Hung up on how much I dislike having to work

[ShyStar]

Lately I've been saying it more often than usual, and trying to get others to see what I see...work sucks, it is in the most part unnecessary and simply wastes peoples lives doing trivial tasks.

I feel stuck at work, obligated to 'stick with it' despite not really needing the money and it being detrimental to my mental health...I don't know how to escape.

My dad says he didn't know I was unhappy (at work? Or in general? I don't even know what he says he was clueless about) but pretty much expects me to stay as well...along with everyone else I know and have told.

My brother called and was saying how he didn't like work and that he could 'help' saying he had been in a similar situation - I ended up hanging up on him after he said he'd been in a similar situation because I simply do not accept this (long story).

What really irritated me is how they don't offer support for my decisions - I want to leave, they are trying to convince me not to, essentially arguing against my own feelings. I am single and really have no one else to trust or rely on, which makes me feel even worse.

In addition to this, my brothers long term girlfriend recently left a job she hated with his full support...I asked him how come he didn't just 'help' her to stay in her job to which he simply ignored.

I know what's best for me and I'll do what I need to do but I'm disappointed about how my family reacts - I'm not happy and it's making me sick mentally and it's manifesting physically now as well.

Are they assholes or have I got the wrong attitude? I'm in a graduate position which does make me consider NOT leaving more simply because of all the time I have already invested into it and it seems a waste to leave all that behind.

[komokazi]

Are you black?

[Rourke]

Quit. You don't need money. You don't need to work. Dig into your savings. Your happiness is more important. Keep at it. You're going to graduate. Nobody likes to work. Buy your happiness. Maybe your family doesn't want to see you as a lazy slacker. They put image above your happiness. They're assholes. Your brother tried to help you. You denied it. You're the asshole.

[ShyStar]

Originally Posted by komokazi

Are you black?

No. I'm not lazy, if that's what you were angling at - I think I've done enough work for awhile and think I could survive better than most people if I downgraded to a part time/casual job.

Originally Posted by Rourke

Quit. You don't need money. You don't need to work. Dig into your savings. Your happiness is more important. Keep at it. You're going to graduate. Nobody likes to work. Buy your happiness. Maybe your family doesn't want to see you as a lazy slacker. They put image above your happiness. They're assholes. Your brother tried to help you. You denied it. You're the asshole.

I graduated 2 years ago.

I still don't get how my brother was going to help me. Saying he has been in a similar situation was insulting to me as it is simply not true and the fact his gf had been and that he didn't 'help' her had me a little cynical.

[Shrike]

Work, man I don't believe in it. My dad's 62 and he still can't stop working. He always has to have some project on or something doing.

Like for me, i've been out of work for years and now they're kicking me off benefits so I have to get a job. I'm signed up to an employment agency and they're like "so what do you want to do?" and i'm like "i don't fucking know". Eventually I give them the spiel that someone else told me about how I kinda like computers and I have some basic proficiency there and so maybe I should look at data entry or call centre helpdesk work and get some experience and take some courses and see what happens.
But I don't believe a single word of it. I know I would inevitably hate a job like that after not very long, and I can easily see myself getting trapped in some shitty office drone lifestyle. I hate getting up early and I hate commuting along with all the herd.
And it's fucking stupid anyway, cos chilling out at home messing around on the computer and reading shit on the internet etc is very different to typing or answering calls from idiots for eight hours.

I mean everyone I look up to, every band and singer and comedian and character in movies talk about going it alone, and not getting stuck in some shitty dead-end job just because your guidance counsellor told you you'd be good at it. But I don't see any other way.

Sure, maybe i'll get a job and use my evenings to work on writing or learning to sing better and maybe i'll break out and do something interesting with my life. Or maybe i'll just veg out in front of the tv like everyone else and wake up in ten years time and be 35 and realise I wasted my youth working as a wage slave for some assholes in suits.

[Figure-8]

Work for the moment, and plan for the future.

Turn the attitude around and do your best job.

[southernsun]

Working to make someone else rich while you get paid 'just enough to get by' is modern day slavery.

[Zok Jr.]

News flash! Nobody likes working its just part of life.

Deal with it.

[testerman]

get a job where you are on the move instead of just sitting there all day long

[Shrike]

Originally Posted by Zok Jr.

News flash! Nobody likes working its just part of life.

Deal with it.

Why? "Because" is not an answer, it wasn't an answer when you were five, and it isn't one now.

[Haiti's Space Agency]

What don't you like about it?

[komokazi]

Originally Posted by _southernsun

Working to make someone else rich while you get paid 'just enough to get by' is modern day slavery.

Nobody is making you work for anyone else. Have people work for you to make you rich.

[Iehovah]

So try a different job? I don't see how your dad figures into this post-graduation unless you're some kind of trust fund bitch.

[ShyStar]

Originally Posted by Figure-8

Work for the moment, and plan for the future.

Turn the attitude around and do your best job.

Been working at least one job at a time for >10 years, another thing about me is I am not materialistic in the slightest, all I need is a working, non-gaming laptop with prepaid cheap internet. All my savings have gone towards escaping work - House, furnishings...solar hot water/electricity is my goal after I own my place outright (before xmas all things going to plan)

Originally Posted by _southernsun

Working to make someone else rich while you get paid 'just enough to get by' is modern day slavery.

Tell me something I don't know - Slaves of the old day were provided with shelter and food - Now you have to afford it yourself with what they pay you.

Originally Posted by Zok Jr.

News flash! Nobody likes working its just part of life.

Deal with it.

I know a lot of people who say they like their work - It's a sickness as far as I am concerned.

Originally Posted by testerman

get a job where you are on the move instead of just sitting there all day long

Been there and done that, it was just as bad.

Originally Posted by a224

What don't you like about it?

Most things. The bullshit work 'politics', understanding that a % of what I earn goes towards things required for work (fuel, work clothes), the time it consumes, the inflexibility of it and I just think it's unnecessary.

Originally Posted by komokazi

Nobody is making you work for anyone else. Have people work for you to make you rich.

Sounds nice but it's a bit more difficult than that in real life. You need capital to start up something - That means either working long enough to save the money or taking a loan - Effectively making you work for a financial institution which in many ways is worse than working for someone. I also don't like the idea of having people in the same position as I am in now resenting me. Also, most businesses have already been established long before I was even born. What am I going to do? Start making burgers in competition with...McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Subway, etc, etc, or a clothes manufacturer against Nike, Adidas, etc, etc already established internationally? - Salving my guts out just to make ends meet and try to support employees? I don't think that's much of a plan

Originally Posted by Iehovah

So try a different job? I don't see how your dad figures into this post-graduation unless you're some kind of trust fund bitch.

I can't think of a job I would be happy with - I'm in job #4 right now not counting work experience which would place me in job #8 and no I'm not in and out of work, I'm in my 9th year at my current job and my shortest stint at one job was still over 1 year and that was combined with other work as well as university. Not a 'trust fund bitch' I just would prefer some support, family is all I really have :/

[komokazi]

Originally Posted by ShyStar

Sounds nice but it's a bit more difficult than that in real life. You need capital to start up something - That means either working long enough to save the money or taking a loan - Effectively making you work for a financial institution which in many ways is worse than working for someone. I also don't like the idea of having people in the same position as I am in now resenting me. Also, most businesses have already been established long before I was even born. What am I going to do? Start making burgers in competition with...McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Subway, etc, etc, or a clothes manufacturer against Nike, Adidas, etc, etc already established internationally? - Salving my guts out just to make ends meet and try to support employees? I don't think that's much of a plan

Then don't work you lazy fucking nigger. Nobody here gives a fuck, if you can't put out the effort to make it, then tough motherfucking shit. You think those people got where they are just magically landing in a CEO position? Not everyone that has made it like that had to start at the bottom, but you can bet your ass many of those people, and probably the one you are working for now, worked their ass off for years to get where they are. Besides, there aren't a whole lot of jobs that constitute "slaving your guts out" in any sense of the phrase. When I loaded trucks at UPS or worked in construction, that is the only "slaving" I would even come close to consider using such a descriptor. Shit, UPS is commonly referred to as "under paid slaves". When you work a fucking job where you lose 100lbs in about a year, then you can come back and complain about how much you are slaving and that wah wah wah you don't get paid enough.

The only reasons you don't get paid well at your job is because you don't qualify for something that is better, possess skills for a higher paying job, and that there are many people out there that are willing to accept the lower pay for your menial job. That is why you get paid so little.

Keep complaining you lazy nigger, go be a leech on society. It's not like one more is going to truly bother anyone.

[Piles of Crack]

Make sure when you decide to take an assault weapon into the workplace to vent your frustrations with that you yell something about "Zoklet made me do it" when ypu open fire.

[Haiti's Space Agency]

Originally Posted by ShyStar

Most things. The bullshit work 'politics', understanding that a % of what I earn goes towards things required for work (fuel, work clothes), the time it consumes, the inflexibility of it and I just think it's unnecessary.

Maybe if you explained to your boss that fuel and work clothes are expensive he can give you a raise and it will make you more happy.

[Sir Cornwell]

What about another job that you hate less? Many employers say that since there are so many long-term unemployed: they prefer new hires be drawn from the pool of those already working. Perhaps a part-time one and a 2nd p-t jobs off and on.

The thing is to have your life be actively productive. Not necessarily only working for someone else but not just all in your imagination either.

[ShyStar]

Originally Posted by komokazi

Then don't work you lazy fucking nigger. Nobody here gives a fuck, if you can't put out the effort to make it, then tough motherfucking shit. You think those people got where they are just magically landing in a CEO position? Not everyone that has made it like that had to start at the bottom, but you can bet your ass many of those people, and probably the one you are working for now, worked their ass off for years to get where they are. Besides, there aren't a whole lot of jobs that constitute "slaving your guts out" in any sense of the phrase. When I loaded trucks at UPS or worked in construction, that is the only "slaving" I would even come close to consider using such a descriptor. Shit, UPS is commonly referred to as "under paid slaves". When you work a fucking job where you lose 100lbs in about a year, then you can come back and complain about how much you are slaving and that wah wah wah you don't get paid enough.

The only reasons you don't get paid well at your job is because you don't qualify for something that is better, possess skills for a higher paying job, and that there are many people out there that are willing to accept the lower pay for your menial job. That is why you get paid so little.

Keep complaining you lazy nigger, go be a leech on society. It's not like one more is going to truly bother anyone.

Love your rage. And yeah, I do think most people in CEO positions fell into them. I'm discriminated against because of my age. LOL @ CEO's 'working their ass off' what are you 14?

Picking fruit at like 30c a bin was slaving away and it was one of the best jobs going - If you didn't work hard you didn't get paid well, there was true incentive other than getting a bullshit team leader position or manager position - These jobs are just for figureheads, they don't actually do anything - It's being rewarded for being a fuckwit and wearing a suit, knowing a few buzzwords and corporate jargon.

I get paid pretty well, I never said otherwise...I'm pretty sure I implied money is useless though...you had the UPS job because you can't read and comprehend huh?

How do I constitute being lazy? Because I got all my working days out of the way early on and am not so pathetic to want to climb some bullshit 'corporate ladder' or have idiotic ideals such as yours that people can actually 'make it' these days?

You'll look back one day as you are down trodden and fucked up and know how right I am.

[ShyStar]

I am interested to know what people think is a good pay or salary - My time is worth more to me than any money you could give me. I could get paid 10mil a year in my job and still not be happy, it's got nothing to do with money it has to do with being more than some clock punching loser (who does so willingly with a dumbass smile on their face).

[Obbe]

Even if you were homeless, you would still need to dig through trash or beg for change to not die. If you don't care about life, then stop working. There is nothing preventing you.

You can change your attitude about the job you do. I have fun when I am at work. What is it about work that you cannot enjoy?

[Figure-8]

Originally Posted by _southernsun

Working to make someone else rich while you get paid 'just enough to get by' is modern day slavery.

And this aspect of the system was obtained by the taking over of the u.s. banks by the original owners of the european banks. Then the corporations came hand in hand and control more legislature and registration than human interests do. The rate of inflation and the fractional reserve banking scheme caused the overall value of the dollar to degenerate while debt only ever increases leading to an equation that must break, rather than equalize itself.

All the while those who designed this system benefit from it, fly around in fancy jets and make snobby jokes about you while you bust your ass. Everybody works for them, there is no other benefit, there is no "whole", global benefit from a few people obtaining the majority of the wealth and working to cleverly diffuse the public and keep it for themselves.

There are many tricks. But to put it simply, your parents started out in a world where they could leave the house at 18 and find a good enough paying job to make rent and start a living. Now, as a result of that mass inflation from the way the system was designed to benefit those already benefiting, a person must work around 3 times harder and gets paid around 3 times less.

This is estimated from compensating the amount of people at work, the wage they're paid and the value their money has in economic society. The value has only decreased, as the general amount of money increased. As the debt increased, the pay continued to decrease. Leaving a system with no where to turn. The goods and value of goods decreased, leaving us with lesser and lesser quality material, and less of it.

D :

[Your Grace]

I recommend taking a visit to your local dungeons. Every man behind those bars would murder you and eat your raw corpse if doing so would allow them to trade places with you. Be grateful for what you have, even if it is only a peasants lifestyle.

[Issue313]

Maybe your job isn't the problem so much as a lack of a life beyond it. So I dunno, find some ho and shit out some kids or something. Your "family is all I have" comment makes me think you just aren't interacting with people in a friendly and intimate enough manner. Being a wage slave in Middle America is no fun, thats why Americans like meth and Fox news, the news to keep them scared, the meth to keep them working.

[ShyStar]

Originally Posted by Issue313

Maybe your job isn't the problem so much as a lack of a life beyond it. So I dunno, find some ho and shit out some kids or something. Your "family is all I have" comment makes me think you just aren't interacting with people in a friendly and intimate enough manner. Being a wage slave in Middle America is no fun, thats why Americans like meth and Fox news, the news to keep them scared, the meth to keep them working.

The 'family is all I have' statement was kind of a throw away, it's hard to justify how/why I pay any attention to what my family feel about what I am planning to do - If I don't have their support I'd rather educate them to see things my way than to turn my back on them completely.

Years ago I would have said I had no life but now it's I don't have time to have a life because of work. If I didn't think I had a life to live outside of work I don't think I'd be gunning to leave work and embrace that as much as I am.

I am introverted as well, I like having smaller, more intimate relationships with others over having a lot of acquaintances that don't mean much to me.