49 headless bodies dumped on north Mexico highway

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MONTERREY, Mexico (AP) — Forty-nine bodies with their heads, hands and feet hacked off were found Sunday dumped on a northern Mexico highway leading to the Texas border in what appeared to be the latest carnage in an escalating war between Mexico's two dominant drug cartels.

Local and federal authorities discovered the bodies before dawn scattered in a pool of blood at the entrance to the town of San Juan, on a highway leading from the metropolis of Monterrey to the border city of Reynosa. A white stone arch welcoming visitors was spray-painted with black letters: "100% Zeta."

Nuevo Leon state security spokesman Jorge Domene said at a news conference that the 43 men and six women would be hard to identify because of the lack of heads, hands and feet. The bodies were being taken to a Monterrey auditorium for DNA tests.

The victims could have been killed as long as two days ago at another location, then transported to San Juan, a town in the municipality of Cadereyta, about 105 miles (175 kilometers) west-southwest of McAllen, Texas, and 75 miles (125 kilometers) southwest of the Roma, Texas, border crossing, state Attorney General Adrian de la Garza said.

Only one couple looking for their missing daughter visited the morgue in Monterrey where autopsies were being performed on the mutilated bodies Sunday, a state police investigator said.

The officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case, said none of the six female bodies matched the missing daughter's description. He said some of the bodies were badly decomposed and some had their whole arms or lower legs missing.

De la Garza said he did not rule out the possibility that the victims were U.S.-bound migrants.

But it seemed more likely that the killings were the latest salvo in a gruesome game of tit-for-tat in fighting among brutal drug gangs.

"This is the most definitive of all the cartel wars," said Raul Benitez Manaut, a security expert at Mexico's National Autonomous University.

Mass body dumpings have increased around Mexico the last six months as the fearsome Zetas gang goes head to head with the powerful Sinaloa Cartel, led by fugitive drug lord Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, and its allies.

Under President Felipe Calderon's nearly six-year assault on organized crime, the two cartels have become the largest in the country and are battling over strategic transport routes and territory, including along the northern border with the U.S. and in the Gulf coast state of Veracruz.

In less than a month, the mutilated bodies of 14 men were left in a van in downtown Nuevo Laredo, 23 people were found hanged or decapitated in the same border city and 18 dismembered bodied were left near Mexico's second-largest city, Guadalajara. Nuevo Laredo, like Monterrey, is considered Zeta territory, while Guadalajara has long been controlled by gangs loyal to Sinaloa.

The Zetas are a transient gang without real territory or a secure stream of income, unlike Sinaloa with its lucrative cocaine trade and control of smuggling routes and territory, Benitez said. But the Zetas are heavily armed while Sinaloa has a weak enforcement arm, he said. The Zetas, founded by deserters from Mexico's elite special forces, started out as assassins for the Gulf Cartel before those two gangs had a bloody split in early 2010.

The government's success in killing or arresting cartel leaders has fractured some of the big gangs into weaker, quarreling bands that in many cases are lining up with either the Zetas or Sinaloa. At least one of the two cartels is present in nearly all of Mexico's 32 states.

A year ago this month, more than two dozen people — most of them Zetas — were killed when they tried to infiltrate the Sinaloa's territory in the Pacific Coast state of Nayarit.

But their war started in earnest last fall in Veracruz, a strategic smuggling state with a giant gulf port.

A drug gang allied with Sinaloa left 35 bodies on a main boulevard in the city of Veracruz in September, and police found 32 other bodies, apparently killed by the same gang, a few days after that. The goal apparently was to take over territory that had been dominated by the Zetas.

Twenty-six bodies were found in November in Guadalajara, another territory being disputed by the Zetas and Sinaloa.

Drug violence has killed more than 47,500 people since Calderon launched a stepped-up offensive when he took office in December 2006.

Mexico is now in the midst of presidential race to replace Calderon, who by law can't run for re-election. Drug violence seems to be escalating, but none of the major candidates, Enrique Pena Nieto, Josefina Vazquez Mota or Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, has referred to the body dumpings directly. All three say they will stop the violence and make Mexico a more secure place, but offer few details on how their plans would differ from Calderon's.

Benitez said the wave of violence has nothing to do with the presidential election.

"It has the dynamic of a war between cartels," he said.

Associated Press writer Galia Garcia-Palafox in Mexico City contributed to this report.

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Damn. That's some over the top, grisly-ass, stone cold shit.

[Tachosomoza]

I just saw this on the news. They make American gangs look like bankers.

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yeah, the shit going on down there is pretty much unspeakably evil...plain old savagery

[yawanur]

Originally Posted by Vizier

The real number is 68, actually.

What's the state of the central government and stopping gang violence? Sounds like the cartel's pretty much have mexico by the balls.

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Originally Posted by yawanur

What's the state of the central government and stopping gang violence? Sounds like the cartel's pretty much have mexico by the balls.

the cartel owns the government, through money or intimidation. Plata O Plomo.

[Iehovah]

Stuff like this makes me wonder just what would happen down there if we stopped siphoning off their best, brightest and most ambitious. It may be assholish, but yeah, I'm talking about illegal immigration. Think about it - these are the people that want better things for their family, they are the motivated ones that can and will work long hard hours in bitch conditions to try and make a better life, and find a way to pull it off.

What would happen if they were forced to deal with the shit in their own country?

I'm betting that shit would come to a brutal end, because it's nothing more than jumped up tyranny, and every "peasant" population has a breaking point. Rape enough daughters and decapitate enough sons and eventually someone will get smart, get a gun and put a bullet in your face because they have nothing left to lose.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Kipohippo

This. Could you imagine them trying to take territory up north? I could see it happening.

Those "minuteman" rednecks would be sent cowering back to the hills. I guess that would be a plus. I'd like to see them get their hands on Sheriff Arpaio.

[Ethan]

Drug violence has killed more than 47,500 people since Calderon launched a stepped-up offensive when he took office in December 2006.

In Central America, drugs have War on you!

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

Those "minuteman" rednecks would be sent cowering back to the hills. I guess that would be a plus. I'd like to see them get their hands on Sheriff Arpaio.

You have a problem with Arpaio, but none with the cartels? The hypocrisy (and stupidity) becomes clearer with every post.

You do realize that if such an invasion were allowed to happen, the repercussions would be crippling to your cause, and even worse if they were successful, because they'd have proven that a nation run by acknowledged thugs and criminals can successfully invade and defeat the United States on its own soil.

Quite frankly, in that scheme of things, you would not be a member of the ruling class. Your bitch ass would be cowering in a hut like the rest of the so-called peasants.

Keep up the fantasizing; it's all you have.

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So anyways...back on topic, what do you think was the involvement level of the victims? I'm sure most of them had some involvement with a rival cartel, but how much involvement?

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Kipohippo

Internet = srs business

No.

Railing on Tachosodomite = srs bsns

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Iehovah

No.

Railing on Tachosodomite = srs bsns

When are you going to shut up and suck my schlong? Just so you know, I like it when you nibble on it.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

When are you going to shut up and suck my schlong? Just so you know, I like it when you nibble on it.

Quite the witty repartee' there, son. Maybe you ought to throw a few 'yo mommas' in with that 'ur gay'.

So, back to the subject at hand. How's the hypocrisy treating ya? Decapitation sure is a step up from racial profiling, ain't it?

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Kipohippo

Hard to say, but I'm guessing its a wide array of different people.

Rival gang members, citizens, their own guys, cops, who knows?

I recall a Mexican guy that I worked with telling me that cartel violence is largely internal, much like old school mob violence. You only get hurt intentionally if you're in the scene. Which makes sense, it's counterproductive and makes absolutely no sense to run around haplessly slaughtering old men, women, working folks and children. There's collateral damage, but nobody intentionally targets unconnected innocents.

[Iehovah]

Originally Posted by Tachosomoza

There's collateral damage, but nobody intentionally targets unconnected innocents.

I doubt your definition of "unconnected" matches theirs.

[yawanur]

Originally Posted by Vizier

123

ever had to pay someone to leave you alone?

[Daily]

tame

[ShyStar]

Originally Posted by yawanur

What's the state of the central government and stopping gang violence? Sounds like the cartel's pretty much have mexico by the balls.

Part of the OP answers this and the Vizier touches on it some more...

"The Zetas, founded by deserters from Mexico's elite special forces, started out as assassins for the Gulf Cartel before those two gangs had a bloody split in early 2010."

The founding members are specially trained.

Sounds like everyone is either corrupt or scared for their life and the lives of the people they care about into seeing things the way of the cartels. I don't blame them.

[Cory]

Forty-nine headless bodies discovered in Mexico.....

Just in-case anyone thought securing the border was somehow a bad thing. But really, we need the temporary militarize the border and establish a genuine border fence that it just as deep as it is tall.

[bortmackie]

building a wall isn't going to do shit. It's our countrys insatiable desire to get fucked up that pays these cartels and keeps them in power. And if you manage to cut out mexico, someone else will always take their place. The problem is us, not them. As long as people are willing to pay money for drugs, the dealers and producers will find a way to provide their product.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Vizier

No, you need to either legalize drugs or stop being so fucking stoned and junkies all the time. Military ain't gonna do shit; around 80% of the weapons the cartel use come from USA anyway and everyone knows this.

Heroin and cocaine are not going to be legal anytime soon. I really hope you don't think that the cartels make most of their money of pot. The US military has a massive qualitative edge over militia-quality cartel thugs. You are delusional if you really think that the presence of the military on the border in force "ain't gonna do shit".

[Oct]

Stop duplicating threads dumb ass!

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Originally Posted by Octovia

Stop duplicating threads dumb ass!

My thread: 5-13
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showpost.p...28&postcount=1

Your thread: 5-14
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showpost.p...76&postcount=1

Choke on a dick and learn to post in the correct forum...

[sexually vulnerable CPR dummy]

Because of this, anyone who snorts a line of coke or smoke pot YOU'VE GOT BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS

Murderers..