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Recently there has been a new victory in the ongoing, undermanned, and heavily justified war on water fluoridation in the southwest United States. The city of Albuquerque, New Mexico has made the auspicious decision to effectively end all artificial water fluoridation within the city’s water supply. It was reported first by local news authority, KOB news channel 4, earlier this month that the city, in order to save money and consequently save the over half million local population from the many detrimental effects of fluoride in the water supply, had removed the addition entirely.

Though many residents are concerned about the potential for increased amount of tooth decay (which fluoride has been shown to be ineffective against), this is a major victory for the nation of people convinced that the hazardous bi-product of fertilizer is an unhealthful, worthless toxin. Many of the citizens, however, do not realize that the fluoride in the water supply isn’t even what actually benefits the genesis of our bone structure.

Fluoride exists solely as a method of preventing tooth decay, but is there really a benefit to even reap? The answer, in short, is no; recent studies have gone to show that the ‘fluoride’ used to medicate the masses is actually a very serious health risk. Shane Ellison, M. Sc., states that the fluoride present in the water supply assaults many structural formations within the body, such as tendons, bones, cartilage, and blood vessels. Fluoride has also been shown to cause many metaphysical risks, such as lowered IQ or brain damage, thyroid disorders, disruption of hormonal cycles, and even causing developmental problems in children if taken from a young age. Is it any wonder that bills have arisen requiring warning labels for infants over the harmful effects of fluoride in the tap?

And why, exactly, is the city employing "caution" in the matter? First, the fluoride that continues to be added to many water supplies across America is not actually fluoride at all. It is either sodium fluoride, sodium fluorosilicate, or fluorosilicic acid, all of which are highly-toxic, industrial waste byproducts with no scientifically demonstrable health benefits.

Fluoride is also a known mutagen, or something that virulently mutates the DNA and leading to cancer. In 1977, it was even shown that water fluoridation caused about 10,000 cancer deaths in epidemiological studies by Dr. Dean Burk, former head of the Cytochemistry Section at the National Cancer Institute and Yiamouyiannis


http://naturalsociety.com/albuquerqu...-fluoridation/

www.kob.com/article/stories/S2577925.shtml


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Regular consumption of raw, grass-fed butter and dairy products can also help prevent the development of cavities, according to research conducted by the late Weston Price, a dentist whose nutritional protocols have helped many people improve their health and mitigate disease
http://www.naturalnews.com/031477_teeth_cavities.html

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It's time to retire fluoridation because it doesn't work, wastes money and is harmful to health. Drinking it to prevent tooth decay is like drinking sunscreen to prevent sunburn.

Fluoride is neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth. It is one of the most poisonous substances on Earth. No adult has ever walked out of their doctor's office with a prescription for the fluoride drug because the body has no known use for it. The industrial toxic waste fluoride used (Hexafluorosilicic acid) cures nothing and heals nothing and has never been tested or approved by FDA (in the USA) as safe and effective for human ingestion. The company CEO would be arrested immediately if they dumped their toxic waste fluoride into a river. The only way they can do it legally is to run it through the community drinking water system first. It is an absolute insane condition.
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Of course, the little fluoride pills are a much smaller proposition than drinking gallons of water per day or week, as well as taking baths in and washing your automobile in it;watering your lawns. That's a very massive thing compared to brushing teeth with fluoridated toothpaste.
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Yiamouyiannis documents research showing that fluoride increases the tumor growth rate by 25% at only 1 ppm, produces melanotic tumors, transforms normal cells into cancer cells and increases the carcinogenesis of other chemicals. For the original references to these studies, refer to Yiamouyiannis’ pamphlet, Lifesavers Guide to Fluoridation.

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Other research resurfaced by Dr. Dean Burk, former chief of cytochemistry at the National Cancer Institute for 30 years, also shows that fluoride increases the cancer death rate. Dr Burk refers to a study conducted which compares the 10 largest U.S. cities with fluoridation and the 10 largest without. What researchers found was that following fluoridation, deaths from cancer went up immediately- in as little as a year.

To reduce fluoride levels to a the greatest degree, activists must demand that the government stop fluoridating the water supplies. Water fluoridation has not only been linked to an increased cancer risk, but a decreased IQ in children. In fact, the findings forced the government to call for lower fluoridation levels nationwide. Until water fluoridation comes to a halt, the easiest way to reduce fluoride exposure is to invest in a reverse osmosis water filtration system. Drinking distilled water for 3-6 months may also reduce the soft tissue fluoride levels, but not bone levels. Soft tissue fluoride levels cause the greatest health problems.

Cancer/Death > No fluoride for teeth And by teeth I mean bones, because we all know teeth are in the stomach.


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Fluoridated tap water and toothpaste are oftentimes considered the main sources of fluoride exposure, but it turns out that common food items could actually be largely contributing to your fluoride intake. According to fluoride expert Jeff Green, who has been actively protesting and studying the effects of fluoride on the body for other 15 years, one common food product contains up to 180 times more fluoride than your fluoridated tap water!
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While Green states that a large number of non-organic produce items can contain shocking levels of this fluoride-based pesticide, iceberg lettuce may be one of the largest offenders. In fact, iceberg lettuce can now be laced with a startling 180 parts per million (ppm) of fluoride – 180 times higher than the ‘recommended’ water fluoridation level. This ‘health’ food could actually be corroding your body with heavy levels of fluoride. But what other seemingly-healthy produce items contain high amounts of fluoride?

Citrus fruits are actually allowed to contain 95 ppm’s of sodium fluoride.
Potatoes can have as much as 22 ppm’s on the outside, and 2 ppm inside.
Raisins are allowed 55 ppm’s.

Fluoride has been linked to decreased IQ in children, and even the United States government is calling for lower levels of fluoride to be added to United States water supplies. Perhaps the next big hurdle in the fight against fluoride will be within the food industry.
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Fluoride has substantial benefits in the prevention of tooth decay. There have been countless studies which show that flouridation of water is one of the simplest and most cost effective ways to improve oral health. Claims that it causes cancer are mostly exaggerated. Fuck off OP nobody wants to hear your hippie bullshit.
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No. That's all lies you've been fed to. It's a toxin, it works by being in contact with teeth, it works on smooth surfaces, and it doesn't actually even work.

Even if it does work. It's forced medication. And the doses are not regulated, as in baby's get 3-4 times as much.

So EVEN IF you are right in entirety. Then this is still a very DANGEROUS introduction of medication into society. There is no need. Simply put.

For instance, you already rub it on your teeth with toothpaste which is the only actual reasonable use, even if you are right.

Why have it in the water? Going through your skin? In the food? And in pills, in toothpastes and from the dentist? As well as other medications which induce similar situations in the brain.

It bio-accumulates because in all the time your body has been here it has no reasonable means to remove the poison. Simply put, because there is no reasonable means to actually get it into your system, unless you've been tricked.

It was dumped and considered toxic waste a few years ago, and now it's in your body. It is a by product of industry.

EVEN IF, you are right, which you are obviously not, then you are being mass medicated without regulatory measures for YOUR safety.


If you don't have a inkling, then you are not and have no desire to be, in control of your life and what goes into your body.

Lastly, you say there are positive effects, yet just a little too much weakens bones, causes fluoridosis and oh yea, bio-accumulation in the brain/pineal gland.

No coincidence, some people just like to be slaves.
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Cancer is caused by a multitude of different factors. Genetics are usually the biggest factor. Flouride alone can't cause cancer to happen. It's health risks are minimal and it's benefits are indisputable. If we should get rid of anything that has the potential to cause cancer then we would have to ban almost everything. What you are doing is fear mongering.
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Cancer is caused by a multitude of different factors. Genetics are usually the biggest factor. Flouride alone can't cause cancer to happen. It's health risks are minimal and it's benefits are indisputable. If we should get rid of anything that has the potential to cause cancer then we would have to ban almost everything. What you are doing is fear mongering.
Close, but not really. Many suffer, cancer is a form of toxic build up with no way out.

Tribes don't get cancer or the diseases of the west, they die of old age in their sleep.
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To sum up the actual news article with out ate's complete fucking lies:

Albuquerque has sufficient fluoride in the water to meet the EPA/CDC recommended levels, so they don't need a water fluoridation program. It has nothing to do with safety (since water fluoridation is proven to be safe). In fact, the news article cites a dentist saying that it's safe, and the municipal government says that if the EPA/CDC ever increases the recommended levels they will meet them artificially.


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luoride is no longer being added to Albuquerque's drinking water. City officials argued supplemental fluoride is not necessary to meet current standards, but a local dentist said they should think twice.

"It is virtually indisputable that fluoride reduces, drastically reduces, the incidents of tooth decay in the general population," Dr. Paul Dunn said.

In the past few decades, Dunn said the number of patients he sees with dental problems, from tooth aches to cavities, has dramatically decreased.

"A lot of this is due to municipal water fluoridation," Dunn said.


Dollar for dollar, Dunn said supplemental water fluoridation is the single most cost-effective public health measure to reduce dental disease, but it is something Albuquerque residents will no longer be receiving when taking a sip of water from the tap.

"We're going to err on the side of caution," said David Morris, with the Water Authority.

Morris said under current standards, they do not need to add fluoride to Albuquerque's water. "People need to understand that fluoride occurs naturally in our water and we're achieving the level, 0.7 parts per million, that is right in-line with what is being recommended right now with C.D.C (Center for Disease Control) and E.P.A. (Environmental Protection Agency)."

But some residents are worried about the potential health impact.

"It's fluoride; you need that stuff for your teeth, enamel and all the stuff that fights cavities," one man said.

Morris said residents were notified about the change in a recent Albuquerque Bernalillo County Water Utility Authority newsletter, but said that supplemental fluoride has not been added to city water for more than a year now.

The CDC and EPA are expected to put out a new recommended fluoride level sometime this year.

At that time, they will re-evaluate their decision and make adjustments accordingly, Morris said.
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Man, this bullshit about fluoride is just the usual fear mongering and paranoid babbling. As was mentioned, they do it to prevent tooth decay. If it didn't work, i don't think they'd be putting it in toothpaste and shit, that's ridiculous. I don't actually have fluoride in my water, but it's definitely not going to be in high enough amounts to fuck with you. If you really considered all of the chemicals that you are exposed to on a daily basis, you'd realize how insignificant a little fluoride in your water is. The flame retardant in your sofa is a carcinogen and is absorbed by the body. I heard on the radio today that chemicals from plastics are absorbed into the body (specifically boobs) and cause cancer. There is literally so much toxic shit out there that there's no way to really protect yourself from all of it, unless you want to live like a hermit in the middle of nowhere. Fluoride isn't shit, and it's not the source of the voices in your head.
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Close, but not really. Many suffer, cancer is a form of toxic build up with no way out.

Tribes don't get cancer or the diseases of the west, they die of old age in their sleep.
Nigga, you just went full retard.
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Nigga, you just went full retard.
Just? Ate went full retard ages ago.
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hey do it to prevent tooth decay. If it didn't work, i don't think they'd be putting it in toothpaste and shit
You drink toothpaste, right?
You are accepting mass medication without any proof of what it is.
There is other proof, the bones and teeth of those who received too much fluoride as a child.
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about fluoride is just the usual fear mongering and paranoid babbling.
To blindly accept mass medication without any other reason than they told takes the power and decision away from yourself and places it in the hands of people you don't even know, blindly.
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If you really considered all of the chemicals that you are exposed to on a daily basis, you'd realize how insignificant a little fluoride in your water is.
Like what chemicals that bio-accumulate inside your skull and cannot be removed by the body naturally?
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The flame retardant in your sofa is a carcinogen and is absorbed by the body.
Yes, the more natural the better. Why does anyone need so many manufactured, died, mass produced goods?
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I heard on the radio
Lol, research what dentists and Dr.'s say in all fields on this subject..
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today that chemicals from plastics are absorbed into the body (specifically boobs) and cause cancer.
So basically you're being poisoned but you cannot create the connection between that and death. Hmmmm.
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There is literally so much toxic shit out there that there's no way to really protect yourself from all of it, unless you want to live like a hermit in the middle of nowhere.
There is way, it's called not drinking the kool-aid.
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Fluoride isn't shit, and it's not the source of the voices in your head.
Fluoride is a grave danger to all your people, and the source of my voice is my self and my own experience. The source of your voice is something that draws your attention outside yourself and makes excuses for what is within you. There are no excuses.
Man-made poisons, everywhere or not, you must avoid them or suffer.
Yes, go take a few fluoride pills and chew them up, see how it feels.
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You must be really innocent if you believe this is true, and even if it is, most tribesmen had a very short life expetancy. Never in the history of mankind has life expectancy been so high as today.
You have been lied to:

All the fluoride in the world...will give you fluorosis. Not a smile like that. That's nature.
When the diet is complete, as well as the lifestyle (IE natural) there is only healing and progression, that is the way of life.
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Fluoride is naturally in the water
No, this fluoride that is from the industrial process, essentially poisonous toxic waste is not in the water.
Yes, they have been getting fluoride removed, and they are re-examining the whole situation, because it's based upon fear mongering and lies.
For instance, fluoride is good for you, you need it, yet your body doesn't know how to get rid of it.
Yes, your body needs something that bio-accumulates and poisons your bones and organs, collects in the brain and weakens bones and causes fluoridosis.
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ate took one hit and became enlightened.
I took many "journeys" to the "other side" of fluorosis beginning when I was a little boy.
From then on you can see the world is full of toxins.
And that is why everyone is insane and emotionally imbalanced.
You can see that there is a center piece of love within all of us that cannot die, we can drown it out and block it out, but it stays forever.

When you reconnect with that, through all the trauma of the physical experience you experience emotion that goes beyond all boundary.

Ultimately, this becomes knowledge and yes you can figure out the world by looking within your own mind. So to speak.

And yes, all these toxins, chemicals and distractions are literally there, only to keep you from doing just that. There is no pathway, no ticket, no price tag. You simply focus and accept what you are, let go of ego and your experience unfolds. Within. EXPERIENCE WITHIN.

Stay out in the world, seek external stimulation, allow others to think and make the decisions that shape your brain, body and life for you.. and you will continue to experience separation from the self, emotional imbalance and ultimately disconnection from nature and the world itself.

People live in a fantasy world to poison their bodies and mind with so many unnatural substances and make no connection to the death, disease and imbalance that is every where on this planet.

The tribes are not doing this.

And yes, western medicine lets you live another 10-20 years in agony as you die. You basically die slower.

If they were as smart as nature, they would have the youthful 20-30 year olds still pushing hard, strong and able to handle their own in nature.

Instead, you have disconnected 20-30 year olds who introduce toxins into their bodies and then suffer and spend money trying to stay alive later on in life.

That is the game, you are not winning if you play it that way. Why?

Because natural life is much easier and the rewards are actual.

But this is not a debate about whether western science has saved the world by prolonging life. Sure, there are many ways to survive by cutting something out of your body.

You do that.

Then the tribes will just eat healthy and stay active. Without having to pay anyone or poison the world. It's a game, it's all a game, it's the way people make money.

No one makes money when you grow your own food and eat healthy, avoiding toxins. You literally cut that system short and the reward is a full life.

The more materials, required medical chemicals and operations, money and toxins, the more suffering. Period. Why go through all that?

And finally, if someone doesn't want to be medicated and wants shitty teeth, shouldn't that be their decision?

Is it that important that people's teeth are healthy?

Then why isn't health so big an issue that millions of dollars are spent to provide something to you, anywhere else in life?

Because it's mass, unwarranted medication. It bio-accumulates and your body cannot get it out and even if it was for teeth, you would rub it on the smooth surfaces.

Sure, there may be some prevention of cavities but the toxicity level is too high, it bio-accumulates. Plus. Once again.

Why not just live and eat healthy?
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You could do better. I pretty much guarantee it. But no refund.

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No, I get the out of body "DMT" god experience when I meditate. You can too if you allow yourself. Let go of ego instead of fighting and making excuses and you will feel yourself. You are connected to everything else, through your consciousness.
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Not so much, it was when I was younger and extremely sensitive. So basically I can get that anyway.

Like lucid dreaming for me doesn't require practice, I only have to think it.

Similarly with the third eye, this literally, this glowing explosion of a tangible liquid light in the brain/center of the forehead. If you think it, it will begin to manifest via the action of your focus. Which is really not an action at all if you think about it.
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I took many "journeys" to the "other side" of fluorosis beginning when I was a little boy.
From then on you can see the world is full of toxins.
And that is why everyone is insane and emotionally imbalanced.
You can see that there is a center piece of love within all of us that cannot die, we can drown it out and block it out, but it stays forever.

When you reconnect with that, through all the trauma of the physical experience you experience emotion that goes beyond all boundary.

Ultimately, this becomes knowledge and yes you can figure out the world by looking within your own mind. So to speak.

And yes, all these toxins, chemicals and distractions are literally there, only to keep you from doing just that. There is no pathway, no ticket, no price tag. You simply focus and accept what you are, let go of ego and your experience unfolds. Within. EXPERIENCE WITHIN.

Stay out in the world, seek external stimulation, allow others to think and make the decisions that shape your brain, body and life for you.. and you will continue to experience separation from the self, emotional imbalance and ultimately disconnection from nature and the world itself.

People live in a fantasy world to poison their bodies and mind with so many unnatural substances and make no connection to the death, disease and imbalance that is every where on this planet.

The tribes are not doing this.

And yes, western medicine lets you live another 10-20 years in agony as you die. You basically die slower.

If they were as smart as nature, they would have the youthful 20-30 year olds still pushing hard, strong and able to handle their own in nature.

Instead, you have disconnected 20-30 year olds who introduce toxins into their bodies and then suffer and spend money trying to stay alive later on in life.

That is the game, you are not winning if you play it that way. Why?

Because natural life is much easier and the rewards are actual.

But this is not a debate about whether western science has saved the world by prolonging life. Sure, there are many ways to survive by cutting something out of your body.

You do that.

Then the tribes will just eat healthy and stay active. Without having to pay anyone or poison the world. It's a game, it's all a game, it's the way people make money.

No one makes money when you grow your own food and eat healthy, avoiding toxins. You literally cut that system short and the reward is a full life.

The more materials, required medical chemicals and operations, money and toxins, the more suffering. Period. Why go through all that?

And finally, if someone doesn't want to be medicated and wants shitty teeth, shouldn't that be their decision?

Is it that important that people's teeth are healthy?

Then why isn't health so big an issue that millions of dollars are spent to provide something to you, anywhere else in life?

Because it's mass, unwarranted medication. It bio-accumulates and your body cannot get it out and even if it was for teeth, you would rub it on the smooth surfaces.

Sure, there may be some prevention of cavities but the toxicity level is too high, it bio-accumulates. Plus. Once again.

Why not just live and eat healthy?
I read all of this and now I'm enlightened.
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Ostensible retard.

You think you're so clairvoyant, don't you?

OP is a vapid cunt and his death would allow me to live in peace for eternity.

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Thanks.

vapid cunt.

I remember that from something. What's the point of living forever if you still have to spend time on cheeseburgers?
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