Official B&E Thread

[¤Tømmÿ Ver¢ettî¤]

I've been thinking about this lately so I decided to start a thread. I hope to get alot of feedback and helpful posts. So everyone come and share any valuable information you have on this topic.

Here's my thoughts...

Community Events-
(This works best in a smaller town, or if you know alot of people around town)
Find out when the next event in your town is. Try to find out who will be attending the event. Go to their house about 10 minutes after the even is scheduled to start. (have a friend come to help you load stuff up) Look for the best place to park (like around back of the house, or near a door that neighbors can't see very well) Break in and load up everything you want. Drive back to your house, unload, and hit up the next place.
(License plate switching might also be a good idea, just to be safe)

Holidays-
Same basic idea as the community events;
Find out who will be gone for the holiday, break in at night and clean the place out.

I haven't came up with many ideas how to figure out who will be gone, but I do have one method that will work, but it requires spending a bit of cash, and I only recommend this method if you plan on taking A LOT of stuff from their houses in order to make profit. So basically, this is only for BIG TIME thieves.

1st you will need a friend to be in on it with you. Get some realistic police uniforms, and right before the holidays start, go around the nicer neighborhoods and go door to door and casually ask people if they plan on leaving town for the holidays, and if they say yes, say something like "Well remember to lock all your doors and windows before you leave, the __ __PD (___ ___ Police Department) is trying to reduce the number of holiday house thefts be reminding home owners to secure their homes before leaving for the holidays."
Something professional sounding, and if they say they are leaving town, tell them that you and your partner will be sure to drive by the house every so often and make sure things are ok.

If you choose to do this there are a few things you may want to do to protect your identity:
1. Wear a wig (not a fucking clown wig, but something realistic and believable) If the home owners come back to find their house has been raided, the first thing they are going to do is call the cops, and tell them about the 2 cops that came before they left for the holidays.
2. A few weeks prior to pulling this off, grow out a nice mustache, then as soon as you have gone around to a bunch of houses, shave it off.
3.Colored contacts!! Not enough criminals use this simple little thing to help conceal their identity.
If the homeowners contact the police, the cops will 100% guaranteed have the people give them a description of the 2 fake cops.
If you have blonde hair, no mustache, and blue eyes, and you get a brown wig, grow a mustache, and have green colored contact lenses, you're just about 100% safe.


One of the simplest B&E methods is to park your car somewhere, like at the end of a block, and just watch down the block for someone to load the family up and leave. This can be very risky, because you don't know how long they will be gone for, so it's best to do it around meal time, so there is a better chance that they will be gone for a little while.


Lets get this thread buzzing and hopefully eventually it will get archived and possibly Spec. will sticky it.

[spiralds123]

I heard about this group of guys who went to a community dance. While talking to the DJ they took the keys to the place and came back later on and took all the money the community center made from the dance. I heard it was $150.87. They also took some candy from the cupboards. Not exactly a huge pull, but it counts. Not exactly the definition of a B & E either, but in this day and age, opening an unlocked door counts as a B & E if it's not your door.

[Bender]

Proper B&E requires lots of planning, and a plan, B, C, D, ect.
IMO, and B&E can yield way more profit than a bank job, considering risk vs reward, and chances of being caught. If you do your homework on alarms, and stake a place out you can easily yield a 15k-30k job. And that doesn't including finding the keys to the second car.

[DaSkipper]

You stole that idea about being a cop from Home Alone. THATS NOT YOUR IDEA

[ILTST]

Protip: Download google earth and use it to plan out entrance and escape routes.

[Raziel]

Originally Posted by Pandoras Assassin

Proper B&E requires lots of planning, and a plan, B, C, D, ect.

A perfect plan needs no alternatives.

Originally Posted by ILTST

Protip: Download google earth and use it to plan out entrance and escape routes.

Protip, use maps instead.

[Raziel]

(Maps.google.com)

[Combat Womabt]

Saw this in hot topics, and was hoping this was an Official Bacon and Eggs thread.

[¤Tømmÿ Ver¢ettî¤]

Originally Posted by Combatwomabt

Saw this in hot topics, and was hoping this was an Official Bacon and Eggs thread.

As much as I wanna yell at you for being a troll....
I gotta admit that's pretty funny.... and I'm now hungry for bacon and eggs... jackass. lol

[Combat Womabt]

Originally Posted by tommy_vercetti

As much as I wanna yell at you for being a troll....
I gotta admit that's pretty funny.... and I'm now hungry for bacon and eggs... jackass. lol

Wasn't really trollin. Just being honest. Anyways, I'm out of this thread.

[Bender]

A perfect plan needs no alternatives.

I don't believe in perfect. And facing either years in jail, or thousands of dollars, I wouldn't be so naive to make a back up plan or two.

[legganator]

Can anyone point me in the right direction on what to take that is easily resellable. and where to sell it at?

[ILTST]

Originally Posted by legganator

Can anyone point me in the right direction on what to take that is easily resellable. and where to sell it at?

Craigslist.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by legganator

Can anyone point me in the right direction on what to take that is easily resellable. and where to sell it at?

Stay away from antiques, rugs, guns, swords and other things of that nature if you don't know what to do with them. If I were ever to do a B&E, I'd take electronics, coins, jewelry, and cash (duh!!). Jewelry must be observed thoroughly for unique traits such as monograms and personal inscriptions that can be used to ID to whom they originally belonged. These things must be fixed before being sold.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5829568_remo...g-jewelry.html

The serial numbers on electronics must be carefully removed as well. If something can't be proven to NOT be yours beyond the slightest shadow of a doubt, then it's yours!

[ysr2096]

Originally Posted by tachosomoza

The serial numbers on electronics must be carefully removed as well. If something can't be proven to NOT be yours beyond the slightest shadow of a doubt, then it's yours!

So separate yourself from it during resale. Serial number removed is suspicious too. It's an item of the same type, modified to obscure its origins and you can't say where it came from; that's enough to prosecute you on. You don't even know if the owner recorded the serial number.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by ysr2096

So separate yourself from it during resale. Serial number removed is suspicious too. It's an item of the same type, modified to obscure its origins and you can't say where it came from; that's enough to prosecute you on. You don't even know if the owner recorded the serial number.

It still wouldn't be worth it to take the risk that someone did record it. ASSumptions are what bring people down in this line of work. People buy things that have been modified all the time on the Internet. It's called e-fencing, look it up! Yes, separation during resale would be the best way to realize profit from hot goods.

[ysr2096]

Originally Posted by tachosomoza

It still wouldn't be worth it to take the risk that someone did record it. ASSumptions are what bring people down in this line of work. People buy things that have been modified all the time on the Internet. It's called e-fencing, look it up! Yes, separation during resale would be the best way to realize profit from hot goods.

You're assuming that people record their serial numbers. To the police, though, an item with serial numbers removed is as good as stolen. If the theft was reported, it isn't going to take much for them to put two and two together. Take the effort to remove the serial numbers if you like, but you're wasting your time.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by ysr2096

You're assuming that people record their serial numbers. To the police, though, an item with serial numbers removed is as good as stolen. If the theft was reported, it isn't going to take much for them to put two and two together. Take the effort to remove the serial numbers if you like, but you're wasting your time.

Alright, Oz, sell something with a serial number on it and come back and tell us all about it, OK? Like I said, remove the serial number and sell it online. Yes, a filed off serial number is indicative of something being hotter than Hades, but not as much as a serial number that's been recorded. Like I said, if you cam show that something is not not yours, then it's yours! Something with a recorded serial number IS NOT YOURS!

Edit: Items with filed off serial numbers can't be sold on Craigslist.

[ysr2096]

My name is ysr2096. You'll address me as such if you know what's good for you, boy.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by ysr2096

My name is ysr2096. You'll address me as such if you know what's good for you, boy.

Your name is Oz, I've given everybody on Zok a nickname, if you didn't know.

[ysr2096]

Originally Posted by tachosomoza

Your name is Oz, I've given everybody on Zok a nickname, if you didn't know.

Fuck off, I don't even like this country. You can call me Nikola instead.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by ysr2096

fuck off, i don't even like this country. You can call me nikola instead.

Why nikola?

[theshadowfax]

Stop waving your e-dicks around and get back on the fucking topic you idiots.

Something else to look for on your B&E yet still be cautious about is firearms. They're a good way to make money selling them illegally, and depending on where you're at even alot of the nicer homes could have at least one nice gun for "home defense." My advise, although time consuming, is to only do one house per neighborhood. Why? Allows you more room and comfort per run. Don't limit yourself to things that seem flashy. If you see a moutain bike that you think you can carry out and put in your vehicle easily that looks like one of those $700 mountain bikes, go for it. Musical equipment and the amps, half stacks and all that to go with it also sells nicely and easily in most areas. If you get really lucky, you'll land yourself in one of those houses where the people keep a wall safe or something with cash, maybe hidden behind a decoration or just in their closet. If you've got the time/skill set, crack that thing open. If you find one in a house that you feel the people would keep their cash in a safe but don't have the time to stand there and crack a safe open, people rarely consider the wall around the safe as being a means for a thief to get their safe. Trust me though, drywall and the like busts open with a little help just like anything else. So bring a saw and some other tools just in case it's your lucky day.

Just be paranoid about it, don't leave anything to chance. If you honestly think there's a chance you'll get caught in the middle of the act, don't do it and pick another house. That shiny plasma screen isn't worth the time you'll do for planned out burglary.

[ysr2096]

Originally Posted by tachosomoza

Why nikola?

It's my name.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by theshadowfax

Stop waving your e-dicks around and get back on the fucking topic you idiots.

Something else to look for on your B&E yet still be cautious about is firearms. They're a good way to make money selling them illegally, and depending on where you're at even alot of the nicer homes could have at least one nice gun for "home defense." My advise, although time consuming, is to only do one house per neighborhood. Why? Allows you more room and comfort per run. Don't limit yourself to things that seem flashy. If you see a moutain bike that you think you can carry out and put in your vehicle easily that looks like one of those $700 mountain bikes, go for it. Musical equipment and the amps, half stacks and all that to go with it also sells nicely and easily in most areas. If you get really lucky, you'll land yourself in one of those houses where the people keep a wall safe or something with cash, maybe hidden behind a decoration or just in their closet. If you've got the time/skill set, crack that thing open. If you find one in a house that you feel the people would keep their cash in a safe but don't have the time to stand there and crack a safe open, people rarely consider the wall around the safe as being a means for a thief to get their safe. Trust me though, drywall and the like busts open with a little help just like anything else. So bring a saw and some other tools just in case it's your lucky day.

Just be paranoid about it, don't leave anything to chance. If you honestly think there's a chance you'll get caught in the middle of the act, don't do it and pick another house. That shiny plasma screen isn't worth the time you'll do for planned out burglary.

Oz started this shit, I try to avoid flame wars whenever possible. I agree with the strategy of hitting only one house per neighborhood/subdivision, simply because of the fact that novice serial burglars that go from door ro door often get themselves caught in a hurry through this method, along with the fact that they take the wrong things. They steal the "flashiest" items, and often get caught with the goods in their possession. When someone pulls a B&E, the rule is to get rid of the goods ASAP. Don't keep it for personal use, because you never know what can go down.

[skygear]

nice @ sig- If glory comes after death, I am not in a hurry.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by skygear

nice @ sig- If glory comes after death, I am not in a hurry.

Didn't know you knew latin sky!

[skygear]

jack of all trades and master of most! If I could get smacked by a chick that didn't speak english... I was game! Learned many languages over the years.

[Ioabs]

Its good to stake out coin and stamp shops, find serious collectors and follow them home, voila you now have a Target house with several thousand dollars of super liquid merch.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by Ioabs

Its good to stake out coin and stamp shops, find serious collectors and follow them home, voila you now have a Target house with several thousand dollars of super liquid merch.

Sure, but people with that shit are usually smart enough to have it put away in an inconspicuous location, along with having a pretty decent security system. Be sure to know what to do for each type, and be prepared to stay a while to sniff out the goodies, and how to dispose of 'em when they're in your possession. RESEARCH, that's the word!

[Needtoknow]

Originally Posted by theshadowfax

If you get really lucky, you'll land yourself in one of those houses where the people keep a wall safe or something with cash, maybe hidden behind a decoration or just in their closet. If you've got the time/skill set, crack that thing open.

For smaller safes I seriously recommend stealing the safe. When it is at home you have all the time in the world to crack it.

A GPS blocker may be good to invest in.

[Rice_banger]

what about gold , then getting it melted down to make something for your self etc ?

[the young one]

OOO sense we are giving nick names. Tachosomoza your now Taco. And Why would you do B&E on residential housing when commercial is more lucrative? I know taco has said that is past. there is very good film about commercial burglary on netflix, but i forget the name.

[Tachosomoza]

Originally Posted by the young one

OOO sense we are giving nick names. Tachosomoza your now Taco. And Why would you do B&E on residential housing when commercial is more lucrative? I know taco has said that is past. there is very good film about commercial burglary on netflix, but i forget the name.

It depends on the person. Some people feel more comfortable doing Residential to get their feet wet.

OT: You can call me whatever you want.

[Daily]

What people seem to overlook is if the homeowners leave their dogs behind when going out. Today, I had a dream where I got a tipoff on an empty house where the whole family would be out for 5-6 hours. I approached the house, and as usual, casually knocked on the door to confirm that the house is empty (if someone answers, ask if <insert random name> lives here, pretend you got the wrong house, apologize, whatever). Next thing that happened was a loud fucking bark, followed by fast shuffling sounds and continued with constant barks and growls and fucking howls. Obviously, I was taken aback and stepped a few feet back and observed the place. I could see over their fence that the door that connects the house to the garden was left open, so the dog could easily divide its time between both areas. This dog was obviously highly trained, as its owners were prepared to leave it alone in the house, not to mention its sharp response time to the unfamiliar noise at the front door. Obviously the barks resulted in a few curtains being pulled back from the houses opposite, and the dream concluded in me leaving empty handed.

[Rice_banger]

Originally Posted by Daily

What people seem to overlook is if the homeowners leave their dogs behind when going out. Today, I had a dream where I got a tipoff on an empty house where the whole family would be out for 5-6 hours. I approached the house, and as usual, casually knocked on the door to confirm that the house is empty (if someone answers, ask if <insert random name> lives here, pretend you got the wrong house, apologize, whatever). Next thing that happened was a loud fucking bark, followed by fast shuffling sounds and continued with constant barks and growls and fucking howls. Obviously, I was taken aback and stepped a few feet back and observed the place. I could see over their fence that the door that connects the house to the garden was left open, so the dog could easily divide its time between both areas. This dog was obviously highly trained, as its owners were prepared to leave it alone in the house, not to mention its sharp response time to the unfamiliar noise at the front door. Obviously the barks resulted in a few curtains being pulled back from the houses opposite, and the dream concluded in me leaving empty handed.

shattered , that would have been a wet dream come true

just curious what type of dog was it ?

[Lighter]

Originally Posted by Daily

...Next thing that happened was a loud fucking bark, followed by fast shuffling sounds and continued with constant barks and growls and fucking howls. Obviously, I was taken aback and stepped a few feet back and observed the place. I could see over their fence that the door that connects the house to the garden was left open, so the dog could easily divide its time between both areas. This dog was obviously highly trained, as its owners were prepared to leave it alone in the house, not to mention its sharp response time to the unfamiliar noise at the front door...

You must not own dogs because every dog I have owned has done that and they were never trained.

[Rice_banger]

Originally Posted by Lighter

You must not own dogs because every dog I have owned has done that and they were never trained.

care to teach us a bit about dogs ?

[Lighter]

Originally Posted by Rice_banger

care to teach us a bit about dogs ?

It'd be my pleasure.

A) Your best friends are steak and bones. If a house has a dog just throw the dog the steak or bones. Since most dogs aren't trained guard dogs you'll be fine.

B) Don't be intimated by dogs. Animals can sense your fear and will use it to further intimidate you. This is why dogs sometimes go crazy when they see some people and why they whimper and run away when they see others.

Some idiot broke into my house a few years ago. We thought our untrained guard dog (a Mastiff) would eat anyone that tried to break in. Our security camera showed the thief going through the house with the dog following him.

[Rice_banger]

Originally Posted by Lighter

It'd be my pleasure.

A) Your best friends are steak and bones. If a house has a dog just throw the dog the steak or bones. Since most dogs aren't trained guard dogs you'll be fine.

B) Don't be intimated by dogs. Animals can sense your fear and will use it to further intimidate you. This is why dogs sometimes go crazy when they see some people and why they whimper and run away when they see others.

Some idiot broke into my house a few years ago. We thought our untrained guard dog (a Mastiff) would eat anyone that tried to break in. Our security camera showed the thief going through the house with the dog following him.

ok thanks for that ,

ahh i always assumed bringing steak and bones would help , even for little lap dogs to quieten them down ( alot of houses here in my state have got neighbors really close by so would need to quieten it down

also for a vehicle , would parking it in back to front in a "standoff" position in there drive way-be appropriate with borrowed plates ?

also what to do if spotted my friend has got 2 vehicles would it be a smart idea to have his 2nd vehicle parked some where in a shopping center car park be a "smart" idea ?

my friend has got 2 vehicles , ones an older sedan late 90s , his other vehicle is a more roomy station wagon slightly newer more modern looking which one would be more appropriate?