Archived: Nutmeg: Revisited

[Ambient]

Originally Posted by shopping cart for brains

can't really put it into words, but nutmeg

went for a run while I was starting to 'come up' and the vividness of the forest was really sweet, felt like one of the first times i had ever gotten really stoned. later i went to a park with a bunch of friends and swung on a swingset, nutmeg stoned as fuck.

Exercise helps activate the good stuff in nutmeg.

[Sanzenbacher]

28g, three nuts in. Gonna eat them all for the hell of it.

Wondering if I should take some clonazapam or seroquel too, since nutmeg trips seem to be hit or miss.

[turboneger]

Originally Posted by Sanzenbacher

28g, three nuts in. Gonna eat them all for the hell of it.

Wondering if I should take some clonazapam or seroquel too, since nutmeg trips seem to be hit or miss.

lol, at 3 nuts was one of the most fucked up ive ever been

good luck bro

[Zombie Food]

If I'm gonna buy some nutmeg. What should I be looking for?

Price wise?
Ground or fresh?


Also, how much should I take?

How long will it last?

Effects?

How to prepare it?

I've never had nutmeg work for me.

[Sanzenbacher]

Originally Posted by turboneger

lol, at 3 nuts was one of the most fucked up ive ever been

good luck bro

lawl

Ate all 6. Woo.

[Zombie Food]

How did you prepare them?

[Xlite]

Originally Posted by Sanzenbacher

lawl

Ate all 6. Woo.

You trippin bra?

[Zombie Food]

Damnit, someone help me here so I can trip balls too

[Sanzenbacher]

Originally Posted by Zombie Food

If I'm gonna buy some nutmeg. What should I be looking for?

Price wise?
Ground or fresh?


Also, how much should I take?

How long will it last?

Effects?

How to prepare it?

I've never had nutmeg work for me.

1) Price. Like 3 dollars or so. The ones I got were fresh(er), and local ($3.22). The ones you get in McCormick and shit are OK but not as good as fresh ones. I wonder if I could ever find nutmeg at a farmer's market to ensure freshness...?

Always try going for whole nuts IMO, though powder does work for some people (purportedly).

2) Dosage depends. 10-15g is beginner or a typical dose. Most people don't suggest going above 20g, 25g. I simply don't give a fuck, and just ate the whole pack 28g. They say it's actually low doses that give you a nice, mellow, calm, stoned feeling, whereas higher doses cause lethargy, apathy, delirium (it is a delirant, after all), etc.

From the FAQ:

THRESHOLD (3-5 grams or 1-1.5 tsp) A threshold dose of nutmeg is marked by euphoria, relaxation, mood elevation, hilarity and enhancement of the senses. Baseline is around hour eighteen. Some people will not experience effects at this level.

LOW--MODERATE (6-10 grams or 1.5-3 tsp) A low-moderate dose of nutmeg will produce a more distinct effect than a threshold dose, and may cause visual distortions, closed-eye visuals, and auditory hallucinations. Short-term memory may become impaired and speech may become slightly slurred during the peak of a low-moderate dose.

MODERATE (11-15 grams or 1-1.5 Tbsp) A moderate dose of nutmeg can cause slurred speech, disorientation, and loss of coordination. Previously stated effects increase and the user may experience mild visual phenomenon.

MODERATE-HIGH (16-20 grams or 1.5-2 Tbsp) A moderate-high dose may produce a waking dream-like state. One individual sought emergency room services after ingesting 15-20 grams of nutmeg. The user reported experiencing trouble breathing, blackouts, delusions, and panic (Marquis 2006).

HIGH (20-25 grams or 2-2.5 Tbsp) A high dose may increase the perception of being in a dream world. Users may begin experiencing stomach pain.

NOT RECOMMENDED (25+ grams or 2.5+ Tbsp) Doses this high usually will not increase the psychoactive effects of nutmeg, but will likely increase the length of the trip and thus will take longer to recover from. Physical discomforts such as stomach pain, abnormally rapid heartbeat, nausea, and dizziness tend to increase. Vomiting seldom occurs. User may experience trouble breathing or trouble urinating. Users may also become delusional. Out of sixty-six individuals who reported taking more than 25 grams of nutmeg, 17% reported having a difficult experience and 45% of these sought emergency room care. The average dose for those reporting negative effects was between 29 and 30 grams, though the median dose was only 25 grams. The average dose for those seeking ER care was 47.5 grams, while the median dose was 52.5 grams. With the variability in potency of nutmeg, some samples might require a high dose to produce a moderate effect, but one should be extremely familiar with the potency of his or her material before taking a high or not-recommended dose.

3) Thing about nutmeg is, it takes a good 3-6 hours to come up, and can last anywhere from like 12-24 hours or more. Some people say it has lasted them 30+ hours. If you take a high dose, make damn sure you don't have anywhere to be for the next day, since you'll be hard pressed to even walk in a straight line.

From the FAQ:

THRESHOLD STAGE (hours 1-4): The major effects of nutmeg generally do not take effect until the fourth hour after ingestion. However, nutmeg produces subtle effects within the first hour, and the effects rise in waves over the next three hours until inebriation takes hold. These effects are often written off as placebo due to their mild nature, but the changes are noticeably distinct. Generally these threshold effects are experienced as a combination of feeling energetic and yet markedly relaxed at the same time. One may perceive changes in pressure in the head, changes which are usually interpreted as either light-headedness or the beginnings of a headache. The effects experienced in this stage are otherwise similar to those caused by a pint or two of good beer, depending on dosage.

INITIAL INEBRIATION (hours 4-8): The truly inebriating properties of nutmeg generally take hold within the fourth or fifth hour following consumption. By this time cotton mouth has set in and the eyes have become bloodshot. The inebriation takes on a strong alcohol/marijuana-like buzz, which continues to rise in waves, and concentration becomes difficult. The senses become enhanced and hilarity tends to set in. This is followed by the onset of closed-eye visuals, time distortion, and the beginnings of slurred speech. Reality may take on a dream-like nature during this stage.

PEAK INEBRIATION (hours 8-12): The peak generally sets in around the eighth or ninth hour following ingestion and usually continues for three or four hours. At this point the user may experience auditory hallucinations, closed-eye visuals and possibly mild open-eye visuals, including walls breathing and disturbances in the peripheral vision. The user's speech may become slurred and he or she may experience loss of coordination similar to drunkenness.

END OF PEAK (hours 13-18): Around the thirteenth hour it usually becomes apparent that the peak is over and the user might feel a slight letting up in the effects. The effects decrease slowly, and usually do so in waves, much like the onset.

RESIDUAL INEBRIATION (hours 19-25): By hour nineteen the main inebriating effects of nutmeg have generally worn off. The user will probably still feel moderately stoned for the next seven or eight hours. Some report feeling weak and tired by this point in the trip. Those who sleep during this stage may find their dreams to be exceptionally vivid and easy to recall upon waking. Hangover effects may set in for those who forget to remain hydrated.

FINAL STAGE-BASELINE (hours 26-32): By hour thirty-two most users will be more or less back to baseline. The user will likely continue to feel relaxed, perhaps slightly stoned, and may continue to experience difficulty concentrating for another day or two.

Originally Posted by Zombie Food

How did you prepare them?

4) Effects: Low doses = inebriation semi-like being stoned, calmness, sensitivity to music and light
Higher: Confusion, Disorientation, hallucinations

The above about duration goes into effects, as does the dosage.

5) I just eat them whole. I chew them up just enough that I can toss and wash, similar to Kratom. Works for me. Though many others grind them, put them in juice, milk, ice cream, etc. Preference really. I just think that adding it to anything makes the taste much more noticeable. Only takes 5 seconds to mash them into a paste in your mouth and wash with a drink such as cola or root beer.

Originally Posted by Xlite

You trippin bra?

Not yet. Noticing a light head, music sounding a bit cooler, body high. I took them at around 11 PM, so it's been about 4 hours. Hoping that when I fall asleep, I'll wake up and be stoned as fuck.

[Sanzenbacher]

Originally Posted by Zombie Food

Damnit, someone help me here so I can trip balls too

Sorry, bud. Meant to link to the aforementioned "FAQ", though it's actually just an article written about it, it's informative.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/nutmeg/...article1.shtml

Also, always helps to check out some experiences from erowid:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Nutmeg.shtml

And then just the general overview, with links to whatever you want to know (and then some):
http://www.erowid.org/plants/nutmeg/

Though, I'm sure you know about erowid, just thought I'd link you, since I'm no expert. I just know how it affects me personally.

Good luck, pal.

[Zombie Food]

Thank you


I'd literally thank you but I have none

[Sanzenbacher]

Originally Posted by Zombie Food

Thank you


I'd literally thank you but I have none

Not a problem, my man.

[Sanzenbacher]

I'll thank you for being such a kind audience.

[Sanzenbacher]

You too, Xlite.

Thanks all around!

Fucking Frank Ocean, hell yeah.

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[Xlite]

Originally Posted by Sanzenbacher

You too, Xlite.

Thanks all around!

Fucking Frank Ocean, hell yeah.

Frank Ocean - Novacane - YouTube

Feels good bro.

I really wanna try this, but can't seem to get any near my place.

[Sanzenbacher]

Not really sure how I feel...I haven't went to sleep since taking them.

I notice the small "hallucinations" such as breathing walls, my IM client sometimes seems to flash as if I have an incoming message, but no incoming message was sent. Sensitivity to light and sound. Body feels heavier, but it's not debilitating. I can still get up and walk around, but I feel weighed down. I'm hungry, but I doubt it's because of the effects of the nutmeg, probably just because I haven't eaten anything in ~18 hours, and even that was small.

I'll keep you updated with any changes.

[Sanzenbacher]

Quick moving "objects" sometimes they resemble flies or flying bugs, other times they look like a flash of some shadow demon or something quickly trying to get out of my sight and hide, but I'm afraid of them. It seems normal, which from what I recall is what part of nutmeg effects are?

Like you can go in and out of delusions and not notice any transition.

[Ambient]

By the twentieth century, the popularity of nutmeg as a spice subsided and stabilized. Around this time it became rumored that nutmeg was an effective abortifacient. This use offered the West its first glimpses into the narcotic properties of nutmeg, as a number of young women became delirious after using large quantities of nutmeg to induce miscarriages (Kalbhen 1971).

uh-waa

While the use of nutmeg as an aphrodisiac in Europe does not appear to have been well-known or widespread, several examples exist. William Salmon, a seventeenth century Englishman writing in 1693, described a self-experiment in which nutmeg oil rubbed on the genitals produced sexual excitation (Rudgley 1998, citing Salmon 1693). Most peculiar, perhaps, is an old German folk tradition in which a girl would swallow a nutmeg whole, collect the intact nut after it passed, and then powder and mix it in the food of her beloved. Doing such was supposed to cause the man in question to fall deeply in love with the girl (Rätsch 2005).

WTF.

[Xlite]

Moar updates please. How do you feel?

[Duke Zion]

Bump.

Third time is a charm, I actually am having a good time with no nausea.

Took the ground shit so its kind of weak but I took allot. about 20 grams if not more