe.

[Swirl Girl Inc.]

It's probably been said already, but start studying BEFORE you pop the amphetamine. Whatever you're doing when it hits is what you'll be doing for the duration, so choose your activities wisely.

[Hydroponichronic]

*le me, working*

"man I'm tired, I should take some amphetamine"

*pops pill*

"while I'm waiting for it to kick in, I should browse zoklet"

*reading*

Originally Posted by Swirl Girl Inc.

It's probably been said already, but start studying BEFORE you pop the amphetamine. Whatever you're doing when it hits is what you'll be doing for the duration, so choose your activities wisely.

FUCK

[White Jesus]

Cheers everyone for the response
After about 8 hours ive made some kick ass notes (that need some serious editing) and then got distracted and went drinking. Great success
Useful little bastard, do I have to worry much about neurotoxicity occurring if I use 5 to 15mg once every few days?

Now I'm gonna smoke weed till I passout

[Hydroponichronic]

Originally Posted by White Jesus

Useful little bastard

Truth. Also, would make a funny user title.

Originally Posted by White Jesus

Do I have to worry much about neurotoxicity occurring if I use 5 to 15mg once every few days?

Depends on what you mean by neurotoxicity and once every few days. Technically you won't get acute neurotoxicity until you push megadoses (a la typical meth addict). But any amphetamine use will create some neuroadaptive changes. At the very least it will cause minor dopamine depletion (though this is easily countered by getting your daily recommended value of protein and B vitamins). It's just so easy to start taking the stuff regularly, and when you do that you start getting tolerance and putting increased wear on brain dopamine systems. You might not ever notice them, (heck, they might be as small as 1% over 20 years) but it strikes me that you want to minimize wear on the brain if at all possible.

[tomjonesa22]

All at once in one shot Guaranteed to make you a robot *

[White Jesus]

Originally Posted by Hydroponichronic

Truth. Also, would make a funny user title.

Depends on what you mean by neurotoxicity and once every few days. Technically you won't get acute neurotoxicity until you push megadoses (a la typical meth addict). But any amphetamine use will create some neuroadaptive changes. At the very least it will cause minor dopamine depletion (though this is easily countered by getting your daily recommended value of protein and B vitamins). It's just so easy to start taking the stuff regularly, and when you do that you start getting tolerance and putting increased wear on brain dopamine systems. You might not ever notice them, (heck, they might be as small as 1% over 20 years) but it strikes me that you want to minimize wear on the brain if at all possible.

Unfortunately for me its my greatest asset

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by Swirl Girl Inc.

It's probably been said already, but start studying BEFORE you pop the amphetamine. Whatever you're doing when it hits is what you'll be doing for the duration, so choose your activities wisely.

That. It sucks to have anticipated a productive amphetamine session only to find out you have spent the last 6 hours reading wikipedia articles detailing the history and biography of every character in the Simpson's.

[Jaxxun]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

That. It sucks to have anticipated a productive amphetamine session only to find out you have spent the last 6 hours reading wikipedia articles detailing the history and biography of every character in the Simpson's.

I find it depends on willpower and study habits. If you know you're suppose to be studying and can get your train of thought onto actually doing your work, then that's what you'll be concentrated on.

Personally, I always browse the internet for about 30-45 minutes after I take Adderall, listening to some music. When I notice myself enjoying the music a little more than usual, I hit the books.

I think of it as a transition into doing hours of work, so I reward myself a little beforehand. More of a personal preference, really.

[curioushat]

Make sure you eat and drink water and take vitamins. You're going to notice that you can go for hours and hours without eating or drinking. When you come down, it will be a nightmare.

[H a r o l d]

Have any of you who have experience with pharma amps tried 2-FMA or 2-FA? It seems that they are quite comparable, SWIM found 2-FMA to be a fantastic focus aid, 4-6 hour duration with basically no negative effects from 50mg parachuted.

[Something_clevar]

Originally Posted by H a r o l d

Have any of you who have experience with pharma amps tried 2-FMA or 2-FA? It seems that they are quite comparable, SWIM found 2-FMA to be a fantastic focus aid, 4-6 hour duration with basically no negative effects from 50mg parachuted.

I think if I ever got my hands on any kind of experimental stim, its use would go towards partying or jerking my dick raw. There's such a dichotomy between work and play in my mind that I can only use stims productively if I take them as prescribed by a physician.

To answer your question, though... nope! I've never tried anything that didn't come in a labeled pill bottle (well, besides ecstasy). Can't even fathom how you people get your hands on all this awesome shit - probably a product of growing up rich and coddled.

[H a r o l d]

Originally Posted by Something_clevar

I think if I ever got my hands on any kind of experimental stim, its use would go towards partying or jerking my dick raw. There's such a dichotomy between work and play in my mind that I can only use stims productively if I take them as prescribed by a physician.

To answer your question, though... nope! I've never tried anything that didn't come in a labeled pill bottle (well, besides ecstasy). Can't even fathom how you people get your hands on all this awesome shit - probably a product of growing up rich and coddled.

You do realize we're on the internet right now, right?