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Default Is Jesus actually Lucifer

Let me preface this by saying that I am not a christian. This is simply something I've been thinking about. It came to me last night when I was just chilling about before sleep. I don't have a great knowledge of the bible so forgive me if I botch some things up.

So, Lucifer is the "fallen angel". He was cast out from heaven, supposedly to hell. It is m Jesus was sent from heaven to earth. Lucifer is literally bearer or light. God said that Lucifer was the greatest being he had ever created.

A name given to lucifer in the bible is "The Morning Star" and is referred to as that several times. Now here is a line from Revelations in which Jesus reveals himself to be "The Morning Star" and basically the bearer of light.

Revelation 22:16 (King James Version)

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

So maybe my theory is a little half-thought. I've been trying to connect some dots, but have just been lazy. Please expand on this as I don't think this topic has ever been properly addressed. It basically flips the whole bible on it's head.
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Old 03-27-2010, 07:38 AM
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Origins of Slavery, aka Commerce

In the Garden of Eden, the serpent suggested to Eve, that if she were to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, her eyes would be opened and she would be as God. So, she and Adam ate the Amanita Muscaria mushroom (which resembles an apple) …. a hallucinogen which allowed them to realize that they are, indeed, God–– just as the serpent had said. It also allowed them to see that their nakedness meant that they are slaves, since, in the Garden, slaves wore no clothing. When they realized that their true nature was God, they clothed themselves accordingly. The LORD God (ego mind) didn’t like the fact that his slaves now knew they were God/Divinity, so he threw them out. Now, they were responsible for finding their own food, clothing, and shelter. Certainly, they had been protected, in the Garden, (read: “received benefits and privileges”), but their true freedom meant that they were now completely responsible for their lives. This was probably not too worrisome for them, now, with their gained knowledge that they are God.

In the 8th book of The Ringing Cedars of Russia series, we read that the slave-owners realized that, one day, the slaves, who out-numbered the masters 10 to 1, would finally catch onto how to escape, one way or another. So, the masters “freed” them by offering the slaves coins. The slaves were now free to clothe, feed, and house themselves, in any way they chose. The added bonus was that the more they worked, the more coins they received, the better food, clothing, and housing they could acquire …. but, they were still slaves, only now they were slaves to the coins.

Mankind, in his fear for his survival, has always wanted to control his environment and other people. So, mankind has never known anything but slavery. People who insist that the commercial system was designed to work for everyone––if only the public servants would do their jobs and, if only there weren’t so much greed––are just being naive. Nothing is going to change the system of slavery. We cannot change anything outside ourselves without first changing our minds about what we think is outside ourselves. We must do as the original slaves (Adam and Eve), did …. realize that we are God, get up the gumption, and leave the Garden.

One slave might be smart enough to find a hole in the fence and probably escape the Garden, yet, he dare not come back and tell the others how he did so. Even if he did, the hole would already have been fixed. But, inevitably, another slave has an even more clever idea about how to get out, so he gathers all the other slaves and, for a fee, tells them how to get out. Why don’t the other slaves ask, “If you’ve found an escape, why are you still here?… talking about how to get out? …… not because you care about us, or you wouldn’t be charging us.”

Many slaves have “found” legal material which the slave-owners have deliberately left lying about so that the slaves will give their attention to that, rather than to remembering they are God and able to escape. They don’t want a repeat of Adam and Eve, so they keep them busy with other distractions: sports, shopping, school, TV, and expensive seminars on “how to escape”.

But there is no escape as long as the slaves are resisting slavery. They are putting all their energy into not being a slave and this only affirms that they are, indeed, slaves. We become what we most resist. This is all part of the big plan to keep the slaves in their heads, as opposed to affording them the time and peace of mind to look into their hearts and remember who they are. If they did, just as Adam and Eve did, they would cover their nakedness, i.e.: clothe themselves in the “frequency of love”. Slaves who have attained this high frequency are the most dangerous slaves to have around because they can awaken the other slaves.

The “seminar” slaves are not a threat to the slave-owner because these slaves are being kept busy looking for the solution outside themselves. The real threat is slaves who have risen above the level of being controlled. They even appear different which will get the attention of the others. The slave-master must expel them, just as the LORD God did with Adam and Eve. For most, being outside the garden is a daunting prospect, but for those who have realized the frequency of love, the thought of expulsion is freeing. They trust their intuition and know they will be safe.

There is no way of escape, as long as the slaves focus on papers that the slave-owner deliberately left for them to find and study. The way out is to remember who we are. See paragraph one.

Imagine kids playing Monopoly, on the living-room floor, in the evening. Dad walks by and says, “Wrap it up, kids. Bedtime!” The kids beg Dad to play with them. Dad knows that if he joins them in the game, he will become one of them, and the kids will manage, surreptitiously, to keep him in the game and bedtime will be a long way off. The instant Dad sits down and asks, “What are the rules of the game”, the kids know they have won, because he is now IN the game. But, Dad knows who he is and says, “I’m not playing; I don’t care what the rules read, or even if you are following the rules; you do what I say.” There is nothing the kids can say or do, now that Dad refuses to give them his attention, energy, time, or emotion which they required, in order to continue to play.

In several of the “checkpoint” videos, where Border Patrol stops people, I notice that those who do not cave, are ultimately told, “Our superiors feel that, uh, we got better things to do than to play this game with you, sir, so we’ve been ordered to allow you to depart the checkpoint.” What they are really saying is, “We were told to say, ‘we have to let you go, if we cannot get you to play our game with us…… sir’.” When we stop consenting to play, the game will end. Got it?

“Business” is None of My Business

Hence, I neither know nor care how the banks, government, corporations, institutions play the game of commerce. I do know that complication indicates the presence of lies because only Truth is simple. Knowing the details of their game would not benefit me…. it is their game. I do know that their accounting system requires NOTHING from me. I have more important things on which to put my time, attention, energy, and emotion. I am doing all I can to ascend to the frequency of love so that I can escape their slavery.

So, what I did to handle their desire to involve me was to tell them that I neither know nor care about how they play their game. Public servants have only 3 things to do at their places of employment: 1. provide me their goods and services; 2. manage the accounting thereof, which without the commerce game, wouldn’t be necessary, but, it is up to them to do what they do, to balance their books. This is their business, not mine. 3. Cash Confiscation. They must do their job, i.e.: get cash from me, or they will not get paid. (See paragraph two.) So, they threaten me with “disconnection of service” if I do not “pay”. This is extortion and fraud. Handing over our cash or not has nothing to do with the balancing of their books and ledgers.

Their books were balanced long before we ever received anything from them. In the case of an alleged “bank loan”, no bank would ever hand us thousands of dollars without our first having paid them. Banks are in the business of “profit”, so it is an impossibility that they would trust the slaves to take thousands from them, if they didn’t get it from us, first. So, they do, in the form of a note with a signature. The amount on the note matches, exactly, the amount on the cheque we receive. What does this tell you? It was strictly an exchange of paper. No one gained; no one lost… a perfect example of “equal consideration” which is the prime requirement of all contracts.

At the end of the day, all bank records must prove zero balance. The next morning, nothing could be outstanding or there would be serious grounds for an audit. So, when you get an alleged “loan”, ask the banker, “Will your books balance, at the end of today?” Of course! “So, where, on your books, could what you call my “indebtedness to the bank”, possibly show up?”

Years later, they say you signed papers which indicate your agreement to fork over your cash for the next 30 years. But that contract was based upon fraud, so not only is the contract invalid but also, since there is no statute of limitations on fraud, the mortgager now owes you the amount you have already paid. Tell the trustee of the public trust to write a cheque to the Name and deposit it. We (trust grantors) tell public servants what to do, but, not how to do it. If they require our authorization in order to credit the public trust, via the Name, then, we can let them know we authorize the paper which allows them to do so, but nothing more.

We know that all public accounting is handled by the exchange of paper and digital entries into a computer. That is all there is. Neither money nor cash is required; only paper and digital credit and debit. However, the insidious, prime purpose of this entire game is “Cash Confiscation”. They pretend they are here to serves us, but, their true purpose is cash confiscation.
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