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05-07-2012, 09:04 PM
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Slightly Grander Duke
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Watching my friends die
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Last edited by Struwwelpeter; 09-01-2012 at 07:42 AM.
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05-07-2012, 09:12 PM
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Peasant
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Re: Watching my friends die
Nice post. I feel this way alot.
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05-07-2012, 09:12 PM
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Archduke
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Re: Watching my friends die
How are you dead if you're still alive.
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05-07-2012, 09:15 PM
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Peasant
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Re: Watching my friends die
The person you USE to be is dead. As in u don't think or act the same as u use to
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05-07-2012, 09:21 PM
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Child of The Fence
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Re: Watching my friends die
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirana
How are you dead if you're still alive.
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^This.
Changing =/= Dying
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05-07-2012, 09:22 PM
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Broodingly Rational
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Re: Watching my friends die
Some people get better with age, but most seem to decline. Going back to visit old friends after a few years can always be weird.
At any given point we are never static. At every single point in life our experiences alter the molecular structure of our brains. In the most literal sense our present consciousness is different then it was milliseconds ago.
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05-07-2012, 09:24 PM
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Duke
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Re: Watching my friends die
Suicide is the answer.
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05-07-2012, 09:25 PM
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Slightly Grander Duke
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Re: Watching my friends die
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Originally Posted by HampTheToker
^This.
Changing =/= Dying
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It depends what context you use the word death in, obviously. Death can mean the end of the biological functioning of an organism, or it can mean the end or change of something immaterial or inanimate, e.g, the death of my ego, my career is dead, etc.
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05-07-2012, 09:26 PM
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Duke
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05-07-2012, 09:31 PM
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Duke
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Re: Watching my friends die
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Originally Posted by Daily
It depends what context you use the word death in, obviously. Death can mean the end of the biological functioning of an organism, or it can mean the end or change of something immaterial or inanimate, e.g, the death of my ego, my career is dead, etc.
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Mr obvious.
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05-07-2012, 09:36 PM
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Slightly Grander Duke
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Re: Watching my friends die
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Mr obvious.
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You're chubby.
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05-07-2012, 09:41 PM
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Marquis
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Re: Watching my friends die
Yeah you guys are pretty dumb if you didn't understand the original post from the get go.
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05-07-2012, 09:49 PM
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Marquis
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Re: Watching my friends die
Replace "five years" with "every second" and you might have gotten some sort of philosophical principle correct.
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05-07-2012, 09:50 PM
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Duke
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Re: Watching my friends die
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You're chubby.
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ooo that hurts deep.
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05-07-2012, 10:06 PM
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A Light Shining in Darkness
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Re: Watching my friends die
Quote:
Originally Posted by HampTheToker
^This.
Changing =/= Dying
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Death = Change
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05-08-2012, 02:53 AM
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Killed all the villagers.
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Re: Watching my friends die
When I die, when I am fully grown, dump it all in the Los Angeles river with the cars and the skulls.
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05-08-2012, 03:11 AM
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Marquis
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Re: Watching my friends die
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Originally Posted by Kipohippo
Eh.
I agree with change =/= death
You are not dying. You are still there, barely changed from seconds ago. What we are doing is progressing forward. Not positively or negatively. Just, forward.
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Thats not true. If you have an apple, and you cut out half of it then it is has less substance than before. You have negatively subtracted from it. If you take a person and subtract their humanity, then you are left with something less substantial.
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05-08-2012, 03:12 AM
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Killed all the villagers.
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Re: Watching my friends die
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Originally Posted by Kipohippo
You are not dying. You are still there, barely changed from seconds ago. What we are doing is progressing forward.
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I disagree. Agonal mortem is a process that occurs before biological death. AM can be a second or it can be a very slow process. With that said, I believe the second the infant body is fully developed is when we see the decline to the slow journey of decay. Pretty sure the human skeleton is usually completely at age twenty-two.
However, I do agree with you on it not being positive or negative.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey
It is hard enough that I have to mourn the death of everyone and everything that I used to enjoy, but I also find myself very troubled by seeing what they have become. They have been degraded by this world, to which they are forever condemned. Are there any innocents left out there? Surely one of them will read this...
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If you are unhappy with how your friends turned out then they have failed you.
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05-08-2012, 03:12 AM
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Baron
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Re: Watching my friends die
I no how you feel man. my friends from high school in ny died by drugs a couple of em it sucks but what are u gonna do
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05-08-2012, 03:16 AM
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Igor Deckman
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Re: Watching my friends die
Don't worry, OP. I'm the only person who exists in all planes of time. And do you know how I can pull this off?
Because I change every day. Every day I have a new personality, with different ideas and values. If you meet me in five years, I could be a cunt with a family, but the next day I'll decide that I want to be a black person, leave my family, and move into a dumpter. I don't "grow" or "devolve" - I just morph into something completely different.
I'm always going to be different. It's all new. Everything I do is brand new. And that, my friend, is how I stay the same.
There are other types of folks who don't change either. Nutjobs (usually homeless - but you can find them in your local asylum).
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05-08-2012, 04:37 AM
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Philosopher King
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Re: Watching my friends die
Yes, change is natural.
The argument here seems to be whether our human essence is always changing over time, or whether some internal core remains consistent. Does man have a basic and fundamental nature which serves as the structure for later development? Clearly if he does, it can be abandoned or gone against, but can nature ever change?
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