4-FA?

[komokazi]

What is the general consensus in reference to 4-FA? Experiences?

[jackiesbaby]

Binging on it gives you a comedown that feels like a meth comedown had a baby with a bad MDMA hangover.

[Sanzenbacher]

Thread relative to my interests, as I too am looking into this.

[jackiesbaby]

I did 4-FA 5/7 days a week every week from January to May so...ask me anything.

[komokazi]

Well, I'll be posting up my experience with it later today.

@ jackiesbaby: What were some of the effects? Duration? How does it compare to other stims?

[jackiesbaby]

Originally Posted by komokazi

Well, I'll be posting up my experience with it later today.

@ jackiesbaby: What were some of the effects? Duration? How does it compare to other stims?

Feels like adderall with a slight MDMA-like serotonin (empathogen) feel, the duration varies a LOT. After a two-day break, it'd last 12 hours. By the 5th day in a row, it lasted 3 hours. After that, you need to take a two day break or it stops being euphoric, but the euphoria comes back. Overall I like the feeling better than D-amp. I binged on it and used it to stay up for 5 days once, and when I woke up after that I felt like a 90 year old with parkinsons for a few days. Super weak, super shaky and super tired. Much worse than a meth or MDMA comedown/hangover alone.

But overall, it's a pretty good stim, best RC stim out there in my opinion. Just don't overdo it.

Oh, as for dosage, when I started I'd need 150mg each time, by the end I needed 350mg-400mg each time.

[Sanzenbacher]

Originally Posted by jackiesbaby

I did 4-FA 5/7 days a week every week from January to May so...ask me anything.

Wikipedia says:

The subjective effects of 4-Fluoroamphetamine include euphoria which some find similar to the effects of MDMA, increased energy (stimulation), mood elevation, excessive talking, bruxism, and suppressed appetite (anorexic).

How noticeable are the beneficial effects (euphoria, energy, mood, and sociability)?

I have done adderall, and found it to be a much better anti-anxiolytic than some benzos. I can't get prescribed it though, as my doctor is already concerned with my low-weight, and the fact I've struggled with weight, body dysmorphia, and an eating disorder in the past And for the longest time I was against uppers, and I just begged for benzos and other downers, because I just wanted to not give a fuck, and hated people. So whenever they asked if I had difficulty concentrating, remembering, etc. I said no, despite whether it was correct or not.

The suppressed appetite also interests me, though, admittedly for the wrong reasons. How easy is it not to eat? When I was on adderall and then tried benzedrex, I had no appetite whatsoever, and just took a few bites for each meal to make sure I didn't faint.

[jackiesbaby]

Originally Posted by Sanzenbacher

Wikipedia says:


How noticeable are the beneficial effects (euphoria, energy, mood, and sociability)?

I have done adderall, and found it to be a much better anti-anxiolytic than some benzos. I can't get prescribed it though, as my doctor is already concerned with my low-weight, and the fact I've struggled with weight, body dysmorphia, and an eating disorder in the past And for the longest time I was against uppers, and I just begged for benzos and other downers, because I just wanted to not give a fuck, and hated people. So whenever they asked if I had difficulty concentrating, remembering, etc. I said no, despite whether it was correct or not.

The suppressed appetite also interests me, though, admittedly for the wrong reasons. How easy is it not to eat? When I was on adderall and then tried benzedrex, I had no appetite whatsoever, and just took a few bites for each meal to make sure I didn't faint.

4-FA is a stronger appetite supressant than D-amp, I lost 40 pounds in a month on it (although this was intentional). It's great for social anxiety, and it'll make you LOVE being around people. only problem is you tend to talk way too much.

There's also basically no comedown as long as you only use it once in a day.

To best describe the comedown after a 5-day binge(along with being malnourished): Every single muscle in your body hurts, your tongue is swelling from the dehydration, even walking across a room makes you feel like you just ran a mile, and you have a strong feeling of derealization and wrongness, like everything is unfamiliar and nothing is real anymore. That was the worst part, the derealization. It's hard to describe but just know, it's a lonely, horrible feeling. And the tinnitus. It feels like someone is shocking your brain because of how loud the tinnitus is.

[meateor]

Originally Posted by jackiesbaby

4-FA is a stronger appetite supressant than D-amp, I lost 40 pounds in a month on it (although this was intentional). It's great for social anxiety, and it'll make you LOVE being around people. only problem is you tend to talk way too much.

Damn, I love d-amp's anxiolytic effects, so much more powerful than alpraz or loraz for me, by a LOT. Not to say that benzos don't have their place (lazy beach days with a drink in hand, for instance.)

[FrY]

Originally Posted by jackiesbaby

4-FA is a stronger appetite supressant than D-amp, I lost 40 pounds in a month on it (although this was intentional). It's great for social anxiety, and it'll make you LOVE being around people. only problem is you tend to talk way too much.

There's also basically no comedown as long as you only use it once in a day.

To best describe the comedown after a 5-day binge(along with being malnourished): Every single muscle in your body hurts, your tongue is swelling from the dehydration, even walking across a room makes you feel like you just ran a mile, and you have a strong feeling of derealization and wrongness, like everything is unfamiliar and nothing is real anymore. That was the worst part, the derealization. It's hard to describe but just know, it's a lonely, horrible feeling. And the tinnitus. It feels like someone is shocking your brain because of how loud the tinnitus is.

He is just kidding folks, we all know 4-fa is really only good for gardens.

[jackiesbaby]

Originally Posted by FrY

He is just kidding folks, we all know 4-fa is really only good for gardens.

I was speaking for my lab rat test subjects, of course. I would never consume 4-FA, that's dangerous and illegal and dangerous illegal things are bad.

[FrY]

Originally Posted by jackiesbaby

I was speaking for my lab rat test subjects, of course. I would never consume 4-FA, that's dangerous and illegal and dangerous illegal things are bad.

Good point, I cannot argue with that.

[meateor]

4-fA IS BATH SALTS WERE ALL FUCKED

Also, I'm gonna laugh when it gets turned into a prescription medicine.

[Miley Highrus]

Jackies how much were you dosing your lab rats and how fast did they build tolerance. Also do you think a rat who was doing 1 day on one off or even 2 on 1 off would experience any negative side effects? How about in relation to tolerance?

[Piles of Crack]

If someone stuffed drugs in their lab rat and then ate the lab rat in order to stuff themselves with the drugs, does that make it illegal since the rat was the one who actually took drugs, and you just took the rat?

[turboneger]

Originally Posted by Piles of Crack

If someone stuffed drugs in their lab rat and then ate the lab rat in order to stuff themselves with the drugs, does that make it illegal since the rat was the one who actually took drugs, and you just took the rat?

[psychomanthis]

Originally Posted by Piles of Crack

If someone stuffed drugs in their lab rat and then ate the lab rat in order to stuff themselves with the drugs, does that make it illegal since the rat was the one who actually took drugs, and you just took the rat?

Me: "Sup PoC, what are you on today?"

PoC: "I'm totally on rat man "

Me: "Righteous..."

[komokazi]

Originally Posted by turboneger

I just IV'd a rat.

[Piles of Crack]

IV'ing rats is what you spiral down into once banging wasps just doesn't cut it anymore.

[permameth]

4-FA made my turkey happy but when I gave it 4-FMA it went to a whole other level. I would say it was in more euphoria then ever experienced by it.

[FrY]

I just use it to stimulate photosynthesis and energy production in my tomato plants.

[A$AP Weed Smoker]

Come over to sketch town (southside atx) and get high

[komokazi]

A total let-down.

[litefire]

Originally Posted by komokazi

A total let-down.

That's surprising. What was your dose?

[A$AP Weed Smoker]

Drugs are a let down. AA is the way.

[Sanzenbacher]

Originally Posted by Weed Smoker

AA is the way.

[Mashleshmash]

Yeah what was your dose komo?

[&Zenith]

Originally Posted by jackiesbaby

Binging on it gives you a comedown that feels like a meth comedown had a baby with a bad MDMA hangover.

What in the fuck? No... Just, no.

Originally Posted by komokazi

A total let-down.

The best thing about it is that it isn't very harsh at all but still somewhat enjoyable.

Originally Posted by meateor

4-fA IS BATH SALTS WERE ALL FUCKED

Also, I'm gonna laugh when it gets turned into a prescription medicine.

4-FA bath salts? I swear, I have accrued two months of alcohol-induced brain damage and I still think some of you have a comparable IQ to that of my refrigerator's temperature in relation to my own. And seriously, did we need another one of these threads? Well... evidently we did but the search function and Google does wonders, I hope you all know.

Originally Posted by jackiesbaby

Feels like adderall with a slight MDMA-like serotonin (empathogen) feel, the duration varies a LOT. After a two-day break, it'd last 12 hours. By the 5th day in a row, it lasted 3 hours. After that, you need to take a two day break or it stops being euphoric, but the euphoria comes back. Overall I like the feeling better than D-amp. I binged on it and used it to stay up for 5 days once, and when I woke up after that I felt like a 90 year old with parkinsons for a few days. Super weak, super shaky and super tired. Much worse than a meth or MDMA comedown/hangover alone.

But overall, it's a pretty good stim, best RC stim out there in my opinion. Just don't overdo it.

Oh, as for dosage, when I started I'd need 150mg each time, by the end I needed 350mg-400mg each time.

Originally Posted by jackiesbaby

4-FA is a stronger appetite supressant than D-amp, I lost 40 pounds in a month on it (although this was intentional). It's great for social anxiety, and it'll make you LOVE being around people. only problem is you tend to talk way too much.

There's also basically no comedown as long as you only use it once in a day.

To best describe the comedown after a 5-day binge(along with being malnourished): Every single muscle in your body hurts, your tongue is swelling from the dehydration, even walking across a room makes you feel like you just ran a mile, and you have a strong feeling of derealization and wrongness, like everything is unfamiliar and nothing is real anymore. That was the worst part, the derealization. It's hard to describe but just know, it's a lonely, horrible feeling. And the tinnitus. It feels like someone is shocking your brain because of how loud the tinnitus is.

You seriously sound like an Erokid (the self-made portmanteau of "Erowid" and "kid" to effectively mean fucking retarded, inexperienced juvenile). Get out.

[jackiesbaby]

Originally Posted by &Zenith

What in the fuck? No... Just, no.



The best thing about it is that it isn't very harsh at all but still somewhat enjoyable.



4-FA bath salts? I swear, I have accrued two months of alcohol-induced brain damage and I still think some of you have a comparable IQ to that of my refrigerator's temperature in relation to my own. And seriously, did we need another one of these threads? Well... evidently we did but the search function and Google does wonders, I hope you all know.





You seriously sound like an Erokid (the self-made portmanteau of "Erowid" and "kid" to effectively mean fucking retarded, inexperienced juvenile). Get out.

Lol, someone's mad.

[Mashleshmash]

Zenith is never actually mad. Just enraged drinking.

[Jesus Stamos]

Originally Posted by Mashleshmash

Zenith is never actually mad. Just enraged drinking.

True facts. He's also IV champ along with me, turbo and komo.