UFO/abduction thread

[driveby]

This shit is kind of freaky. Every night, all night long, there are red, white, and blue flashing UFO's around in the sky. They are the size of stars, but then grow into extreemely bright balls of light. I've even had them come directly toward me, and go over my house. They also turn into orange lights.

[The Jitterskull]

Possible to take pictures? J/W

[Shaggy]

These are the results of an acid trip. It is advised you discontinue your use, unless you wish the UFO's to become permanent.

[SHARP]

They're called "airplanes", move away from the airport, and they shouldn't bother you again.

[pengd0t]

Do they move like airplanes or any other normal thing might fly through the sky?
Or do they move erratically and faster than seems possible... sudden 90 degree turns and that sort of thing.

[Flatland]

Originally Posted by SHARP

They're called "airplanes", move away from the airport, and they shouldn't bother you again.

There. Now they're IFO's.

[driveby]

Why don't you jack-offs fuck off, and post somewhere else?

[Flatland]

Just so you know, what you're describing sounds exactly as if you saw an airplane flying over your house. Unless you have made some other observations that distinguish your objects from airplanes... then logically, you're probably just seeing airplanes.

[driveby]

I didn't say there were 3 lights, a headlight, and wing lights, with a silver flashing light. I said they are fucking blue stars, which are rapidly flickering, and moving unlike stars. They turn into blue balls of light, with some red flashing on them. They slowly move. Sometimes they turn into dim, orange lights moving similar to planes, then when they come close, they are silent, and orange spheres. Or spheres flashing red, which look exactly like helicopter lights, before they come close. Also, bright orange balls of light, like the phoenix lights, which also come in green, purple, light yellow, red, and white(not incandescent, headlight white). Airplane headlights slowly fade, and become not visible when not coming straight for you, and you can see the silver flashing.

They also only fly in paths, and only turn on headlights, when approaching a city. If they are even slightly close, you can hear the fucking engine.

Sometimes, the UFO's try to look like plane headlights, and even hover near them, but they stay in place, and are not incandescent, but pale yellow. They move horizontally, and also the light flickers, when the planes don't. They also change to red, white and blue stars. I always see a light, disguised as a plane, either hovering over the old, japanese internment camp, or over the snaketown historical site. It flickers, and hovers, while other aircraft do not flicker(that would be twinkling), and they are pale yellow, with red, and other colors all flashing around in the light ball. They burn out like flares, or turn to red white, and blue stars, and move.

The most common obvious UFO's, are the orange, and red lights. They can usually be seen in the western sky from pinal county, and people think they are flares. Occasionally, red ones are seen in areas like over I-10. This was on the news in spring. No explanation.

I hope I made my side seem more competant. I am still pretty much on the normal side, so it is easier for me to combat the debunkers. I want this to be a comfortable place for people like dream of the iris, and even those who get abducted. I am involved, but still lead a normal life, unlike most involved, and that allows me to help keep the de-bunkers hit with competant responses.

EDIT: and I haven't captured the orange lights yet, and the other lights look like UFO's, but can not really be definatively defined in the video's I got. I also tried to get an orange light, and it faded out as soon as I grabbed my camera. The ones in formation, that they want everyone to see, I could probably get on video. I'm pretty sure if I invited them into my life, I could get more amazing video, but I am not going to become an abductee, to prove a point to you. I also may be able to get good video, if I go to the mountains between 7, and 8:30 in the evening.

EDIT ll: I'm also not putting enough emphasis on the diffrence between red. white, and blue stars, the airplane mimicing lights, and the multicolor lights.

The various colored lights will be noticable to anyone who sees them, and they will know it is a UFO.

The airplane mimic lights you will not notice, unless you pay attention.

The red, white, and blue stars, are stars, they just are there one minute, and gone the next, or they stay for a few hours, or they move across the sky slowly. I have seen them instantly brighten to brighter then venus, and slowly move toward me, while still being blue, flickering, and containing areas of red, and while moving around the sphere.

[SHARP]

Originally Posted by driveby

The various colored lights will be noticable to anyone who sees them, and they will know it is a UFO.

Seeing UFO's hppens all the time, the second you see something flying, but don't know what it is, it's a UFO, perhaps you'd like the definition explained?

Ok, here goes, the term "UFO" is an abbreviation for "Unidentified Flying Object", which means that if you saw a motorized rubber boot flying by, but couldn't recognize it for what it was, you'd have seen a "UFO"...
Granted, motorized rubber boots usually don't fly around, but when I think about, it might be worth building one just for fun.

BTW; how's it going with the videos, anything happening?

[driveby]

Another thread that just couldn't have survived without SHARP's necessary take on the subject.

[Dream of the iris]

This thread is for all UFO/Abduction related experiences. If you have anything to share, please do.

Anything from UFO sightings, to abduction experiences, to anything ET related.


NOTE: ANY OFF TOPIC/TROLL POSTS WILL GET YOU AN INFRACTION

This is a subject not really talked about and many find to be too insane to bring to the forefront of discussion, but I want people here to feel more comfortable coming forward with their experiences.


In my opinion, this is a real phenomena which deserves much more attention and people who ostracize/make fun of those who do have experiences are only revealing the extent of their own fear and programming.




I have one vivid UFO experience which I've described in past posts and have had some abduction experiences which I will talk about. I encourage all those who have experiences on this message board to come forward and share your story.

I'm doing this at the request of some members, but also to help piece together some missing pieces of the puzzle and help get a better understanding of the situation we are all in at this time.

You are all welcome to voice your opinions, but again, any troll posting will get you an immediate infraction.

[Powdered Toast Man please]

i dont believe in so many alien sightings and abductions and ill tell you why:

if aliens have the technology to travel light years across the universe, then they MUST have the technology to keep them selves from being seen. we already have shitty invisibility cloaks, and we havnt even put a person on mars yet. by the time a society advances to a point of interstellar space travel, i think they would at least have some sort of cloaking technology.

so i think that aliens will only be seen if they WANT to be seen, and youll only remember being abducted if they WANT you to. so why would they want you to? if they want to be seen and known why dont they just land and come out?

i do believe their are aliens out there though.

[Overman]

I was abducted by martians...

I don't want to talk about it though. And no, not trolling.

[Dream of the iris]

Originally Posted by Powdered Toast Man

i dont believe in so many alien sightings and abductions and ill tell you why:

if aliens have the technology to travel light years across the universe, then they MUST have the technology to keep them selves from being seen. we already have shitty invisibility cloaks, and we havnt even put a person on mars yet. by the time a society advances to a point of interstellar space travel, i think they would at least have some sort of cloaking technology.

so i think that aliens will only be seen if they WANT to be seen, and youll only remember being abducted if they WANT you to. so why would they want you to? if they want to be seen and known why dont they just land and come out?

.

About remembering abductions:

Disinfor purposes, usually or to get something out there that needs to get out there. Like if it's important for you or someone else to know.

The sheer shock of an Alien race landing is incredible enough to think about, but it actually happening? That would be huge. Too huge for most people, I think.

Plus, you have many factions out there. Some want to wait until we are mature enough to handle our own affairs first before they come. Some want to exploit us. Some just want to leave us alone.

You don't have to look far to see how this is a possiblity. "As above so below".

We exploit others as a nation on a daily basis. It stands to reason that there are ET factions out there who do this, but on a galatic level. Exploiting entire planets.


If there are Aliens out there vying for a time to make their presence known on a massive scale, you can bet your ass they are fighting amongst themselves as to when the best time would be to make themselves known.

Too soon and you have a frenzy of a mess YOU have to clean up.

Too late and the planet's gone, bombed by it's own inhabitents.

Alternatevely, too late and the species grows up, realizes it's own stupidity and begins to make real progress. The children smarten up and suddenly they aren't so easily controllable.

You have to look at the ET phenomona as being very different agendas being played out on a galatic stage. You have the positives- agenda seems to be uplifting the spirit mostly, encouraging knowledge of metaphysical realities and empowering humantiy to be more adult.

You have the negatives who wish to exploit the planet, it's resources (including humans and their emotions), and to generalyl take over and control.

You have others who do not want to interfere at all, but rather wish humanity to be left alone.

It's a very sticky situation. The negatives, as far as I know, have better tech and are much more willing to take control of the situation using whatever means neccessary. Which makes them very dangerous for us.

[Erorr]

What I'm about to say is very vague to the 100% accurate details of the night , It has been about 2 years since this has happened and from constant story telling of the events the memory's and details have been lost and only remembered in the format of the "story" of that night. I highly regret not writing down all details the day after but I cannot change the past. The proceeding events are all completely true and nothing has been exaggerated. I would not lie about this since the imagination and deceitful ways of others have corrupted the ability to actually believe anyone with an encounter of this kind.



It was about midnight and me and friend were sitting on his lawn listening to music and talking about life and looking at the sky. We had spent about an hour already outside and as we were picking up and getting ready to go to sleep we noticed how bright the north star was that night. As we looked we noticed it was swaying left to right and just generally rocking back and forth above a fixed position. It was about 5 miles high and maybe a maximum of 3 miles away from where we were. It was shaped similar to a piscati and the front of the ship had a windshield similar to the shape of a Vans , it curved around the front to the sides. We stood there staring at it and all the while the ship was projecting flashes of light on the tree tops. The light was flashed in a similar way to how a flashlight works. It was visible from the ship and the tree tops but wasnt a solid connected beam. When the flashes of light occurred , rice shaped objects were going with them. In horror and disbelief we ran inside and watched from the kitchen window.

While watching from the window we saw a smaller object come from the left of the ship and fly underneath it , we thought it was a small plane and was certain it was doomed. It stopped directly underneath the larger ship and stayed in a fixed position. We stared on and watched for another hour while nothing went on. We considered ourselves blessed and decided to let it be and sleep. I resisted against the idea but since it was not my home I went along and we got ready to go to bed. Three minutes into lying down my friend's sister came upstairs and asked if anyone wanted to talk with her since she couldnt sleep. I agreed and told her all about what was going on outside. We went to the basement to her room so she could change to go outside and went out the backdoor of the basement. This was maybe 2 hours after the initial beams of light were flashed onto the tree tops. We walked no more than 15 feet and were instantly welcomed with a blood curdling Snarl/Growl no more than two feet away from us yet nothing was visible. We both didnt hesitate to ask what the sound was and instantly ran for the backdoor and went inside. We exchanged words on what exactly just happened and in curiosity we decided to go back outside but through the garage on the front of the house.

When we got outside you could instantly hear what would best be described as horses walking on pavement. Yet all the ground surronding us was grass and nothing was visible in the large field that is there front lawn , I should mention the woods and tree tops that were hit with these lights were in the direction of this lawn. We got a flood light and shined it out scanning the field and saw nothing but as soon as this light hit the field , it sounded like a fleet of carriages galloping from all sides of the grass going back into the woods. I know what your thinking oh i saw invisible aliens but believe me I'm not lying , I'm not over exaggerating and this is just a scenario that isnt imaginable by common perceptions on what is to be expected in an alien visit. We stood there in front of the garage still watching the ship hover over this position with the smaller ship directly underneath it.

Now every twenty minutes or so these horse hove beats but from then on they sounded slow and very cautious. As soon as a noise was heard we would scan the field and the noise would stop or you could once again hear a galloping noise going back into the woods. This happened maybe two or three times within the next two hours. All the while the ship stayed fixed on its same position.


This is where things get odd..... It's now around 4am and the smaller ship that was underneath the larger one started moving , It went from its position and shot instantly upward and towards up. To our surprise it stopped completely directly above the house. It was roughly 10 miles high and straight above our heads. If it were not for us seeing it move i would of easily acknowledge it as nothing but a star. Meanwhile the other larger ship stayed in its position. Maybe 10 minutes after the smaller ship had went directly above the house you could vaguely see what resembled how a Tv screen when recorded has bars constantly moving. It looked like grey static waves moving in our vision. All the while it became clear we both were getting very sedated and very tired. My eyes instantly became heavy and I even decided to sit down on the pavement and look down fighting my urge to keep alert.

While all this was going on , I noticed that the footsteps from the woods were increasingly coming back and in what sounded like larger numbers. What scared me the most was the fact that now you could hear them behind the shed 20 feet away , From the side of the house , and from the field in great numbers. We would scan the light as it seemed to be our only defense. And from then on out we made sure to keep the light flowing at all directions.

Seeing as we instantly became very tired and were at the point of sitting down with our head in our hands in such a adrenaline rushing moment that would provoke your fight or flight instincts we decided it was now a unsafe situation and went indoors seeing as Daylight would break in about 40 minutes.

Now she sleeps in the basement , Everyone else sleeps upstairs so i part ways with her and go upstairs to my friends room but prior to that i went to the bathroom (upstairs). I lay down on his floor and try and force sleep. Ten minutes into trying to sleep I can hear through the floorboards the front door open which was odd since the garage door was closed (the large electric geared ones that swing down from the ceiling) and the garage is the only entrance to this door. I hear two sets of foot steps walk around downstairs from room to room. At this point my heart is pounding and I've never been more fearful in my life. As this goes on I hear someone exit the upstairs bathroom. Now i went to the bathroom prior to laying down , Everyone's door upstairs was closed and I would of heard any door open or shut. Not a single soul was awake and mobile yet someone had just came out of the very same one i had used not 10 minutes prior. I hear its footsteps walk past the door of the room I was in and then stop.

At that very moment i fell asleep , even in the heat of the most terrifying moment of my life I instantly went to deep sleep with no fade into it. It was roughly about 5am when this happened. I wake up at 10am fully rested and completely refreshed. As soon as my eyes open i recall a dream involving me and the same girl outside of the house very early in the morning i recall the dew in the air and the feeling of cold feet. All that occurred in this dream was me looking at her and saying "Wow that was fucked up." and the dream ends.


The people involved in this story , well I have talked to them about that night and there reaction was very minimal and slightly shrugged off. I'm not sure what if anything happened that night after I had mysteriously fallen asleep and I do take into account how powerful a subconscious can be during sleep and take the dream as open case and do not put a definite answer to its authenticity but It is somewhat haunting. The other thing that was alarming was my extreme distaste for being alone at night , especially outdoors. For the next few following weeks I constantly felt eyes on me and just very paranoid of the dark. Which was especially rough since I have a reversed sleep schedule and spend 90% of my time awake during the night and sleeping all day.



Thats really all I have , I wish i had more accurate time frames , details , more emotion and more vivid descriptions but as previously stated over time the memory was altered into the story of what went on. It is all 100% accurate and honest but the account of what went on is now in a Story format. Thanks for the time spent reading all this I do realize it is a wall of text but I would like to put all this down in word before the events became less and less descriptive and accurate.

[Anima Mundi]

I've seen many things in the sky which I had no idea what they could have been, but I have little knowledge of known air crafts. I've seen some strange things though, triangular placings of lights, as well as lights that changed colours. Could have been anything, but I sure thought it was strange.

[Dream of the iris]

One experience I had was dealing with some of the positives. This was during a time of intense change in myself and I think the postives were waiting for me to ask for them. After I did, very strange things begun to happen- this is one of those things.

I had just begun to question their motives and felt on the edge about working with them. In meditation, I began to question what they were doing saying things like

"You use control to get what you want"

That kind of thing. They remarked back by saying, as I recall,

"They choose this".

Meaning, those that work with them choose it. As does anyone who works with the negatives.


Suddenly, I was shown something from my past.

When I was a toddler, my grandparents were going to buy a house with a pool in the backyard. They were just about to sign when my grandmother had a dream. In it, she was in the house with the pool and she saw me in the pool face down, drowned.

They didn't buy the house after that dream.

I was shown this and they said,

"Maybe we should have let you drown".

My grandmother always said it was angels or God who gave her that dream. I don't know about all that and I suspect it was ET/MD intervention.


This deeply distrubed me and I came out of it a little shaken.

But I've since learned this is what they do. They are very blunt and it's not "mean" persay. It's just what they need to do to move people along.

I remember talking with one guy who had a real relationship with some of them. When he opted out, they told him,

"You're all going to burn. You remember what that's like, dont' you?"

Refering to a past life memory of his.

I don't mean to bash on the positives here. This is just an experience.

[Paranormal_G]

Don't let D.O.T.I. fool you, he is a plieadan alien attempting to trick you into opening portals to the abyss in your house.

Be forwarned.

[Dream of the iris]

[Dream of the iris]

Are you ready for Armaggedon?
By Jayna Conkle



This article was first published in JAR Magazine.
Reprinted with permission - All Rights Reserved JAR Magazine


Late September 2006, at about 2 am, a strange, blond man, tall, broad shouldered, and handsome, walked right into our living room in the middle of the night. We were up and alert at the time because someone had awakened us out of a dead sleep by rapping loudly on our bedroom window. A few minutes later, while my husband, Gerick, and I were shakily trying to figure out what was going on, Big Blond Guy just opened up our front door and strode on in!

The day after this event, Gerick and I remembered hardly any of it. But through a combination of personal effort, dreams and flashbacks and, ultimately, two hypnosis sessions a year later, substantial portions of what was to unfold that night came back to memory.

Someone at the door
I now recall I became terribly frightened when I heard someone large walking on our deck, and that I hastened to re-lock the front door (which we’d opened when trying to figure out who had knocked earlier.) Out in the country, if you have a home invasion, you’re toast, and we were living in rural Hocking Hills of southeast Ohio at the time.

I heard the screen door squeak open, and, already standing next to the door, I pushed my full weight against it, struggling to lock it before whoever it was came in. Gerick, only a few feet away, watched in dismay. He had heard the same things I heard. We’d called out and looked around after the knocking sound, and received no response, so this bold visitor’s beeline for the front door was more than a little ominous.

I was not quick enough, because just as I grabbed the door handle, the mystery man on the other end did as well and turned it easily against my grip, then began to push open the front door. I had bare feet to grip the linoleum, and I gave my all to keep that door from opening, but the person on the other side was bigger and stronger. Gerick, for his part, seemed too stunned to move.

Later I remembered the set of events involving that door in a repeated nightmare, where I was so terrified of what was coming that I groaned and whimpered at the same time in an eerie sound I think few but abductees have often heard. That nightmare was part of what led me later to remember what happened both before and after the door opened.

I knew him and his name was Ethan
The man came in, not at all hampered by my efforts to stop him. As soon as I saw who it was, I rec- ognized him, as did Gerick. The blond guy’s name was Ethan - I knew it as soon as I saw him. He calmed me down and apologized for scaring me as he grabbed my shoulders and looked into my eyes for a second - that standard calming procedure so many of us are familiar with. . .

Ethan had the physique of a bodybuilder, was easily over 6.5 feet tall, had wavy dark blond hair to his shoulders, deep blue eyes, and a snub nose that looked a little too short for his long, smooth, face. He looked entirely human, though hardly typical. He was not like those Grey-human hybrids with whom I’ve had repeated encounters. His behavior, voice inflections, and appearance were all very human. We knew beyond all shadow of doubt, however, that he was not. Later, under hypnosis, I remembered I had seen him before when we were both still toddlers. At that time he was surrounded by Greys and hybrids. No adult humans could be seen. So, though he may appear to be what some call ‘Nordic,’ I am not at all convinced of his origins.

Strange reactions
Gerick’s and my reactions weren’t nearly as pronounced as what one might expect in such a situation. Perhaps, inexplicably, once we realized the home invasion was alien related, we stopped panicking. Both of us have known we’re abductees since 1986, and after 20 years of regular experiences, it just wasn’t that shocking anymore. It was the thought of a huge human man shoving his way into our house that made me panic. I may not know the agenda of an alien intruder, but a human intruder means definite mortal danger.

Adrenaline pumping and still gasping for breath, I excused myself to go to the bathroom to run water over my face, because, though calmer, I was still a mess. Ethan was fine with that, and he and Gerick began talking while I tried to get a hold of myself.

I told myself to remember
In the spare bathroom, I looked at my reflection and told myself to remember, because I knew Ethan was either an alien of some sort, or working for them and able to use their tricks. I wanted to have a ‘bookmarked moment’ that would be triggered later when next I looked in that particular mirror, thus getting around the artificially induced amnesia to some extent (I hoped). It bothered me that something so important could happen that I would be required to forget. I am always trying new ways to get around that amnesia thing - and sometimes, my techniques succeed. The trigger moment technique I had used before. It works pretty well, and the aliens (or whoever they are) haven’t caught on yet. So I looked into my eyes in that mirror and commanded myself, over and over again: remember this night! I even tried to trance out a little to embed my selfcommand more deeply.

I hadn’t thought to use a mirror before, but it seemed worth a shot since it was right there.

Another challenge faced me, for I would have to forget consciously what I told myself in the mirror before I was back in Ethan’s presence. Otherwise, being telepathic, he’d pick up on it and, I feared, override it. Luckily, with so much happening, it was easy to move on to other things mentally and totally sidestep a conscious train of thought. So I purposely shifted my attention to how this visit made some sense, given that 2006 had been such a ‘high strangeness’ year after almost a decade of normality

Active again after being on ‘stand-by’ status
Bizarre things had been occurring ever since we moved into that cabin out in the Ohio woods: Grey alien visitations, poltergeist phenomena, and several close-up UFO sightings. It had been an interesting year, to say the least! But this walk-in by a tall blond dude was altogether a bigger deal, and I knew it.

Many years before, Gerick and I and several other abductees we knew of were apparently put on some sort of ‘stand-by’ status. We were all told the same thing: that we were prepared and ready now, so we’d mostly be left alone (except for brief check-ups) until "it was time."

Time for what? For something to start. Something big. Something that had to do with the whole world changing. . . Speculation ran high among us as to what that big something was. We were never told for sure, although there were hints aplenty, and everyone was pretty certain the aliens would be present for whatever was to happen. At times, debates got ugly and divisive, perhaps because it was easier to argue than to wonder.

With this firmly in mind, I re-entered the living room where Gerick was sitting on the sofa and Ethan was standing listening to Gerick report news of our recent life. I sighed sadly, wondering what was coming next, resigned because I knew I couldn’t avoid it.

Shocking words in a cheerful tone
Ethan turned and saw I’d entered the room. He then asked us both in a light-hearted, even downright jovial voice, "Are you ready for Armageddon?"

I was floored. Yeah, Gerick and I had both been told, (apparently by the aliens), since we were kids, that excrement would hit the whirling blades at some point in the distant future - but part of me could never quite believe it. Not really. Now a large man was saying this outrageous thing as if he knew - and he didn’t even sound upset!

The thought ran through my head, ‘He did NOT just say that!’ Ethan spoke so cheerfully; it was d**ned eerie, given his actual words.

Gerick delivered an, "Are you kidding me?!" with a cynical air of disbelief, tinged with fear. I knew why. Can you believe this sort of thing, or not? Was it some sort of manipulative trick? That’s what I was wondering, and for a change rather hoping the guy was lying - but honestly? - I didn’t think so. No, Ethan said, he wasn’t kidding. He seemed to be trying to convey scary information to us in a way that would not scare us, using humor and a light manner. He said it was getting close. I think he said "a few years" was when it would all start. So, not right away, don’t worry now! But tonight there was a meeting where all this would be discussed, so—time for a ride! (On a UFO, I knew he meant.)

I can’t believe this is happening!
I assumed this meeting had to do with Gerick alone, because Gerick works more with the human-looking ones, whereas I get the Greys and hybrids more. (Lucky me, huh?) It’s not a hard rule; my husband sees Greys, and I see humanlooking ones too. Still, I just assumed and began to excuse myself to go back to bed.

But no, Ethan said we were both to go to the meeting, so we needed to get dressed. (Its awful to be with aliens wearing a nightshirt or underpants - or, in summers, totally naked! - so I deeply appreciated the courtesy.)

I asked Ethan, were we being "beamed" by that bluish-white ray thing, or going through a "doorway," or walking, or. . .? Because if there was any walking, I was going to go get my shoes on! Ethan said, "Yeah, put on your shoes," because we’d be walking along the gravel driveway and that wouldn’t feel too good on bare feet.

So Gerick and I went to our bedroom and got dressed. We heard Ethan open the front door and talk to people outside on our deck. I said to my husband, "Oh my gawd, I can’t believe this is happening. . . !" and he agreed, though he was short with me, and apparently much more stressed out than even I was.

Once we were back in the living room, I asked if I could brush my hair. Gerick scolded me, saying they couldn’t wait, but Ethan smiled and said sure, so I gave the messy bed-hair a few strokes before heading out the door. Again, appreciated. The Greys don’t care about these sorts of details, which is one reason I prefer the human-looking ones overall. You can talk them into things, sometimes, if you’re persuasive and lucky.

More Blonds waiting outside
On our deck, there was another man and a woman. Ethan was wearing earth clothes, I guess you’d say (a tan mock turtleneck long-sleeved shirt and tan slacks) but the man and woman were wearing close-fitting coveralls.

I looked them over nervously, searching for visible signs of ‘otherness,’ but, though it was too dim to see much detail, they both seemed normal enough. The woman (also a tall ‘Blond’) saw me staring at her and smiled warmly. I smiled weakly but was interrupted by the sight of a large disk type UFO turning on it’s lights right before us.

It was coming down over the hills behind our house. It was the same one we saw the month before, only much closer! I was excited and curious, and awed - I couldn’t help it. Gerick was more wary, but also visibly reacting.

Noticing the ‘Oz effect’
We left the deck and walked down the driveway about an eighth mile to meet the now hovering UFO. Ethan went first and Gerick and I were flanked on both sides by the other two. I noted that the normally loud nocturnal insects were totally silent, highly unusual at that time of the year since we’d had no frost yet. The noise should have been very loud.

The term ‘Oz Effect’ went through my mind bemusedly and the woman walking next to me apparently heard my thoughts, for she asked me what that phrase meant. I was happy to explain it to her (the term means the eerie atmosphere that tends to surround paranormal events, including alien abductions), but was disappointed by her lack of reaction when I did.

A meeting still poorly remembered
To this day, and despite hypnosis, I remember little of how we boarded the disk, or what happened once we were in it. A few fleeting images of sitting around a brightly lit room with sofas and chairs and people, maybe 40 in total, either talking or milling around, is what I recall. Human-looking aliens were there, and other abductees besides Gerick and myself, but no Greys - although there may have been some obvious hybrids. We discussed this future event Ethan had referred to when he said, "Are you ready for Armageddon?" I remember coming home. We were put down in the field next to the driveway, and from there walked back to the cabin. Ethan was in charge and the other man and woman were still with us as ‘escorts,’ though this time we were all quite relaxed and even chatty. Gerick was talking animatedly with the escort couple, while I walked alongside Ethan.

Avoiding ‘side effects’
I was puzzled about the long walk; why didn’t they just pick us up and drop us off from the cabin deck directly? Ethan displayed his telepathic abilities by answering a question I had not even voiced, saying they were avoiding unwanted ‘side effects’ by giving things a little distance.

I got excited when he said that, because I’ve so often noted other, seemingly unrelated, strange events occurring within proximity of alien encounters. I’m not the only one who wonders if the alien’s advanced technology can open a temporary paranormal window into our physical reality. Were his words a confirmation that this was, in fact, true? Ethan’s answer was only a vague, "Something like that," and he seemed amused by my enthusiasm over the idea.

Report of horrible abductions dismays Ethan
Since he seemed open and friendly, I leaped on the chance to ask Ethan about a series of horrible abductions I had been subjected to earlier that year, climaxing in the spring. I consciously remembered more about those abductions than I usually do, perhaps because the Greys who took me weren’t my ‘regulars,’ didn’t know me, and didn’t know about any of the techniques I used to enable me to remember more than I was supposed to.

I told him about the weirdness of the encounters - weird even for the Greys - and of my ill health, and disappearing pregnancy. I told him I didn’t know the Greys who took me, and that I didn’t like them - they were "mean, cold, and freaky." I told Ethan their methods were much more harsh and twisted than ‘my’ Greys.

I looked over to see Ethan’s reaction to all this, just able to see his face in the dim light (was it moonlight?). He seemed worried, confused, even alarmed. Clearly, he didn’t know about the abductions I was talking about, and he didn’t seem pleased. I pressed him for answers. I was still feeling angry and confused, and wondered just who the heck was in charge regarding these things anyway?

He said only that he didn’t think they were supposed to do that. Not now. I got the distinct impression something had changed recently regarding such things.

I also knew he would be telling others what I had told him. I don’t know if he gave me that impression on purpose, or if I was just ‘tuning in’ telepathically to his thoughts. Since our conversations were typically a mixture of telepathy and verbal speech, it was difficult to tell. He was surprised and preoccupied enough for a few moments that perhaps he forgot to mentally censor himself and gave away more than he meant to.

Told to leave Ohio by a certain date
When we were nearly at the door, Ethan reminded Gerick and I of something we had been told earlier on the ship: we had to move out of Ohio and back to the West Coast within a couple of years. He made it clear it wouldn’t be safe for us to remain where we were for too much longer, and I can’t remember why, although I know I asked.

We were escorted to our door, told to dress for bed and go back to sleep - which we were only too grateful to do as it was 4-something in the morning. I do not, however, remember the actual good-byes.

Aftermath
The next morning, as we got ready for work, Gerick asked me if I remembered someone pounding on our bedroom window in the middle of the night. I did, but only when he reminded me of it. I recalled three loud bangs, hard enough to almost break the window. We both suspected something alien-related had happened, for how could we possibly go back to sleep after such a loud and intelligently directed noise?

Yet we remembered nothing more at the time.

However, over the next few weeks I had nightmares and dreams about the event. Bits and pieces leaked out, though in no particular order. I also had several waking flashbacks, where I remembered our reaction to the loud knocking on the window, talking to someone in our living room, and seeing the disk UFO outside close up.

Then one day I happened to use the spare bathroom to wash my face, and I remembered, quite suddenly, telling myself to remember while looking into my own eyes in the mirror - and that a strange man was in the house when I did it. That’s it. That’s all I could recall. I was frustrated and angered and determined to have some answers.

Searching for answers
Almost a year later, I found an alien abduction researcher and traveled quite some distance to be put under hypnosis. I had to have more than those random bits of memory! I’d been just as desperate for answers in the early 90s when I first tried hypnosis, finding it quite useful, and I wasn’t to be disappointed this time around.

Remembered events were put into order and additional details filled in. That, and under hypnosis I reported I’d "get my memories back" and "know what I was supposed to do" in October of 2008. That I came up with this date was shocking to me and, quite frankly, I don’t know if I believe it myself.

Forced into a conspiracy
About two hours of the night are still unaccounted for. Under hypnosis, I flat-out refused to delve deeper into my memory regarding the all important meeting. I informed the hypnotist I would not tell myself what happened on board the ship and therefore I could not tell her.

Even under hypnosis, I felt what we discussed at that meeting should remain secret for a while longer. I was afraid premature disclosure might prove dangerous to myself or others like me - that informing on the aliens’ plans was a breach of security for which there might be dire consequences.

It wasn’t that I wanted to protect the aliens, for I believe they can take care of themselves quite well. Neither did I fear alien reprisal for blowing their cover. I was more worried about what might happen to abductees if the ‘wrong people’ (military black ops? intelligence agents?) found out what we as a group were being forced into as ‘co-conspirators.’ As far as I’m concerned, abductees like myself are innocent victims in all of this, and don’t deserve additional grief from our own government. Yet there are many MILAB victims who can attest that more grief is indeed given to some of us. I fear what humans in power might do in retaliation or as a counter-plan for which we abductees may become ‘acceptable casualties.’ It’s hard to say whom I trust less: people or aliens. They can both be very selfish and frightening.

A big, worldwide event?
I have experienced alien abductions my entire life, and the unanswered question that frustrates me is not why are they here? What I’ve always wanted to know is: Have the aliens been truthful when they’ve told me, and seemingly prepared me - since my childhood - for some major, mysterious, world-wide event?

I’m not the only one who has been told this, and trained for it, and I’m sure we all wonder. Are these lies told to gain our cooperation, as some assert? Or are the aliens genuinely planning for something?

A new M.O. for the aliens
And this encounter with Ethan was different than earlier encounters regarding that very question. Always, in the past, the ‘Big Change’ was spoken of distantly as some vague event that will happen in a timeframe somewhere between "someday" and "soon." However, in our 2006 abduction, Ethan’s words suggested a much more imminent event, and I even spontaneously blurted out a date under hypnosis.

I’m not saying I believe the date, but I can’t help but note it represents a definite change from the alien M.O. I’m used to. Ethan was clear: The mysterious event we have been preparing for our entire lives, which he referred to so cheerfully as ‘Armageddon,’ was now about to happen.

What sort of event or set of events do the aliens think represents ‘Armageddon?’ That’s what I want to know. Multiple abductees have been shown many different scenarios by the aliens over the years, so we really have no idea. All we know is the aliens themselves sure seem hung up on the concept! Or perhaps this is just a new twist on one long, sick, joke perpetrated by them for reasons only they can fathom. Time for a confession. . . Gerick and I did move back to the West Coast at the end of 2007, right on time, as directed - and we made the plans for this move before I even remembered we were told to do it. After I did remember, furthermore, we declined to change our minds.

[Figure-8]

I see you've met the neighbors.

[not me]

Originally Posted by Overman

I was abducted by martians...

I don't want to talk about it though. And no, not trolling.

You were abducted by martians ? Did they probe you anally ?
Why won't you talk about it ? No details=it didn't happen.
Don't be embarrassed. It happens all the time.

[Dream of the iris]

Had a strange dream last night.


I remember running from this group- I guess some government agency. I can't recall too much and it's kinda jumbled, but I remember at the end running around a corner and there were these grey beings standing there along with some of the government agents.

I recall turning away to run and being "stunned" or something. I remember turning around and being complelty complacent. Going with the FBI guys or whoever.

I remember my friend and I were runnign and she got caught. I was scared for her and asked about her. One of the FBI guys in the truck said she was being "activated" to test her psychic abilities.

Something like that.

Anyway it was strange and before this, right before I went to bed, I was feeling some strange signitures in my room.

[Duelist]

oh god i really want to troll in this thread.

[Raptor Ribs]

LOL. You guys are fucking retarded. Aliens exist but they haven't made contact with earth.

Oh by the way, I was abducted too! I was sleeping and aliens kicked in the door. They tazed me bro, then I was sucked up in a beam of energy. The aliens stuck a glowing purple rod up my ass and then licked it clean! Then they brought me home. But no one believes me!!

[maskedwolfpup]

Originally Posted by Dream of the iris

Had a strange dream last night.


I remember running from this group- I guess some government agency. I can't recall too much and it's kinda jumbled, but I remember at the end running around a corner and there were these grey beings standing there along with some of the government agents.

I recall turning away to run and being "stunned" or something. I remember turning around and being complelty complacent. Going with the FBI guys or whoever.

I remember my friend and I were runnign and she got caught. I was scared for her and asked about her. One of the FBI guys in the truck said she was being "activated" to test her psychic abilities.

Something like that.

Anyway it was strange and before this, right before I went to bed, I was feeling some strange signitures in my room.

what do you mean by strange signatures?

[Erorr]

Originally Posted by Raptor Ribs

Why did this thread appear in my subscribed topics list if I don't have any posts in it?

lulz, It abducted me?

It used to be my thread on my alien encounter but was then merged into this re titled then i suggested all my threads content be deleted so we can start fresh

Which would probably mean you once posted in my thread on this topic

[Figure-8]

Most of you have been observed.

[Dream of the iris]

Originally Posted by maskedwolfpup

what do you mean by strange signatures?

Just as you have an individual written signiture, you also have a psychic signiture which can be picked up.


When I'm more activated I can sense someone's presence and know who they are by their particular individual signiture, although this is difficult to do. For me I usually have to have some kind of contact with them or some kind of connection even if just faint for it to occur.

As for ET sigs, this is something I know very little about. When I said strange signitures, I meant that before I fell asleep I felt presences in my room which were strange. Whether this was ET I don't know for sure.

[Mike_Holst]

They just want us to know they are out there; watching us, waiting...

[Dream of the iris]

A series of conversations. Important if you are a contactee.

There is so much to share with you on so many things, that it makes it entirely daunting to even know where to start.

For one:

Did you know that some ET's place triggers in your psyche and ~internal processes~ to "awaken" within people?

Lets say as an example, they have you on a table or over your bed. They keep you close and put in a thought deep inside your mind, and then make you forget it. (in the sense of recall)

When you awake you might or might not recall the event. But months later when you stumble across a series of words or viewed triggers, it causes you a sudden burst of ____________.

It could be realizations, it could be a specific emotional reaction, it could be a trigger that releases a certain subset of information, it could be a tigger that releases a thought process or a memory (false or true...doesn't matter).

One of the things the males impressed upon me in my contact experiences, during casual conversations, is that people trust themselves *alot*.

"If they feel it or experience it inside them, it becomes true to them"

(I am generally talking about "experiencers" but it also applies to non-experiencers to some extent...I'll explain more on what I mean later.)

This is a Grey point of view. And generally supported by other lessons I was taught.

Many people do not apply themselves to any rigorous standard in their personal mentality. The ET's I knew pointed out that people will believe pretty much most things as long as they feel it comes from themselves.

One of the lessons I came across was that people sometimes (not always) require supporting evidence and a supporting thought framework to attatch them to an idea.

I don't want to make it overly complicated. So I will just say that even though we were all born on this good green earth and we all assume that our personal mindspace is "sacred" and "untouchable".....and therefore we all seemingly become accustomed to have really lax rules over our thinking and analyzing process over our own thoughts.

In the paradigm that the ET's experience day by day, the mind of a human being is generally not a "locked box" by any stretch of the imagination.

The people who come into contact with ET's who are very discerning will notice that their mind is not untouchable or unaffected. In fact, telepathy and a whole range of other experiences demand that it not be. Otherwise telepathy and a range of other talents would not work in any way.

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So the first thing to understand is this:

Be careful with your own thoughts.

You have to vouch for your own internal thought processes and apply thick levels of analysis and logic to counter many unsolicited changes to your personal mind.

This may seem impractical to some, but this is because their contact experiences are momentary and fleeting. Here one day and gone for the next 2 months.

Mine was semi-constant and while I was fully conscious, so it was a necessity from the very start.

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Some ET's like to spread ideas of self empowerment and self inner-enlightenment for basically one generalized reason.

Most people have no mental firewall or internal mental auditing process in place.

Therefore will have the upper hand with someone who is ignorant of the above about the average state of the human mind.

The other option is to do a combo it up with "you should trust yourself when you feel you should totally trust them". (Its a vicious loop the majority of people I have met fall for.)

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Another point to discuss is the ideas being expressed do not tend to make any clear sense.

The mind of a person has to be significantly altered and compromised to a point to allow gradual manipulation. There are psyche test that many (but not all) ET's tend to perform to evaluate a persons many characteristics.

I don't have an English expression for what I am trying to express. So I will put it this way from a mental expression.

A human being is composed like a multi-threaded box. You have to analyze the strengths and weaknesses of various points in order to know which manipulative model is best applied to each individual.

No one size fits all.

Some people require treatments which incorporate elements that makes them feel a specific way.

In some cases, it may include incorporating things which make you feel like your desires are being met. Others require desires to be inculcated and constructed over time.

If it sounds like I am talking about ET mind control....it's because I am.

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One subject may wish to feel important, another may feel it is necessary to do something they place a great important or empowered in.

Examples that may fit this, are whales or missions of humanitarian aide.

Another example, is feeling like you are descended from Gods, or that you are from God. (El and Elohim.)

If I could only count how many times people have come to me in the past and told me in confidence that they were angels or that they were a candidate for a messiah....

[quote]

[Figure-8]

My god, I forgot all about this experience you wrote about. I should've seen. I'll send you a PM.

Originally Posted by Erorr

rice shaped objects were going with them.

Beam down.

In horror and disbelief we ran inside and watched from the kitchen window.

You tell the intentions of the observers and the goal of the experience by how you feel, the majority of the time.

We stared on and watched for another hour while nothing went on.

Do not give into astonishment

We considered ourselves blessed and decided to let it be and sleep.

You decide what else you could've done.

Three minutes into lying down my friend's sister came upstairs and asked if anyone wanted to talk with her since she couldnt sleep.

Pay attention.

We walked no more than 15 feet and were instantly welcomed with a blood curdling Snarl/Growl no more than two feet away from us yet nothing was visible.

PAY ATTENTION Your DNA depends on it.

We both didnt hesitate to ask what the sound was and instantly ran for the backdoor and went inside.

FEAR NOT, THEY FEAR YOU

We exchanged words on what exactly just happened and in curiosity we decided to go back outside but through the garage on the front of the house.

BEGGING THE QUESTION/EXPERIENCE. PAY ATTENTION, IT IS PREDICTABLE.

When we got outside you could instantly hear what would best be described as horses walking on pavement. Yet all the ground surronding us was grass and nothing was visible in the large field that is there front lawn , I should mention the woods and tree tops that were hit with these lights were in the direction of this lawn.

Think of the intention. Trying to figure out what was actually out here will only result in shrill screaming

DO NOT GIVE INTEREST INTO THIS.

If you are open enough to meet these, you are open enough to meet the other guys, you simply aren't pure enough to handle their energy without leaving your body.

We got a flood light and shined it out scanning the field and saw nothing but as soon as this light hit the field , it sounded like a fleet of carriages galloping from all sides of the grass going back into the woods.

Do you get the picture?

I know what your thinking oh i saw invisible aliens.

You did not SEE them because that was not their intentions, my friend, you must be careful. No matter what anyone else tells you, Be Careful.

We stood there in front of the garage still watching the ship hover over this position with the smaller ship directly underneath it.

You needed to communicate to them to either show themselves and their intentions or TO LEAVE THE AREA BY THE POWER OF YOUR FREE-WILL.

If not, you are literally opening the door simply by showing interest.

Now every twenty minutes or so these horse hove beats but from then on they sounded slow and very cautious.

Continous probing of interest. If there is enough of this, they can step inside.

As soon as a noise was heard we would scan the field and the noise would stop or you could once again hear a galloping noise going back into the woods.

You should've had someone man the light while you walked into the field and commanded them to leave or show themselves. It would've avoided the alternative experience.

If it were not for us seeing it move i would of easily acknowledge it as nothing but a star.

This is the idea.

you could vaguely see what resembled how a Tv screen when recorded has bars constantly moving. It looked like grey static waves moving in our vision.

I will get someone else to read this, someone else who's witness one of the similar experiences, during a similar experience.

This is the energy that powers the ship, it is silent, yet you can feel it, it is invisible yet you can sense it with your mind's eye and what you would think your own vision.

The energy radiates outward in spirals/waves as if it is emitting a type of psychic/gravity field energy.

There are many with this technology, including human forms.

All the while it became clear we both were getting very sedated and very tired. My eyes instantly became heavy and I even decided to sit down on the pavement and look down fighting my urge to keep alert.

Don't give into this EITHER.

Please.

While all this was going on , I noticed that the footsteps from the woods were increasingly coming back and in what sounded like larger numbers.

More probing, this time with an effect, and if you do not evade or seek to change the effect, eventually they will walk right up to you and get what they want.

What scared me the most was the fact that now you could hear them behind the shed 20 feet away , From the side of the house , and from the field in great numbers.

We would scan the light as it seemed to be our only defense. And from then on out we made sure to keep the light flowing at all directions.

The light is synonymous with your MIND with your AWARENESS Your awareness protects, please use it in all situations.

Seeing as we instantly became very tired and were at the point of sitting down with our head in our hands in such a adrenaline rushing moment that would provoke your fight or flight instincts we decided it was now a unsafe situation and went indoors seeing as Daylight would break in about 40 minutes.

At this point you call on the light, you call on the love, and you call on your angel.

This too, avoids the alternative. And you learn much.

I lay down on his floor and try and force sleep.

No need, stay awake until day break, there will be too much human activity for this to continue.

Ten minutes into trying to sleep I can hear through the floorboards the front door open which was odd since the garage door was closed (the large electric geared ones that swing down from the ceiling) and the garage is the only entrance to this door. I hear two sets of foot steps walk around downstairs from room to room. At this point my heart is pounding and I've never been more fearful in my life.

You didn't call on the light? This must've been your first experience.

As this goes on I hear someone exit the upstairs bathroom.I hear its footsteps walk past the door of the room I was in and then stop.

This is probing, in the closest way, now you know.

At that very moment i fell asleep ,

You did not.

even in the heat of the most terrifying moment of my life I instantly went to deep sleep with no fade into it.

You didn't.

fully rested and completely refreshed.

Pay attention.

As soon as my eyes open i recall a dream involving me and the same girl outside of the house very early in the morning i recall the dew in the air and the feeling of cold feet. All that occurred in this dream was me looking at her and saying "Wow that was fucked up." and the dream ends.

Pay attention. The internet is not serious business, but altering your DNA is.

The people involved in this story , well I have talked to them about that night and there reaction was very minimal and slightly shrugged off.

The fact is, YOU are aware.

do not put a definite answer to its authenticity but It is somewhat haunting.

In time you will remember everything, when you learn how to guide your energy and access the various parts of your memory/brain/energy field that are folded.

The other thing that was alarming was my extreme distaste for being alone at night , especially outdoors.

Most common. It's instinctual.

For the next few following weeks I constantly felt eyes on me and just very paranoid of the dark.

Pay attention. Your intuition is right.

Which was especially rough since I have a reversed sleep schedule and spend 90% of my time awake during the night and sleeping all day.

This negative result alone, tells you of their intentions.

When they are positive, they do not wake you up, they do not step on your toes, they do not scare you, they do not butt in.

When they are positive they formally introduce themselves, they find the right time, the perfect synchronicity when you are most active due to natural synchronization of events in your life, and your awareness, there are messages and signs preceding and proceeding, love envelopes your mind and body, knowledge is gained, everyone in your wake knows, and you are a new person because of it.


Please seek to love

Thats really all I have

You have so much more!

[davey]

ahh ufos aliens! scary!

[Figure-8]

Originally Posted by Dream of the iris

I remember running from this group- I guess some government agency. I can't recall too much and it's kinda jumbled, but I remember at the end running around a corner and there were these grey beings standing there along with some of the government agents.

I recall turning away to run and being "stunned" or something. I remember turning around and being complelty complacent. Going with the FBI guys or whoever.

I remember my friend and I were runnign and she got caught. I was scared for her and asked about her. One of the FBI guys in the truck said she was being "activated" to test her psychic abilities.

Well you get the idea right? Find your friends tell them you love them, activate them, make them aware, this is a formula for protection and evolution.

Anyway it was strange and before this, right before I went to bed, I was feeling some strange signitures in my room.

You are in control, when you believe you are. LOVE. Yes you. We are all together in this, you've seen the videos, you've read the sites, and even here you've read experiences. This is happening, and it is becoming world-wide knowledge. This is the future, this is the change. We are actually apart of a very large family and we have a very complex past. Each of us individually and ultimately as a species.

This deeply distrubed me and I came out of it a little shaken.

This happens. Keep together.

Why oh why did I pass by this thread and these posts before, I must've been in a slumber, now my fasting seems to be removing the blocks.

We must come together, they are there to help, and there are those who are more recent, and seeking to disturb the natural flow of things, this is the current trend in society/planet earth. It is NOT human life doing this! We are positive beings.

The more negativity, the less human.

Originally Posted by Dream of the iris

Just as you have an individual written signiture, you also have a psychic signiture which can be picked up.


When I'm more activated I can sense someone's presence and know who they are by their particular individual signiture, although this is difficult to do. For me I usually have to have some kind of contact with them or some kind of connection even if just faint for it to occur.

I'm so glad you're awake! This will make things very interesting in the near future!

[Figure-8]

Originally Posted by Dream of the iris

"If they feel it or experience it inside them, it becomes true to them"

Beware of the false memories! You can tell which are hallucinations/memory implants/fantasy/etc

In some reality it did happen that way, but the idea is to get you to shift realities, so that you are more visible and more perceivable and ultimately more VIABLE to them.

Find the most positive reality, memory and intention! And become!

This is a Grey point of view.

There are few who perform in this way! They are not the focus!

Many people do not apply themselves to any rigorous standard in their personal mentality. The ET's I knew pointed out that people will believe pretty much most things as long as they feel it comes from themselves.

You become aware! Seek within! And the information will not even resonate in your system if it doesn't originate from your higher self!

One of the lessons I came across was that people sometimes (not always) require supporting evidence and a supporting thought framework to attatch them to an idea.

This can all be manifested on your plane in the forms of thoughts, impressions, ideas, props, and chime ins from other individuals!

Follow your self, your inner voice!

I don't want to make it overly complicated. So I will just say that even though we were all born on this good green earth and we all assume that our personal mindspace is "sacred" and "untouchable".....and therefore we all seemingly become accustomed to have really lax rules over our thinking and analyzing process over our own thoughts.

It never was! Your evolution relies on the dynamic interplay of spirits and energies interacting with your physical form until a residual internal awareness is born!

Ultimately, this opens up into a remembered of an eternal self! And self-awareness! But it starts by a feeding of many energies and selves from mother earth, nature, and the energies in the area!

When you are aware, it is the eternal you and all other energies come to rest! They may reside in the area, but they are no longer determining the outcome of the body and mind!

They can only influence at this point as the self-awareness becomes more and more defined as an eternal natural of the balance between mind and physicality!

After this, the awareness balances it's goals, and ultimately reality and self/nature, by transcending duality!

In the paradigm that the ET's experience day by day, the mind of a human being is generally not a "locked box" by any stretch of the imagination.

Monks are very difficult to open! Very powerful. Very centered in knowing "themselves" there for you can't trick them!

Same with an ultimately loving being! The love itself will override any other functions or distractions!

The people who come into contact with ET's who are very discerning will notice that their mind is not untouchable or unaffected. In fact, telepathy and a whole range of other experiences demand that it not be. Otherwise telepathy and a range of other talents would not work in any way.

Precisely!

Be careful with your own thoughts.

And dreams! This is why I say Lucid Dreams are so important! You are making waves that will resonate out through your memory and mental patterns for years!

You have to vouch for your own internal thought processes and apply thick levels of analysis and logic to counter many unsolicited changes to your personal mind.

Always seek awareness, but do not wear yourself out! Do not do more than you feel you are to in a given moment! And even, cut it short and become calm and peaceful and then intend to be productive and helpful! Do not get caught up! Do not give into astonishment!

Another example, is feeling like you are descended from Gods, or that you are from God. (El and Elohim.)

"Yes, we love you, but don't trick yourself into thinking you're the one.

We all know there are 8 billion of you on this planet!"

[Danger]

Originally Posted by Dream of the iris

Had a strange dream last night.


I remember running from this group- I guess some government agency. I can't recall too much and it's kinda jumbled, but I remember at the end running around a corner and there were these grey beings standing there along with some of the government agents.

I recall turning away to run and being "stunned" or something. I remember turning around and being complelty complacent. Going with the FBI guys or whoever.

I remember my friend and I were runnign and she got caught. I was scared for her and asked about her. One of the FBI guys in the truck said she was being "activated" to test her psychic abilities.

Something like that.

Anyway it was strange and before this, right before I went to bed, I was feeling some strange signitures in my room.

I had the same type of dream dude it was crazy, I was semi-lucid, I remember teleporting around laughing, fucking around with these agent's or whatever they were.. There was what seemed to be this ghost chick too and whenever she touched me my entire body felt as if I was being electrocuted, i seen her coming from the corner of my eye, relized what she was doing & grabbed her before she could grab me.. I looked into her eyes and It was like I could read her mind, I could hear her think "it's not working on him" woke up not long after....

[Figure-8]

Not a dream...

[Danger]

Originally Posted by ate

Not a dream...

I've thought about that, something like one of the buddhist 7 planes of existance, or one of their infinite sub-realms. I've been to atleast 6 of those planes, if my dream interpretations are correct..... both whilst concious and unconcious.. the lower realms whilst concious of them are undescribably horrifying..

[Firemind]

Okay I was abducted yesterday. It was by the NWO, or at least one of their CEOs. He said they know everything about us and that they are going to finish it just as planned. As he walked away from the dull lit room a hooded figure emerged from the shadows. He had the G in the line symbol on the chestpocket area.

I smelt a strange fragrance as he spoke and his words resonated. I had a terrible migraine and I was grabbed by my shoulders, I tried to shake the persons hands off. And I sensed my 2nd captor was a woman. The perfume was a big giveaway. That and I her hair was touching my face. Her nails dug into my back as I was pulling free. And immediately I felt a sharp stab in my neck and froze. I was going numb and was soon paralyzed.

As I waned out of consciousness I heard him say."Our reign is god's will."
I woke up inside my suite. And was placed as if nothing happened at all. Even my door jamb was put in place. These guys are good man, I'm telling you. Shit.