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The quality of the Heroin where I live have gone down by like 66%.



Don't tell me it's tolerance, you can see the difference in the batch, it's usually off-white, now its much more brown.

Every one has got it too, I tried copping off different people and got the same thing in a different bag.


I'm not looking for advice, just venting because it makes me pissy.
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You'd be pissy too!

I used nod my face off with just one bag, now I'll need like 3.

Might as well cop some fucking 30s.
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You'd be pissy too!

I used nod my face off with just one bag, now I'll need like 3.

Might as well cop some fucking 30s.
Yeah but I wouldn't be complaining about it on zoklet, I would be knocking niggas out. Go rob some niggas or something.
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Yeah but I wouldn't be complaining about it on zoklet, I would be knocking niggas out. Go rob some niggas or something.
Great idea lets go rob some thugged out heroin dealers.
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lol,it's tolerance.
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lol,it's tolerance.
It's totally not tolerance.

If you could see it, you would see it's a new batch.

It really pisses me of because the last batch was by far the best dope I ever did.

The girl I cop from sometimes had some bags that seem to be of the old batch but I haven't seen her out.

How do they not lose all their customers with a 50-66% loss in quality, I don't know, I guess Kensington is just too far for a junkie to walk?

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The girl I cop from sometimes have some "Cum Back" bags that seem to be of the old batch but I haven't seen her out.
Is she sexy?
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Default Re: Quality of H has gone down.

It's been pretty shitty in my area lately, too. Not even much point in using it, i had a couple of bags on saturday (huge bags, pure white powder, really clumpy) and the rush was pretty decent, nice clear brown liquid when cooked but the high only lasted something like an hour and a half, needless to say, i was pretty pissed off.

Stuff before that was fucking amazing, though, i nearly OD'd from 2/3rds of a bag.
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If you think redbones with tons of tattoos are sexy(and I do) then yes, yes she is.
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Alot of time's it totally depend's on if your hookup use's their product to get high or not, as i'm sure you know already. We only get tar here and I know a couple dealer's who are strung out as fuck and every time I call for like just 1 $20 bag he's like, "man you gotta get more money than that up call me back".

Yet if I call the guy who just goes to the methadone clinic and doesn't use his own product at all, it's always very consistent size and quality. But i've only ever saw tar and hardly ever heard of any powder dope. I'm always weary when someone tries to sell me the powder because I know they are fiend's and all they would have to do is dump some diphenhydramine in after they steal half my shit.

But this shit is so good usually, the good dealer's make like 10 bag's out of a gram which if you know math is .1 a bag which is pretty good size for my area. And I have a decent tolerance to methadone and dope and just 1 get's me nodding hard.
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The people I buy from are G's, they don't use drugs, I don't think they even smoke green.
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The people I buy from are G's, they don't use drugs, I don't think they even smoke green.
Well if they are G's my bet is that they get their dope and cut it with something or make bag's so damn small to make as much money as possible which is what most "black people" try to do, around here anyway's. Even if they don't do any drug's. Don't mean to offend or anything just my opinion.
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Alot of time's it totally depend's on if your hookup use's their product to get high or not, as i'm sure you know already. We only get tar here and I know a couple dealer's who are strung out as fuck and every time I call for like just 1 $20 bag he's like, "man you gotta get more money than that up call me back".

Yet if I call the guy who just goes to the methadone clinic and doesn't use his own product at all, it's always very consistent size and quality. But i've only ever saw tar and hardly ever heard of any powder dope. I'm always weary when someone tries to sell me the powder because I know they are fiend's and all they would have to do is dump some diphenhydramine in after they steal half my shit.

But this shit is so good usually, the good dealer's make like 10 bag's out of a gram which if you know math is .1 a bag which is pretty good size for my area. And I have a decent tolerance to methadone and dope and just 1 get's me nodding hard.
lol sounds like u been hittin me up.
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Well if they are G's my bet is that they get their dope and cut it with something or make bag's so damn small to make as much money as possible which is what most "black people" try to do, around here anyway's. Even if they don't do any drug's. Don't mean to offend or anything just my opinion.
These guys are straight business. While I don't doubt they step on their product I'm fairly sure they work on the "quota" system. They just got a new (shitty) batch and are just trying to make quota.

I definitely don't feel as if they as trying to fuck me because I'm white in the hood or anything like that. My gf said that they are probably giving me the shitty bags because I don't cop enough. I get like 2-3 bags a week max, sometimes I binge and will cop 2 bags a day for 2 weeks straight but that's rather rare. It's probable but she knows fuck all about drugs and today I got a junkie to go score some for me.

The bag he got had a different wax paper, blue not white. A different stamp,
a picture of a check mark instead of "PainKiller". He got it off the guys on the other side of the road, that what it tells me. Still the same brown bullshit.

There is this one chick I score some sometimes, after I got the first bag of brown bullshit, I copped some of her with a different stamp I never seen, "Cum Back".

It was the same white dope I had been getting in the "PainKiller" bags and a little fatter.

Let us hope when I go back tomorrow she's out and about. It's always nice to see a sexy bitch in the hood anyway, even if she serves me shitty brown dope.
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they're not G's... they're pieces of shits.
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next time tell them you're gonna pay less because the quality is shit. make sure you're forceful, rude, and borderline offensive about it otherwise they won't take you seriously. tell them something like, "yeah i'm not paying full price for your stepped on drugs, faggot, I'm paying this much and you're fucking lucky."


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next time tell them you're gonna pay less because the quality is shit. make sure you're forceful, rude, and borderline offensive about it otherwise they won't take you seriously. tell them something like, "yeah i'm not paying full price for your stepped on drugs, faggot, I'm paying this much and you're fucking lucky."


usually works.
I've did this back home, esp in the projects where they sell nick sacks that sit on .7. "Put more meat in your tacos, I'll either pay for $3 a bag or I'll find someone else." And it worked. (from then on they gave me 3 for 10)

But I wouldn't fuck with these guys. I enjoy fucking with people and I'm definitely not intimidated, but I can see being told to fuck off back to whitey land if I don't like their dope. There are plenty of junkies who WILL pay $10 a bag for the shit.

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The quality of the Heroin where I live have gone down by like 66%.



Don't tell me it's tolerance, you can see the difference in the batch, it's usually off-white, now its much more brown.

Every one has got it too, I tried copping off different people and got the same thing in a different bag.


I'm not looking for advice, just venting because it makes me pissy.
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These guys are straight business. While I don't doubt they step on their product I'm fairly sure they work on the "quota" system. They just got a new (shitty) batch and are just trying to make quota.

I definitely don't feel as if they as trying to fuck me because I'm white in the hood or anything like that. My gf said that they are probably giving me the shitty bags because I don't cop enough. I get like 2-3 bags a week max, sometimes I binge and will cop 2 bags a day for 2 weeks straight but that's rather rare. It's probable but she knows fuck all about drugs and today I got a junkie to go score some for me.

The bag he got had a different wax paper, blue not white. A different stamp,
a picture of a check mark instead of "PainKiller". He got it off the guys on the other side of the road, that what it tells me. Still the same brown bullshit.

There is this one chick I score some sometimes, after I got the first bag of brown bullshit, I copped some of her with a different stamp I never seen, "Cum Back".

It was the same white dope I had been getting in the "PainKiller" bags and a little fatter.

Let us hope when I go back tomorrow she's out and about. It's always nice to see a sexy bitch in the hood anyway, even if she serves me shitty brown dope.

As someone that picked up pretty good weight for several years, and has tried people all over LA, Ill telly ou that unless you talk to someone who goes out of their way to pick up from elsewhere than locally, youre going to be getting the same stuff.

I know at least 6 or 7 mid level guys that push pieces (25 grams) and up, and only one guy that can handle half kilos and up. Go figure....when one person has a certain kid- they all have the same shit. Thats because as soon as the main cartel go-through calls Sinaloa and tells them they need more, they have someone start trucking the next shipment from Panama (although its "Mexican" tar, its Colombian grown). They bring a gigantic log of the stuff into Los Angeles that'll last a month or so, and its broken up into half keys and given to the headmen. The middle guys usually pick up like 3 or 4 pieces every day to sell to their customers (low level dealers), so they just take whetever is available. If they dont use, they have nbo reason to care about quality- its about the money for them. So whatever they have, theyre gonna sell it until its gone. Most of the cutting is done a little bit before it leaves the production site, and then if it passes through the same hands time and time again, it normally isn't touched until it reaches the hands of the dealer who sells bags and balloons and such. If you can even move up ONE rung in the ladder, I guarantee you that your shit will be exponentially better. Cause the middle guys are selling oz and pieces at 50-100 bucks profit per...they just want to keep it moving as quick as possible, and have reason to keep people happy. The lower level guys know that their customers will be coming back no matter what, and so theyll skimp the bags and cut them with powdered sugar and whatnot, to make each extra dollar.

In my experience, the batches rotate every month or so, but then again thats here. If you want to get the best, and youre not yet addicted, save up some money. Try to work your way up, and then tell the guy that you'll buy 5g or something, but that it needs to be the fire shit, and youre gonna need to sample it first. 5g might not even be enough, but its worth a shot. If you can get something like that , other people will want it to, and you can get high for free and make some money on the side.
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Dude if I got 5g of fire dope they'd get to add me to list of people who died on tinychat.

I only do a relatively small amount of heroin.

Usually I buy 2 bags, break one open on a plate, chop it up fine with a razor then make 2-3 lines depending on how good it is.

I'll snort the first line and if need I'll do the second, then when I start coming down I'll do the third, then at night 10pmish I'll brake open the second and snort all I can before I nod out for the night whilst chain smoking American Spirits.

Well worth $20 IMO.

With this shit I pour out one bag and snort it and I hardly feel shit from the whole bag.

Several people saw me snort a whole bag of the last batch, and then I passed out on my dog, woke up, started sweating like FUBI then I had to laid still for like an hour and a half.

I snorted a bag of this shit, bitched about it for an hour, smoked a cig, a butt, smoked a joint with a neighbor, rolled cig with tobacco he gave me, then sit and talk semi-buzzed with my gf for 2-3 hours.

I would have snorted another bag if I had it. Half the time I have to psyche myself up to snort more than half a bag.

It just makes me sad and pisses me off, I really needed to vent. I wouldn't have even made that walk for a FREE bag of that dope AND I was out $10.

I'm fairly certain is was cut with Folder's Crystals. I fucking snorted Folder's Crystals man.

God Damnit dope should be fucking fire all the time. Fucking Afghanistan was pretty much plowed over so the CIA could produce heroin there. That's why they shut down the pain clinics, to provide a market. Hell it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't get started for the sole purpose of getting people addicted to opiates, so they'd sell more.

I stopped doing opiates for over 6 months because I refuse to pay $20+ for a 30mg roxi, and they have no good dope where I am from. I move up here to North Philly, I'm in heaven, With-in walking distance of a block to cop from.
Really fire dope too. Now that that's gone, even if it's for a month it really pisses me off. Makes me thankful that I don't have an addiction.
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Stop buying till it gets good again, people will see a drop in sales and will act accordingly.
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Same when it's good, they add cut accordingly. Next batch should be good.
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The quality of the Heroin where I live have gone down by like 66%.



Don't tell me it's tolerance, you can see the difference in the batch, it's usually off-white, now its much more brown.

Every one has got it too, I tried copping off different people and got the same thing in a different bag.


I'm not looking for advice, just venting because it makes me pissy.
I'm sure you're still throwing all the money you have at it though. Suite junkie rant bro.
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I've did this back home, esp in the projects where they sell nick sacks that sit on .7. "Put more meat in your tacos, I'll either pay for $3 a bag or I'll find someone else." And it worked. (from then on they gave me 3 for 10)

But I wouldn't fuck with these guys. I enjoy fucking with people and I'm definitely not intimidated, but I can see being told to fuck off back to whitey land if I don't like their dope. There are plenty of junkies who WILL pay $10 a bag for the shit.
Yeah of course there are plenty of junkie's who will pay 10 for a shitty bag that will take you at least 3 to feel it, but the thing is as soon as the customer find's a new dealer that has the good stuff they'll ALWAYS call the better guy first so don't expect repeat customer's.

I know these people who would sell the fattest $20's of tar and there would always be like 10 people at their house and 10 people calling on the phone before they even got back with their shit. But of course they are about to go to prison now.
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Yeah of course there are plenty of junkie's who will pay 10 for a shitty bag that will take you at least 3 to feel it, but the thing is as soon as the customer find's a new dealer that has the good stuff they'll ALWAYS call the better guy first so don't expect repeat customer's.
First to clarify I cop off the block. I'd rather do that, than have a record of me calling a trap phone. Today I went back to buy 2 more if I could find some fire. The girl I was talking about was out, some other dude tried to wave me over but of course I go to her. I ask her what was up with the nasty brown dope that's going around. She says not to worry about it, just had me. I then proceed to tell her about the bag yesterday and how it REALLY sucked. She said next time bring that shit back, if they give me a problem just walk off and find her and she'd exchange it for a bag of her shit and then she'd go take care of them. We walk off to meet up else where and when we duck off to exchange money for product she gives me the second bag, gratis.

So, for all you people saying I sound like a bitch, my way of doing business is obviously superior to taking my ass out there trying to rob a gang of heroin dealing thugs. If you have to use force on your drug dealer, you should find a new one before they shoot you or you shoot them.

Shit is straight business. You people who talk down about black people need to meet some of the scheming ass white people out there. Some ones skin color doesn't effect how someone conducts business. These guys are the only people I've ever bought dope from here in philly. Out of all the dope I've copped on that block, I've only gotten 2 bags that weren't extremely good. Where I come from a bag of dope is $30 and its worse than the bag I was bitching about. That's why everyone does percs down South. Outside of ATL you can't find dope and when you do it's up to $40 a bag and stomped more than black faggot at a boot party.
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Yeah of course there are white people who scheme just as bad. But if you have to cop off the block most of the time, why haven't you asked for any of the "good" connect's for their phone number's? And when someone does me wrong I just chalk it up as a lesson learned and go to better people even if it mean's i have to wait.

Just seem's like to me someone who has to sell off the corner, there is probably a reason. Anyone who has good on the regular should have no problem getting their phone number out and just having people call them. Around here I don't think I would ever trust buying from a "neighborhood" or off the block because it's probably someone selling a pinch of instant coffee to someone they know they'll most likely never see again so they can go get themselve's a fix. But congrat's on your succesfull cop off the block.
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So, for all you people saying I sound like a bitch, my way of doing business is obviously superior to taking my ass out there trying to rob a gang of heroin dealing thugs. If you have to use force on your drug dealer, you should find a new one before they shoot you or you shoot them.

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Honestly I was just drunk and playing around, don't worry you're cool.
Yeah he must be doing or know something I don't because honestly around these part's all the H is sold in VERY tight knit circle's. I've never met or even heard of anyone selling H on the street, only crack cocaine. And yes I have tried to find H on the street's when my people weren't right at the time and all that could be found was some fucking crack which is very undesireable when i'm in WD.
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Yeah he must be doing or know something I don't because honestly around these part's all the H is sold in VERY tight knit circle's. I've never met or even heard of anyone selling H on the street, only crack cocaine. And yes I have tried to find H on the street's when my people weren't right at the time and all that could be found was some fucking crack which is very undesireable when i'm in WD.
Just hit up a methadone clinic, where do you live?
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Yeah he must be doing or know something I don't because honestly around these part's all the H is sold in VERY tight knit circle's. I've never met or even heard of anyone selling H on the street.
Look at my location, I'm in Northeast Philadelphia.
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Just hit up a methadone clinic, where do you live?
Man i've been in the clinic twice in my life and ended up having to drop out of it cold turkey both time's due to other circumstance's. So basiclly right now i'm just "chipping" I guess, although if I could I would do a gram a day probably. It's just that without a job and everything I can only do it a few time's a week usually.

I was just saying i've never been able to just find it on the corner, but I do have reliable hookups. And when I can't afford a bag I got a methadone hookup for .50 cent's per mg. So that's always there to back me up which is nice.
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Lulz. Railing half an OC80 gives me a good buzz. I just did 1/4 of a point of this slightly off white powder and I'm feeling it coming on strong.
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Yeah if yopure ever having trouble copping, just hit up a done clinic or needle exchange, n offer whoever it is like 10 bucks to get some shit for you UNTOUCHED, or buy them a half or something to introduce you to their connect. Most of them are broke as shit n will jump at any opportunity to make a few bucks.
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