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I do not believe this. Obviously he would never leave his wife for me, unless things went really badly (which they might, they are in counseling after-all), but I can tell he sincerely cares about me. When I am ill he sends me cards and sometimes visits me, and sometimes he even buys me lingerie and alcohol. I think if I were to die, he would be devastated. Just because we don't spend much time doing normal "relationship things" does not mean we are in a relationship. I am no gold-digger, but I bet if I asked him for money to pay my rent (which I would never do) he would happily oblige.
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He buys you alcohol and lingerie. He doesn't care about you. Not
you personally. All he cares about is three little holes that you possess. When you are ill he sends you cards because he
wants you to think he cares. How would it look if he didn't send a card? He obviously wants to keep fucking your vagina, so he wants you to think that you're more to him than just a fuck tube. But you're not. You pretty much proved it by saying he buys you alcohol and lingerie.
If you were to die, yes he would be devastated. Because then he would have to find some other naive young woman to use as a masturbatory aid. And that's just so much work, he has a good thing going here, and he wants to keep it as long as he possibly can.
I bet if you asked him for money for rent, he would say no.
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My life has been much less sheltered than I will share here, but no, I have never had an ongoing relationship with a marriage man before and yes, it does excite me to know that I am part of these secret that no one else can know about. I'm not entirely sure I care what his reasons are, I can enjoy this for my own reasons.
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I know what you mean about enjoying the secret part of this. The "forbidden" part I can understand, its fun to do things that you aren't supposed to. But you can get your kicks some other way. A way that doesn't allow an asshole to take advantage of your asshole.
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WHAT? First of all, I look NOTHING like this children. They are dark skinned with brown eyes, and are actually taller than me. I am pasty white with blue eyes and am much smaller than them. I seriously doubt that most men would be attracted to their own children, though now you're making me wonder why he likes it when I call him "Daddy." But LOTS of guys like to be called that during sex, and most of the men in my experience that wanted that did not even have children; surely it's more of a domination thing.
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Okay.
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That makes sense, about him going kinda soft while talking to her. I'm sure, though, that I meant something to him, after all he wanted to see me and we spent hours together that day. And maybe it is fucked that I liked sucking on him while he talked to his wife. I never claimed I was a good person; perhaps I'm evil, or just want to feel as though I have power over someone (his wife). Do you think I am a bad person? I am curious
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No I don't think you're a bad person. I do however think that this dude
is, and you need to remove yourself from the situation asap. I understand that it might be fun to suck him while he's talking to his wife, I used to love fingering an ex while she was talking on the phone to her mom, or another friend or something. Kind of a like a "haha, I know something you don't know" that the other person is unaware of that makes it that much more fun. This is not the proper way to do this though.
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I actually do know him very well, and you are no one to tell me otherwise. I know much of his past, what shaped him into the person he is, how he met his wife and how he feels toward the important people in his life. He complains about his job to me and he has shown very vulnerable aspects of his personality to me. The reason I do not share much of myself is because of my own psychological issues, which I refused to get into here. He has asked quite a lot about me, and he has told me that he wished I were less quiet and more open around him. I am not just a hole to him, I am a real person with feelings and thoughts just like anyone in a real relationship would be.
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Please stop talking about your "psychological issues". You are trying to justify or somehow explain away this situation and blame it on your "problems". Trying to blame something else for this happening to you. You need to take responsibility for what you have gotten yourself into, and promptly end things the way any self-respecting person would. Whatever issues you think you have are not the reason for this happening. They are merely a way for you to remove your decision-making process and easily throw down the "oh i have psychological issues, i must be doing this because of that".
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I do not resemble his daughters, as I said before. I believe the story of his wife's traumatic experiences wholeheartedly. He DOES do what he can to help his wife, but sometimes men need more than masturbation to get through life. He respects her immensely, and he talks about her quite frequently. He and I are very careful, so as to ensure that his family never finds out about our relationship
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He doesn't respect her. Or you. You seem to be unaware of the fact that
people can lie. Whatever bullshit sobstory he puts out for you about how he's the victim should be taken with a grain of salt. It means nothing. Everything he says is carefully thought out and constructed in his head before he says it so that he can continue to fuck you. See this situation from our point of view and you can see how fucked up it is.
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No, I am not a prostitute. Why is it that when a woman enjoys sex with someone, she is labeled a whore, but when a man does it it's considered socially acceptable and even good? What he and I have is a relationship, if a somewhat unorthodox one. Stop trying to be mean.
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No, what he is doing is definitely not socially acceptable, and definitely not good. You are allowed to enjoy sex, that's perfectly okay. But you can enjoy sex in a healthier way than this. I am not trying to be mean. I am trying to help you. If I didn't care, I wouldn't have responded in the first place. I'm not a troll like a lot of the members here. I just type my mind.
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He is not using me, this is a mutually beneficial relationship.
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It's beneficial for you.. how?
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It IS a relationship, it has just begun to progress to the point that all ym relationships do, which means that he starts to hurt me in bed and kind of make me feel unwanted and psychologically hurt. I think it may be because I am actually worthless, and he's started to come to understand it.
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Sigh. It is not a relationship. He is hurting you in bed and making you feel unwanted because he is a
fucking prick. Do you not understand this by now? No you are not worthless.
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I do like that kind of stuff, but only to a point. I like to see my blood but I don't like to have to... you know, it doesn't really matter, the specifics. I like some of it.
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You don't seem entirely convinced.
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I'm not asking for your pity, I wanted your insight. I know he does care about me, I just think maybe I went a little too far in asking him to harm me. Maybe I should try to communicate more with him, but usually during sex he keeps me gagged so I can't talk.
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During sex he keeps you gagged so you can't talk...
God I'm starting to think this is a huge troll. There is no way that you can possibly think that this is a relationship, and that he actually cares about you, or he is actually a decent human being.
Everything just screams to GTFO, and yet you can't see the light? Take a few steps back from the situation, read it from our perspective, and see that there is a better way.
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Most men, even the nicest and most caring, have always had a hard time making me cum. I really don't even mind honestly, I feel a great amount of satisfaction when they cum, because then I know I am making them happy and I can do a good job at something important.
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That makes sense, some girls just can't cum that easily. But he should be at least
trying, which he does not. He is selfish and only cares about himself and what he wants.
It's also good that you take pride in your ability to give orgasms. I like girls who like sucking dick. But at least I RECIPROCATE.
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Stop being ridiculous, you have no proof of this. What man wants to fuck his own kids??
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You never know.
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Who said anything about them having kids? And if I do like this sort of thing, so the fuck what? I am an adult and I can make my own decisions. What's so wrong with sex? Why are you making me feel bad? You could just express your opinions on the matter without making me out to be some sort of useless whore.
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I am not trying to make you feel bad. This is the second time that you have said such a thing, and I am sorry if my words hurt you. But know that it is not my intention to do so. I just want you to understand where I'm coming from. I am not trying to make you out to be a useless whore, that's just how he sees you. His mind, not mine.
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I honestly feel that he does care about me, even if not as a mistress or even a girlfriend. I'm more than holes to him, I am a person that feels and thinks for myself. And people do not call me a "free prostitute", sex does not have to be something so demeaning. I will not get pregnant, and if I did I would get an abortion and that would be the end of that. I am not so disillusioned as to think that any of these men would end their other relationships and lives to be with me, but why cannot I have some fun with them regardless?
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You can do whatever you want to. But you posted this in order to receive thoughts and opinions, so don't be upset if some things I write may be hurtful. Please know that I want you to be happy, and going down this road is not the way to do it.
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You don't know what I deserve.
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I know you deserve better than this.