black magic

[ergoat]

Originally Posted by RiddleMaster

I can't believe this thread was revived.

Yes, I actually studied magic for several years under legit scholars who have been recognized for their translations of Agrippa / Faust / Hebrew stuff (not Barnes and Noble booksellers or the internet). I didn't make it up as I went. I legit hit the books in intense study and learned a ton about it - especially ceremonial magic like Las Claviculas. In fact, I used to practice for many years.

Yes, the "concept" of black magic exists - but it is subjective. This is to say that a spell which kills somebody is not necessarily "black magic" because you could be killing someone in order to save somebody else. Ergo, magic's morality (colour) is relative to the will of the operator.

Does magic actually work though? Sorry to tell you but no. Outside of the power it has on someone's psychology or their perception, it's complete fucking bullshit. Nobody here can summon demons, angels or influence forces to change outcomes. In fact, nobody can even manipulate basic elements of matter without undertaking required physical action necessary to do so. EVERY SINGLE TIME it has been tested it has failed, and there is no enlightened group of people sitting out in the woods with magic superpowers that they just refuse to share with the world.

I practiced, studied, fasted, and went on quests with dedication and passion unlike 98% of the motherfuckers who claim to have powers or special knowledge. One day I grew up and realized that there's no actual empirical evidence for what I was doing and that I have nothing outside of my own, subjective anecdotal experiences to corroborate the existence of it.

The experiences are extremely valuable and, if I may be so arrogant, I have a small wealth of knowledge plus a library of handwritten books from famous "magicians." You can literally spend years pouring yourself out to master even one of the grimoires and the practices entailed, but you're not going to extrinsically get rewarded for it.

Sorry guys, there's no magic other than the ability to deceive your own perceptions.

Lol. Man you must be such a spiritual warrior if you gave up on your own subjective experiences for nothing. But, I mean, let me know if you ever find anything outside that experience. Let me know how that extrinsic reward thing goes.

All you really did in this post, and others from what I've seen, is present an argument from authority which seems dubious given some of the attitudes you express. In particular the way you determine magic's value based on its subjectivity.

[psychomanthis]

am i doin it rite gais?????

[mudhut_madonna]

this is closer

[Haiti's Space Agency]

Originally Posted by ergoat

Lol. Man you must be such a spiritual warrior if you gave up on your own subjective experiences for nothing. But, I mean, let me know if you ever find anything outside that experience. Let me know how that extrinsic reward thing goes.

All you really did in this post, and others from what I've seen, is present an argument from authority which seems dubious given some of the attitudes you express. In particular the way you determine magic's value based on its subjectivity.

He's actually studied a bit of magic though

[Zanick]

Originally Posted by a224

He's actually studied a bit of magic though

His experience is subjective. If his credentials are legit then he brings up some very interesting points, but many occultists would disagree.

[-Fuck-]

I have no doubts you can summon spirits using sex or masturbation, in fact Im certain a lot of people have been scared into psychic shock because of this.

Is it something Id want to get into full speed and make things happen in this world for my own benefit other than getting a job, smelling the fresh air, and living my boring ass life? Hell no. Not only is my seed too good for gods, demons, angels, my stomach (Crowley style) or gym socks, it's too good for most vaginas, themselves.

American Woman...

Mama let me be.

*disappears off into the wilderness, surrounded by a white halo, levitating above the lesser beings of the world*

I think if you just learn to love, you live a better life so long as you set parameters for your lifestyle and boundaries. Coercion, manipulation even in terms of black magic, which I dont know how to do but dont doubt others can, hold no interest to me.

I dont think astral projection, inedia, or lucid dreaming fall into these categories, but christian fuckfaces and their shithole society sure wish they could. I think anyone wise or on a white path doesn't speak much to most people who can be said to be living lives of anything but real love for one another.

Food, drugs, sex and how to get more $$$. Dont got anything we want? Fuck off, Buddha. Jail, execution or just go live in the woods homeless.

[dephdiddy]

Originally Posted by sepht

so what is art?

dogfuckers right, art honestly is magic.

[iMagiNation]

Originally Posted by RiddleMaster

Art is whatever a person declares is art.

No, that's just a tautology.

[Figure-8]

Art is when a person declares war, or love, with a particular medium.

[Flatland]

Or both. Amirite?

[Figure-8]

Yes, amirite.

[iMagiNation]

Originally Posted by Figure-8

Art is when a person declares war, or love, with a particular medium.

Uh....okay.

[Spacecase]

Originally Posted by sepht

so what is art?

Deep within every person there exists a core than is entirely inaccessible by the conscious mind. Art is any process that gradually reduces all the barriers surrounding this core.

[Bradley]

Originally Posted by Figure-8

Art is when a person declares war, or love, with a particular medium.

what if I just wanted to make a still life? That's more empirical than it is emotional creation.

[sepht]

[Figure-8]

Originally Posted by iMagiNation

Uh....okay.

They don't always die in war. And it doesn't always have big, loud explosions.

Originally Posted by Spacecase

Deep within every person there exists a core than is entirely inaccessible by the conscious mind. Art is any process that gradually reduces all the barriers surrounding this core.

Nice.

[Bakayar]

"Take inaminate object doll, which u hav prior conected or synced with the human of choice then perform spell (force barrier) on doll. This way the doll is protected wich means anythin conected to doll is protected but the person itself is untainted by dark force, its like the doll is an operator or an x in an equation"

My friends advice^

For voodoo obviously

[Kwinnie Bogan]

Originally Posted by DirtySanchez

I could tel it was bullshit once I read the phrase "alternative medicine". New age healing is a fraud and hasn't been supported by any form of science. It offers placebo at best. Let me ask you this. If you got cancer would you rely on alternative medicine or proven science?

Extremely ironic statements from you considering your avatar is a Templar Knight. Those guys did a lot. Including dabble.

[electric wizard]

Originally Posted by sepht

DM said black and white magic should be combined to bring the power level to higher levels.

i can summon shadow people from hell to sap more energy

White magic is of pure intention and goodwill. If you can't accomplish this, then don't try to use black.
And stop summoning beings directly from Hell. If you think they have the best of intentions for you just because you call for them, you're fucking retarded.

[sepht]

Originally Posted by electric wizard

White magic is of pure intention and goodwill. If you can't accomplish this, then don't try to use black.
And stop summoning beings directly from Hell. If you think they have the best of intentions for you just because you call for them, you're fucking retarded.

says the schizo getting fucked by malevolent spirits

really you have no say in this matter considering how you obviously cant handle magic