Dust 514 beta...

Snoopy · #1 05-25-2012, 06:35 PM

lulz I just got my invite

For those of you who don't know, Dust 514 is a FPSMMORPG set in the same universe as Eve Online. The retarded thing is that it's a PS3 exclusive but whatever. I'll update when I have some footage...

**Rolf** · #2 05-26-2012, 12:37 AM

It's going to be horrible, proclaims Rolf.

**zuperxtreme** · #3 05-26-2012, 12:46 AM

Seeing as they're getting so much shit for making it a PS3 exclusive I hope they port it(ugh...) to the PC.

Let us know if it's any good.

**rabbhimself** · #4 05-26-2012, 06:28 AM

It's not a PS3 exclusive...

...It's on Vita too

I did get excited when I saw the launch code thing during the Fanfest presentation.

Snoopy · #5 05-26-2012, 08:48 AM

Oh god, where do I start. Some issues can be explained by the fact that the game is still in early beta phase. Other issues just stem from the fact that it's on a console.

1. The PS3 can't render for shit.

Dust uses the Unreal 3 engine, but the PS3 struggles hard to render everything. Gameplay is constantly hampered by drops in fps. On top of that, the graphics look really blurry and shitty in general. You can only recognize it's the U3 engine by the slow loading of textures. It basically looks like a PS3 game from '07... like it's running on a PS2.

2. The UI will kill your eyes.

I had to come sit real close to my tv to be able to read anything. CCP obviously has a lot of experience in creating a powerful in game UI... for a PC game. They do not have the same talent when it comes to console UIs. It was really hard to keep track of what was going on between the tiny unreadable font, the god awful color combinations and the lag between shit happening, and updates appearing on screen about it.

3. Hardcore gameplay on a baby platform.

The game's objectives are impossible to complete without some coordinated teamwork. Most of the time you have no idea what the hell you're doing either. Having to think is not a bad thing. I just don't see how they will draw an audience that has such a high attention span... in the pool of console gamers. Perhaps I just don't think highly of console gamers, but I don't think there is a real market for this game.

4. No aim assist...

This is the best one so far. Pretty much all console shooters have some form of aim assistance. Or, their maps are so tiny that you can't miss. Not with Dust. Shit's hardcore. So hardcore that no one can kill anyone. I was sitting somewhere high up sniping little nubs when some dude crawled up on me with a machine gun. In a PC game, that would mean I'm about to get instagibbed. Nothing I can do with my long range rifle against his in your face spraying of death. Right? Not in Dust. We both had to reload twice before one of us died. The controls are the most awful part of the game. I cannot stress enough how bad they are. I literally laughed at the PS3 controller and every little gay ass console fps player who tries to make an argument that FPS games can be played on a controller.

This game just reminded me that there hasn't been a single real FPS game on a console since... forever. It reminded me that FPS games just don't work on controllers. And it reminded me that the millions of "hardcore" competitive console fps players are little retards who can't play for shit without aim assist.

I'm going to stop now. I know it's a beta but I really can't see how they can fix this, without breaking all of the stuff they want the game to be. This just cannot work on a PS3. Or any console for that matter. CCP is a good company that usually knows what it's doing. It has had some blunders in the past, but this one is the biggest yet. I don't think this shit is going to sell 10K copies.

Here's some footage:

Dust 514 Closed Beta Gameplay - YouTube

It's not mine though. That dude will probably get his account banned due to his NDA breach. They're being super aggressive about that shit. Look at a few seconds of that footage will tell you why.

crimsonsmoke · #6 05-26-2012, 11:25 AM

From that video you posted, it looks appalling.

That said, I would consider myself a console gamer. I've no interest in PC building or PC gaming; nor do I have an interest in nerdy PC elitism.

I'm so bored of FPS games in general, that playing on a console isn't really an issue. Mind you, I haven't really played any new games for a while, except Rayman Origins, which would feel horrible with a keyboard and mouse.

Also, fuck military shooters of all kinds. As gamers, we really need to get off this fad - it's killing innovation and diversity. But then that's what the unwashed masses want, isn't it: buckets of the same colours shit, month on month.

Snoopy · #7 05-26-2012, 12:17 PM

I know the solution to that problem. They should just abolish all forms of gun control and give gamers high caliber, full autimatic rifles and machine guns. Let them go nuts on a shooting range once a week. That would be the death of games like CoD.

It will also have a side effect, but I'm not sure exactly which scenario would play out.

Either

A) All crime is instantly stopped from the pettiest theft to the mafia to political corruption.

or

B) Gehenna comes and all life is consumed in fire.

&Zenith · #8 05-26-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Snoopy

I know the solution to that problem. They should just abolish all forms of gun control and give gamers high caliber, full autimatic rifles and machine guns. Let them go nuts on a shooting range once a week. That would be the death of games like CoD.

I am completely in favor of this.

crimsonsmoke · #9 05-26-2012, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoopy

I know the solution to that problem. They should just abolish all forms of gun control and give gamers high caliber, full autimatic rifles and machine guns. Let them go nuts on a shooting range once a week. That would be the death of games like CoD.

It will also have a side effect, but I'm not sure exactly which scenario would play out.

Either

A) All crime is instantly stopped from the pettiest theft to the mafia to political corruption.

or

B) Gehenna comes and all life is consumed in fire.

I believe the latter is more desirable. So long as I've got front row seats.

FrY · #10 05-26-2012, 02:04 PM

Wow, that was no exaggeration game looks like shit looks like it plays like shit and probably smells like shit.

But I am not quite sure what that says about that game though.

FrY · #11 05-26-2012, 02:04 PM

Wow, that was no exaggeration game looks like shit looks like it plays like shit and probably smells like shit.

But I am not quite sure what that says about that game though.

**zuperxtreme** · #12 05-26-2012, 04:58 PM

Pretty shitty to judge a Beta game, but man you weren't exaggerating. :|

Snoopy · #13 05-26-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by zuperxtreme

Pretty shitty to judge a Beta game, but man you weren't exaggerating. :|

No indeed I wasn't. I could have gone on but decided to stop. I didn't even touch on the skills, market, player run corps, micro-transactions, etc... And I wanted to be biased in favour of this game. But it's just too shitty I'd have to be a complete idiot to say something positive about it. And the most worrying thing is that I simply can't see how they could possibly fix it.

I've played my fare share of betas and they all had shit wrong with them, but the core gameplay worked. Nothing about Dust 514 makes me want to play it. It's a huge disappointment and let down. I guess we all saw that one coming.

Miley Highrus · #14 05-26-2012, 05:23 PM

That sucks I kind of like the overall look of the game too. I can tell how u move you don't suck but then when you try to shoot someone you can't lol. I'd get way too frustrated.

ScaryGary · #15 06-01-2012, 12:27 AM

I JUST heard about this game a few hours ago. I hear it's impressive, but no fun.

sounds a little appealing though. there's no monthly fee, is there?

ScaryGary · #16 06-01-2012, 12:29 AM

oh, "free-to-play" I just read.

so yeah, monthly fee if you want your experience to be worth a shit.

Snoopy · #17 06-01-2012, 02:55 AM

It's free to play with microtransactions.

ScaryGary · #18 06-01-2012, 03:00 AM

haha, yeah. I read that right after my second post and didn't want to seem obnoxious by doing a third in a row.

sounds pretty cool.

NamelessNom4d · #19 06-01-2012, 05:01 PM

This doesn't surprise me at all. Right when it was announced I knew it wasn't going to work on the PS3 and would be better on PC. Hell I don't play EVE or even care but I'd probably play this if it was on PC. Plus EVE players already have PCs so they would easily be able to jump into Dust if it was also on PC. I don't think every EVE player has a PS3 or even knows someone who has a PS3 and would care.

**zuperxtreme** · #20 06-01-2012, 05:06 PM

Plus you just wouldn't have the limitations the PS3 has. Pretty sure they just needed money and Sony offered them a good sum if they made it exclusive. Pretty shitty.

ScaryGary · #21 06-01-2012, 07:54 PM

Well, at least you PC folk are for sure getting Dark Souls: PTDE. fair trade, whether this works or not.

bleh · #22 06-14-2012, 10:23 PM

Yeah, i just got done playing it too and it looks like it's going to be shit.

Plus, there's this in-game currency called "AUR" that lets you buy more advanced weapons and skills. But in order to get x-amount of AUR, you have to spend $10-20 in the playstation store.

Pee Vee Proots, M.D. · #23 06-14-2012, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bleh

Yeah, i just got done playing it too and it looks like it's going to be shit.

Plus, there's this in-game currency called "AUR" that lets you buy more advanced weapons and skills. But in order to get x-amount of AUR, you have to spend $10-20 in the playstation store.

What happened to ISK?

bleh · #24 06-15-2012, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pee Vee Proots, M.D.

What happened to ISK?

It's still there, you earn a lot of it through doing battles, and it will slowly increase while you're not. But some weapons/skills/etc (mostly the more premium ones) require you to use AUR.